Is It Unrealistic For Twinks To Want To Date Jocks...???

  • BerkleeBoy118

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    Jan 28, 2009 7:33 AM GMT
    So, I guess, by definition, I'm a "twink"

    Twink - A term often used to describe a youthful homosexual male, who is smooth-bodied, only slightly-muscular, with little or no body hair, and has a semi-athletic build. (along with many negative connotations which are really not necessarily true such as being insecure/bitchy all the time/immature etc etc etc...)

    BUT the point of my question. I like jocks. I'm not a jock, Im 145 pounds, 5'11, etc but I feel that I have alot to offer. and just because I don't have huge muscles, I tend to get ignored. constantly. The amount of messeges I send out to masculine guys on this website and many others that are marked as "read" and not replied to is rediculous....and alot of the more masculine men's profiles that I come across often say "if you're a twink or femme don't even bother contacting me" ..........it makes no sense to me. I like masculine, muscular, white dudes. BESIDES the fact that I'm mixed, and white dudes usually ignore the shit out of me because of that alone, is it completely unrealistic for me to even fathom the idea of even going on a date, or further more, be in a relationship, with a nice attractive, tan, white, masculine man? ...or do I have to start hitting the gym alot harder?
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    Jan 28, 2009 7:53 AM GMT
    I think I've said it before in a different thread. It's not necessarily true that all "jocks" are only attracted to other "jocks". Browse through the profiles and you'll see some couples that are total opposites. So don't feel discouraged or feel compelled to over do it in the gym to get someone's attention. icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 28, 2009 2:43 PM GMT


    "BESIDES the fact that I'm mixed, and white dudes usually ignore the shit out of me because of that alone, is it completely unrealistic for me to even fathom the idea of even going on a date, or further more, be in a relationship, with a nice attractive, tan, white, masculine man? ."

    I'm mixed as well, but appear white on the outside. Your above comments fit my own thoughts when I was 21. Let's see that would be 1976. Some things just take time. I was 6ft1 and 128 lbs. Ate like a horse. Begged the doc for 'roids. He said no, that age, gravity and exercise would do the job. I hit 30 and the changes started.

    He was right. So eat well, get fit in ways other than just the gym - which will get your face out there where guys can see it having fun, and let the rest take care of itself. It will.icon_wink.gif

    -Doug of meninlove
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    Jan 28, 2009 2:48 PM GMT
    Why all the categories? You choose your partners according to the amount of muscles on them? If that's right, than you can't judge anyone for not wanting you because of your "category".
    You shouldn't care about those things icon_smile.gif Besides, if these men are the type who reject people for their looks, do you really think you miss their attention?

    Things shouldn't be so superficial... it's just my opinion, of course.
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    Jan 28, 2009 2:48 PM GMT
    I thought of saying something constructive until you started talking about "white" guys. I'm so f*cking tired of the race discussion.
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    Jan 28, 2009 3:11 PM GMT
    Maybe they only like white guys, too.
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    Jan 28, 2009 3:20 PM GMT



    Heh, Berklee's just wondering if his racial background has anything to do with his luck in dating. It doesn't. the guy's just frustrated and wants to pose questions. That was just one of 'em. It's cool.
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    Jan 28, 2009 3:25 PM GMT
    In case anyone missed it, Erikk is responding to this line:

    BerkleeBoy118> is it completely unrealistic for me to even fathom the idea of even going on a date, or further more, be in a relationship, with a nice attractive, tan, white, masculine man?

    Erikk> Maybe they only like white guys, too.


    In any event, I believe that there is no accounting for taste (or lack thereof). Take care of yourself and get ready for when the right person does come along.


    Oh, and I prefer toned to "too much muscle". (:
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    Jan 28, 2009 3:39 PM GMT
    How about an athletic twink? There are a lot of jocks that are not built like brick shithouses. In volleyball, basketball, track, soccer and swimming guys are often lean and wiry not bulging with muscles.

    As Terra22 said, what many guys are attracted to is the personality as well as the looks, even guys in their late teens and early 20s.
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    Jan 28, 2009 3:49 PM GMT
    I don't think it's unrealistic. In this day and age opposites do attract so it's perfectly possible. It all depends on who you find and whether they find you attractive (or not) and what you are willing to deal with. So many things need to be accounted besides physical apprearances like mental and personality chemsitry.

    I see rather large people with flagpole skinny people, short with tall, light-skinned with dark-skinned. It's all possible.

    I'm not even white but I do find your comment a bit offensive because it could easily be switched. Look past race and you'll be a much better person for it and will probably find a better person too.

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    Jan 28, 2009 4:05 PM GMT
    if people hooked up exclusively based on looks, the world would be a lonely lonely place..... get the drift?
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    Jan 28, 2009 4:09 PM GMT
    Waaaah waaaaah waaaah. Pull up your bitch panties and gimme a break. So much complaining.
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    Jan 28, 2009 4:12 PM GMT
    Amen NJ you said it all.
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    Jan 28, 2009 4:47 PM GMT
    It's not unrealistic at all. I know plenty of "jocks" who are into twinks.
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    Jan 28, 2009 7:04 PM GMT
    Yeah it kinda is unrealistic to expect a jock to reciprocate a twink's sexual interest.

    I personally require working out and carrying some decent size to be a prerequisite, after which I'll go from there and nitpick everything I don't like about the guy.

    Think of it this way... most people like to date people who hold similar interests. A confident jock who loves being active is not likely to be into a small, frail, potentially feminine twink who is almost certainly afraid to pack on some muscle because we all know anything over a 28'' waist is morbid obesity and, besides, exercising is hard.

    The only real exception to my rule is when a guy is a bit of a cocky little shit (like kRakajak LOL!)
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    Jan 28, 2009 7:34 PM GMT
    McCann76c saidI think people are looking at this the wrong way

    if you date someone solely for their looks, only date the guy that's a jock, then he's most likely to date someone for their looks

    I mean let's be honest, how many guys do you know that bounce from one hot guy to another and whines he can never find a decent guy....because he's not LOOKING for a decent guy, he's looking for superficial things

    So stop putting "muscle jock" at the top of your list of what you are looking for...put things like "nice guy" "caring" "loving" etc and even if you aren't dating a fitness model, you will find someone worth keeping!


    I would argue that self-discipline, attention to diet, working out, and being athletic are hardly superficial. In fact, quite the contrary. It takes a special individual to march off to thhe gym rain or shine, day after day, whether they feel bad, or good. It takes a special individual to train into, through, and beyond pain. It takes a special individual to say no to the wrong foods, or to say no to laying around on the couch.

    Almost all really good athletes, like the kRakaJak's of the world (who played college baseball for four years), are extremely bright, disciplined, focused, goal-oriented, patient, folks with excellent self-esteem, and caring and giving personalities. I would HARDLY call those qualities superficial. In fact, for me personally, those are just the things that I look for in a person. The great body, or the trophies, or the work success, are resultant of the underlying personality type that makes them accomplished athletes, not the other way around. You don't have to think to deeply to figure that out.

    My body is that way by design. I use science, smarts, discipline, and time, to shape the way I look, but, it's reflective of how I view lots of things, and not the other way around. Dieting for 23 weeks, or doing three a day work outs for 18 weeks, that results in a national-level, trophy-winning body, is hardly superficial. Quite the opposite. It shows the value of discipline, a work ethic, they value of forming a plan and sticking to it. Those are EXACTLY the qualities I'd like in the folks I bring into my inner circle.

    If I see someone that won't eat, or medicates with food, without ever saying so much as one word, I've learned volumes.
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    Jan 28, 2009 7:37 PM GMT
    are we really going to have this discussion AGAIN this week?
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    Jan 28, 2009 7:42 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidare we really going to have this discussion AGAIN this week?


    Blame that on the moron who didn't search the forums before posting LOL!
  • Itopyrmuscle

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    Jan 28, 2009 7:52 PM GMT
    As a jock/weight trainer/musclehead who has a major interest in twinks. Admitedly, Im also mid 40s, so I give a bit of space to those who dont wanna date their dad. And btw, Im not actually looking to be their dad. I face the same responses that you do. Also Im multi-ehtnic, and yeah I have more of an interest in dating guys who are pretty much my opposite-- which means white and/or latin. Most of what I face is the twinks who think that I'd only talk to muscleguys. Yes, I want someone with low bodyfat, yes I want someone that I can take to the gym with me given that I work hard on my body, and I spend a lot of time at the gym, so hopefully whoever Im dating can share that with me. Yes I like the skinny boys. I admit, that Im less attracted to fems, not to say that I couldnt date one, but its generally not a match.
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    Jan 28, 2009 8:32 PM GMT
    flex89 saidYeah it kinda is unrealistic to expect a jock to reciprocate a twink's sexual interest.

    I personally require working out and carrying some decent size to be a prerequisite, after which I'll go from there and nitpick everything I don't like about the guy.

    Think of it this way... most people like to date people who hold similar interests. A confident jock who loves being active is not likely to be into a small, frail, potentially feminine twink who is almost certainly afraid to pack on some muscle because we all know anything over a 28'' waist is morbid obesity and, besides, exercising is hard.

    The only real exception to my rule is when a guy is a bit of a cocky little shit (like kRakajak LOL!)


    HA I agree 150%. Because of my sport (MMA), and how I was raised, I've always been into the whole warrior culture thing, and I'm just a regular masculine man. I don't care about the gay world/gay culture at all. All the guy's I've run into at school (when I was in school), or worked with, who fit the whole "twink" description, have always been mad girly, and just seemed to be afraid of everything, all wrapped up gay world stuff, and or wanted me to be their "big protector" and I'm just not into the whole man emulating a little high school girl thing.

    The guy I'm close with and all, he's a lot like me in the sense we view the world the same, and the same views on the whole male male relationship thing. In the training house we actually had a talk on what type of dude we'd go for if we were "gay" (we were all bored), and not one guy in the house would have gone for the "twink", so yeah like you said I think its a bit unrealistic, because the guys who behave like the little high school girls, always want men to treat them as man would a woman, and MOST guys who are "jocks" aren't looking for that.
  • HorrorHound

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    Jan 28, 2009 8:46 PM GMT
    I know on my profile, I have quoted in a section "NOT on this site to talk to little twinky types..." - THIS was never meant as a "I'm too good" comment - cause I'm not. It's a preference. I joined a site called REALJOCK in hopes of talking to other guys (big & not so huge) whom share interests in weightlifting & such. NOT all weightlifters though are "masculine" - - as I've ran into many whom look like a brick house but a purse falls out when they speak. HAHA Anyway, it's all preference dude. Though, no lie, I'm not generally aroused/turned on/attracted to smaller frail type guys. Though I'm NOT on here looking for what "turns me on". I denoted THAT on my profile cause, I get SICK of getting on this site & getting hit up by little guys whom (from looks of it) NEVER have stepped foot in a gym & only are interested in "cam2cam" or "jacking off". I personally didn't get on this site for that. But yea, I've seen some muscle guys into/with small twinkie types. hehe icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 28, 2009 8:51 PM GMT
    Sometimes it's fun to find a smaller, toned up guy because they're easy to manhandle but still put up a good fight icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 28, 2009 9:14 PM GMT
    Hee, hee, ha, ha...ROFL.
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    Jan 28, 2009 9:15 PM GMT
    According to numerous psychological studies regarding attraction, the rule "opposites attract" is completely unfounded. In fact, in most studies, people are more often attracted to people who are like them, both in personality, physical appearance, and cultural background.

    This is not to say that all people go by this as I am sure there are "jocky" or muscular type people who are interested in twinks. But mostly, people are attracted to people who look like themselves.
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    Jan 28, 2009 9:16 PM GMT
    dhop5489 saidAccording to numerous psychological studies regarding attraction, the rule "opposites attract" is completely unfounded. In fact, in most studies, people are more often attracted to people who are like them, both in personality, physical appearance, and cultural background.

    This is not to say that all people go by this as I am sure there are "jocky" or muscular type people who are interested in twinks. But mostly, people are attracted to people who look like themselves.


    Yes in terms of physical attractiveness that certainly seems to be the case if I remember my psychology courses well. In terms of personality types, in my experience opposites might attract, but similars stay together!