Your opinion of gay marriage made legal nationwide and gay marriage itself

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    Jun 28, 2015 12:39 AM GMT
    So what was your reaction when you found out that Gay marriage was made legal in all 50 States?

    I myself was somewhat excited.
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    Jun 28, 2015 12:44 AM GMT
    I went to a gay bar to celebrate, and enjoyed the bicycle ride to/from the bar more than I enjoyed being in the bar. icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 28, 2015 12:47 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidI went to a gay bar to celebrate, and enjoyed the bicycle ride to/from the bar more than I enjoyed being in the bar. icon_lol.gif


    That's what you get for going to a dive bar with out me!

    Shirtless makes it much more fun btw.....
  • Apparition

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    Jun 28, 2015 1:57 AM GMT
    I thought america crawls into the 20th century.

    But mostly i thought they should have picked a better name.

    Unborn: Roe v
    Marriage: Loving v
    Black school kids: Brown v

    They should have waited for someone more iconic

    Ferry perhaps.
  • BloodFlame

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    Jun 28, 2015 5:01 PM GMT
    I didn't believe it at first but after, I was pretty happy that now, all people no matter their orientation, will be able to marry.

    I was just fairly surprised that the U.S of all places was the first to do it considering how conservative the country is.
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    Jun 28, 2015 5:06 PM GMT
    BloodFlame said

    I was just fairly surprised that the U.S of all places was the first to do it considering how conservative the country is.



    This is not correct. The US is not the first. Several other countries did it before the US. In Canada, it has been legal since 2005. South Africa and Belgium were one of the first countries.

    Countries that allow same-sex marriages and the date on which they were first performed

    Netherlands 2001
    Belgium 2003
    Canada 2003–05 (provincially in 2003, nationally in 2005)
    Spain 2005
    South Africa 2006
    Norway 2009
    Sweden 2009
    Portugal 2010
    Iceland 2010
    Argentina 2010
    Uruguay 2013
    France 2013
    Brazil 2013
    England 2014
    Wales 2014
    Scotland 2014
    Luxembourg 2015


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    Jun 28, 2015 5:10 PM GMT
    I was pleased, but couldn't wait to read all the opinions ... and immediately did!
  • secondstartot...

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    Jun 28, 2015 5:17 PM GMT
    I got very emotional and I am not even American ... then I saw this map and realised that these are big steps but we still have so much work to do ...so many millions of people are still repressed and living in far worse conditions than being allowed to marry ....equality for some is no equality at all

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    Jun 28, 2015 5:27 PM GMT
    metta8 said
    BloodFlame said

    I was just fairly surprised that the U.S of all places was the first to do it considering how conservative the country is.



    This is not correct. The US is not the first. Several other countries did it before the US. In Canada, it has been legal since 2005. South Africa and Belgium were one of the first countries.

    Countries that allow same-sex marriages and the date on which they were first performed

    Netherlands 2001
    Belgium 2003
    Canada 2003–05 (provincially in 2003, nationally in 2005)
    Spain 2005
    South Africa 2006
    Norway 2009
    Sweden 2009
    Portugal 2010
    Iceland 2010
    Argentina 2010
    Uruguay 2013
    France 2013
    Brazil 2013
    England 2014
    Wales 2014
    Scotland 2014
    Luxembourg 2015




    your list is missing Ireland and the Pitcairn Islands ( not really a nation as such but they did legalise it last week I believe )
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    Jun 28, 2015 5:39 PM GMT
    Generally satisfied but very mixed emotions.

    I'm glad to have received some calls to wish me well, though I did complain that no one called when we got it in Florida, purposely putting them on notice. Yeah, I don't fuck around behind people's backs: I tell'm where it's at.

    I'm disappointed in others who didn't call. My mother in life would not have let this moment pass without sharing with me her joy for me. Silence from my father who has not yet dropped dead. This to me was more important than a birthday which is not as special, comes every year I'm not dead myself; this equality I wanted my whole life for as far back as I remember playing house. I never played birthday.

    So in that regard it's a moment lost while there's so much in it to be found.

    There I find myself happy and sad, this bittersweet victory. I'm so happy we got it that I could cry. I'm so sad that I've buried two of my partners unmarried to either that I can't help but to cry. I'm very happy for those younger than me who will have decades to enjoy this newly endowed human right. And I'm jealous as hell that I'm in my last decades having lived half a century without it. Immeasurable hurt tempers my joy.

    I rationalize it all away, like an incoming tide washing footprints off the sand, as a stepping stone to greater freedoms and dignities. I find not a perverted sense of comfort in the incompleteness of our struggle, but rather equanimity in having lived and in living the timeline, in understanding here where we are in celebration be it not hesitation in fighting further discrimination and in exporting our new found freedom to our brothers and sisters still worse off in the world. The hope of it makes me happy.
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    Jun 28, 2015 5:47 PM GMT
    Feel good about it. Everyone should have the same rights.
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    Jun 28, 2015 5:48 PM GMT
    BloodFlame saidI didn't believe it at first but after, I was pretty happy that now, all people no matter their orientation, will be able to marry.

    I was just fairly surprised that the U.S of all places was the first to do it considering how conservative the country is.


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    Jun 28, 2015 6:23 PM GMT
    I was astonished how quickly the local celebrations were organized. They were everywhere, and elaborate.

    I put on an HRC shirt, and my husband an Equality Florida one (we're members of both organizations). And we grabbed our HRC baseball caps and started hitting the parties. I took my iPad and posted some of the excitement here and elsewhere online as it happened, sorta like Tweeting. We were just so overwhelmed and happy. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 28, 2015 6:42 PM GMT
    theantijock saidGenerally satisfied but very mixed emotions.

    I'm glad to have received some calls to wish me well, though I did complain that no one called when we got it in Florida, purposely putting them on notice. Yeah, I don't fuck around behind people's backs: I tell'm where it's at.

    I'm disappointed in others who didn't call. My mother in life would not have let this moment pass without sharing with me her joy for me. Silence from my father who has not yet dropped dead. This to me was more important than a birthday which is not as special, comes every year I'm not dead myself; this equality I wanted my whole life for as far back as I remember playing house. I never played birthday.

    So in that regard it's a moment lost while there's so much in it to be found.

    There I find myself happy and sad, this bittersweet victory. I'm so happy we got it that I could cry. I'm so sad that I've buried two of my partners unmarried to either that I can't help but to cry. I'm very happy for those younger than me who will have decades to enjoy this newly endowed human right. And I'm jealous as hell that I'm in my last decades having lived half a century without it. Immeasurable hurt tempers my joy.

    I rationalize it all away, like an incoming tide washing footprints off the sand, as a stepping stone to greater freedoms and dignities. I find not a perverted sense of comfort in the incompleteness of our struggle, but rather equanimity in having lived and in living the timeline, in understanding here where we are in celebration be it not hesitation in fighting further discrimination and in exporting our new found freedom to our brothers and sisters still worse off in the world. The hope of it makes me happy.



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    If I may, could I use your post in a novel I'm writing? It's a love story of 2 gay men.. Please let me know if it's alright.... Sincerely, Jason.
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    Jun 28, 2015 7:59 PM GMT
    I doubt it will affect me personally and I will be interested to see how much effect it will ultimately have on the average gay man. I have a sense that most gay men are pretty satisfied with the status quo and that they are mostly in favor of gay marriage as a symbol. (I doubt gay men are going to start "saving themselves" for marriage). Most of all I'm hoping that after this weekend the media will return to reporting on more serious national and international issues.
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    Jun 28, 2015 9:33 PM GMT
    Jas0nSawy3r saidThank u for your post whoever you are... I'm in tears sitting in my room alone, for that's how deeply it, YOU touched me. icon_smile.gif

    If I may, could I use your post in a novel I'm writing? It's a love story of 2 gay men.. Please let me know if it's alright.... Sincerely, Jason.


    You're welcome and thank you for your kindness, rare to this forum, rarer still expressed towards me.

    For you to know if you are a good writer, your words must come from you, that you find your own voice and tell your own story.

    Peace, man. The honor you've expressed is rare among men.
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    Jun 28, 2015 10:17 PM GMT
    Now the only reasons we have for being unmarried are being ugly or having a repellent personality. Hooray.

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    Jun 28, 2015 10:21 PM GMT
    Ohno saidNow the only reasons we have for being unmarried are being ugly or having a repellent personality. Hooray.




    lol ;) It does give us another option that comes with legal rights that other couples received in addition to the options that we had before.

    I'm actually a little surprised at how many young straight couples there are that are having children and not getting married.
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    Jun 28, 2015 10:26 PM GMT
    metta8 said
    Ohno saidNow the only reasons we have for being unmarried are being ugly or having a repellent personality. Hooray.




    lol ;) It does give us another option that comes with legal rights that other couples received in addition to the options that we had before.

    I'm actually a little surprised at how many young straight couples there are that are having children and not getting married.


    I hope they are making wills then - dying intestate can cause all kinds of problems for unmarried couples (especially gay ones, actually)
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    Jun 28, 2015 10:37 PM GMT
    metta8 said
    Ohno saidNow the only reasons we have for being unmarried are being ugly or having a repellent personality. Hooray.




    lol ;) It does give us another option that comes with legal rights that other couples received in addition to the options that we had before.

    I'm actually a little surprised at how many young straight couples there are that are having children and not getting married.


    Yep, we still have the freedom to NOT get married too!
    I guess we need to "ask a hippie" about free love and all the other 60s stuff.

    Scalia did have a point, "And if intimacy is, one would think Freedom of Intimacy is abridged rather than expanded by marriage."

    It speaks more about his marital bliss....or lack there of.
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    Jun 28, 2015 10:39 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidI put on an HRC shirt, and my husband an Equality Florida one (we're members of both organizations).

    Art_Deco, you have not legally married your partner, despite it having been possible for you to do so. Until you do, he is not your "husband" as you keep claiming on here.

    I have always made disclaimers that we are not legally married, but call each other "husband" by choice. None of this "wife" nonsense that straights presume we gay men do. And we honor our relationship monogamously as if we were truly married, with legal Florida documents for health authority, final will, power of attorney, and so forth, that simulate married rights between us. I've often discussed online here the importance for gay partners to do the same thing.

    And whatever we call each other is none your fucking business.

    We decided not to do marriage yet while the issue was still in legal limbo, lest it later be taken away from us. Even after courts in Florida were beginning to permit it. And I've stated that online here before, too.

    As of last Friday things are now different. Yesterday and today I was previewing music I want to use at our wedding. Likely Handle, and some choral pieces sung by our friends.

    But don't worry, you won't have to listen to it. Even if you did live in Florida, as you falsely claim, you wouldn't be invited. But the invite list I'm working on does include some RJ members.
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    Jun 28, 2015 10:51 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said


    As of last Friday things are now different. Yesterday and today I was previewing music I want to use at our wedding. Likely Handle, and some choral pieces sung by our friends.




    Congratulations on your engagement! icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 28, 2015 11:06 PM GMT
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    Jas0nSawy3r saidThank u for your post whoever you are... I'm in tears sitting in my room alone, for that's how deeply it, YOU touched me. icon_smile.gif

    If I may, could I use your post in a novel I'm writing? It's a love story of 2 gay men.. Please let me know if it's alright.... Sincerely, Jason.


    You're welcome and thank you for your kindness, rare to this forum, rarer still expressed towards me.

    For you to know if you are a good writer, your words must come from you, that you find your own voice and tell your own story.

    Peace, man. The honor you've expressed is rare among men.



    Like I said in my profile, I due got a gentle side... icon_smile.gif That's why I like guys like you. I'd like it very much if we could become friends.

    Thanks for the encouragement, I will tell my story.
    The honor I have I learned from my mother.. icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 28, 2015 11:16 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco saidI put on an HRC shirt, and my husband an Equality Florida one (we're members of both organizations).

    Art_Deco, you have not legally married your partner, despite it having been possible for you to do so. Until you do, he is not your "husband" as you keep claiming on here.

    I have always made disclaimers that we are not legally married, but call each other "husband" by choice. None of this "wife" nonsense that straights presume we gay men do. And we honor our relationship monogamously as if we were truly married, with legal Florida documents for health authority, final will, power of attorney, and so forth, that simulate married rights between us. I've often discussed online here the importance for gay partners to do the same thing.

    And whatever we call each other is none your fucking business.

    We decided not to do marriage yet while the issue was still in legal limbo, lest it later be taken away from us. Even after courts in Florida were beginning to permit it. And I've stated that online here before, too.

    As of last Friday things are now different. Yesterday and today I was previewing music I want to use at our wedding. Likely Handle, and some choral pieces sung by our friends.

    But don't worry, you won't have to listen to it. Even if you did live in Florida, as you falsely claim, you wouldn't be invited. But the invite list I'm working on does include some RJ members.


    Get a grip! You're reverting to your 14 y.o. ugly girl-as-hostess persona again.
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    Jun 29, 2015 2:46 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco saidI put on an HRC shirt, and my husband an Equality Florida one (we're members of both organizations).

    Art_Deco, you have not legally married your partner, despite it having been possible for you to do so. Until you do, he is not your "husband" as you keep claiming on here.

    I have always made disclaimers that we are not legally married, but call each other "husband" by choice. None of this "wife" nonsense that straights presume we gay men do. And we honor our relationship monogamously as if we were truly married, with legal Florida documents for health authority, final will, power of attorney, and so forth, that simulate married rights between us. I've often discussed online here the importance for gay partners to do the same thing.

    And whatever we call each other is none your fucking business.

    We decided not to do marriage yet while the issue was still in legal limbo, lest it later be taken away from us. Even after courts in Florida were beginning to permit it. And I've stated that online here before, too.

    As of last Friday things are now different. Yesterday and today I was previewing music I want to use at our wedding. Likely Handle, and some choral pieces sung by our friends.

    But don't worry, you won't have to listen to it. Even if you did live in Florida, as you falsely claim, you wouldn't be invited. But the invite list I'm working on does include some RJ members.

    Handle? Is that a new rapper?