This Is How Fast America Changes Its Mind

  • metta

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    Jun 30, 2015 3:25 PM GMT
    This Is How Fast America Changes Its Mind


    http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-pace-of-social-change/
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    Jun 30, 2015 5:53 PM GMT
    If someone had asked me in 1999 I wouldn't have thought it would be in my lifetime.
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    Jun 30, 2015 5:56 PM GMT
    Indeed it does, as shown here in another context:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/obamas-approval-rating-hits-two-year-high-122853368326.html

    Not that 50% is anything worth preening over.
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    Jun 30, 2015 7:33 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidIndeed it does, as shown here in another context:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/obamas-approval-rating-hits-two-year-high-122853368326.html

    Not that 50% is anything worth preening over.


    Yet:
    Meanwhile, 55 percent of Americans approve of the way the president is handling race relations, including his response to the church shooting in Charleston, S.C., where nine people, including Pinckney, were killed by a white gunman on June 17 in what police are treating as a hate crime. Just 42 percent disapprove of how he is handling race relations, the poll found.

    How could that many NOT approve of how he handled race relations?
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    Jun 30, 2015 7:38 PM GMT
    timmm55 said
    MGINSD saidIndeed it does, as shown here in another context:

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/obamas-approval-rating-hits-two-year-high-122853368326.html

    Not that 50% is anything worth preening over.


    Yet:
    Meanwhile, 55 percent of Americans approve of the way the president is handling race relations, including his response to the church shooting in Charleston, S.C., where nine people, including Pinckney, were killed by a white gunman on June 17 in what police are treating as a hate crime. Just 42 percent disapprove of how he is handling race relations, the poll found.

    How could that many NOT approve of how he handled race relations?


    There are a lot of people that believe we should not discuss race relations. That if we don't discuss it, then there are no problems. And then you have people that say he is just being 'political' if he mentions anything about race.
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    Jun 30, 2015 7:49 PM GMT
    Actually, I think Obama did a good job addressing the Charleston shootings; so much for any aspersions. His problem, however, is that he does not address other, at least equally pressing and important problems, w/ equal dedication.
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    Jun 30, 2015 8:16 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidActually, I think Obama did a good job addressing the Charleston shootings; so much for any aspersions. His problem, however, is that he does not address other, at least equally pressing and important problems, w/ equal dedication.


    I do too. It seems to follow partisan politics at that point. Thus his 50% personal rating is actually pretty good!
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    Jun 30, 2015 8:42 PM GMT
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    MGINSD saidActually, I think Obama did a good job addressing the Charleston shootings; so much for any aspersions. His problem, however, is that he does not address other, at least equally pressing and important problems, w/ equal dedication.


    I do too. It seems to follow partisan politics at that point. Thus his 50% personal rating is actually pretty good!


    Add another one to that, although I do think he's been unnecessarily divisive in the past regarding some other incidents.
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    Jun 30, 2015 9:27 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidActually, I think Obama did a good job addressing the Charleston shootings; so much for any aspersions. His problem, however, is that he does not address other, at least equally pressing and important problems, w/ equal dedication.
    Yeah it seems that the riots that ripped through Baltimore have unfortunately been forgotten. However, Baltimore continues to suffer from a record high spree of homicides making it probably the deadliest city in the U.S.
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    Jun 30, 2015 10:24 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    MGINSD saidActually, I think Obama did a good job addressing the Charleston shootings; so much for any aspersions. His problem, however, is that he does not address other, at least equally pressing and important problems, w/ equal dedication.
    Yeah it seems that the riots that ripped through Baltimore have unfortunately been forgotten. However, Baltimore continues to suffer from a record high spree of homicides making it probably the deadliest city in the U.S.

    MUCH worse, IMHO, is the failure of the USDOJ to prosecute Michael Brown's stepfather for inciting the riots and arson in Ferguson, despite the indisputable evidence of his doing so. That failure effective encourages anyone of like mind to do the same w/ impunity. But, the statute of limitations hasn't run yet, so there's always hope Loretta Lynch will see the light ... though I'm not holding my breath.
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    Jul 01, 2015 2:46 AM GMT
    metta8 saidThis Is How Fast America Changes Its Mind


    http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-pace-of-social-change/


    I don't think the general population has changed it's mind at all. We just believe it has.

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    Jul 01, 2015 3:35 AM GMT
    desertmuscl said
    metta8 saidThis Is How Fast America Changes Its Mind


    http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-pace-of-social-change/


    I don't think the general population has changed it's mind at all. We just believe it has.

    I think you're right for the most part. Some people have changed their minds, but not many. That's why there are still so many hate groups.

    Plus, as the graph clearly shows, the only thing that made all those things happen nationwide was federal action. Otherwise we'd probably already be in another [un]civil war.