Mom of 8-Year-Old Gay Pride Marcher Responds to Critics

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    Jun 30, 2015 7:52 PM GMT

    I just lost it icon_cry.gificon_cry.gificon_cry.gificon_cry.gif



    https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/mom-of-8-year-old-gay-pride-marcher-responds-to-122869985727.html

    “He is old enough and smart enough to know he would be marching in the Pride parade in front of thousands of people and did it willingly,” she wrote. “In fact, I thought he would stop after 10 blocks of walking, but he felt so good about being dressed up and being who he is that he vogued and danced the entire two miles. We collaborated on the outfit and this is how he wanted to look today. This was his Pride today. He felt it. He loved it. He was it. These children will be our future. Embrace who they are. All they are asking for is the same love, respect, and acceptance of themselves as any child would.”



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    Jun 30, 2015 7:57 PM GMT
    lol that picture. Fierce!
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    Jun 30, 2015 8:22 PM GMT

    I dunno, first song that came to mind, Song Of Joy, The Captain and Tennille icon_cool.gif



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    Jun 30, 2015 8:50 PM GMT
    Kids are influenceable. It's prooved kids would lie if a parent or someone make them believe certain things, it's easy to control them. So maybe his mom is the kind of person with her own agenda that's been brainwashing her kid to act like that.

    Look at this other pic of this little guy supporting his football team. Look at the 'hate' and passion in his eyes towards the rivals, you can see he's really feeling it. However his behaviour is a result of a brainwash from his father, otherwise he wouldn't act that way.

    Both kids (the gay one and the little hooligan) act the way their parents taught them to.

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    A mother luring her kid to dress up on a skirt, long wig and jewlery and dance at the age of 8 in my opinion is unacceptable.
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    Jul 01, 2015 6:38 AM GMT

    The photo on FB:


    Comment from the mother:

    "I am bothered by some of the comments that say I should be ashamed of letting my son be himself at the Pride parade. I am sickened by the comments that say I am sexualizing him. In reply, I want to ask you what would you do in my shoes? In having a child like this, how would you handle it? I had to decide how I would handle it and a big part of that was asking what would do more damage to my child? Should I encourage him to express who he feels that he is and to be himself knowing that this road will be a hard and cruel one in today's society? Or, should I discourage him and tell him that he cannot be himself knowing that he will carry a great deal of grief and baggage about this throughout his life and may even grow to believe that there is something wrong with himself? It's not easy. People don't realize how hard it is to be the parent of a child like this.

    He has always been very gender fluid when it came to toys and his development. He preferred fashion dolls to action figures. I looked at both in the store and figured that the action figure was as much a doll as a Barbie, so if he wanted the one marketed to girls, that was fine with me. He also likes to play with trains, especially wooden subway trains. He never wanted to play sports and likes to draw pictures and do word searches. He goes to ballet class and loves to dance. He loves drag queens and thinks that it is fantastic that boys can play dress up and become beautiful girls, even after they grow up. He, himself, likes to play dress up in skirts and dresses, but most days he looks like any other "boy". He is a shy boy who is self-conscious about his missing teeth when he smiles and very intelligent. He doesn't like school because he gets bullied, but he does well academically. We do our best to stop the bullying and involve the LGBT services at his school. We keep him involved in the LGBT community because we believe that by speaking to other people who were like him when they were his age reinforces that he is of value and that his life as he wants to live it is okay.

    This boy was always very feminine from day one and instead of denying it or condemning it, we embraced it. We did not need to encourage it, it was always there. He just needed the love and reassurance that he has a place in this world, as does any child. The development into the sparkle loving, happy, tutu-wearing boy in this photo was very natural and gradual and age appropriate. We spoke with doctors and therapists. Not because there was anything wrong with him, but because we wanted to understand and learn and do the right things for our child. We did not force him to be this way. We did not expose him to sexuality in the way some people project. He is 8 years old and is starting to get crushes on boys. That is pretty much the extent of what he knows about sexuality. I do my job as a parent and censor things in his life that may not be appropriate. I am not perverted and letting this boy dress up how he feels he wants to dress up is not perverted. It hurts no one. If you are offended, don't look.

    He is old enough and smart enough to know he would be marching in the Pride parade in front of thousands of people and did all of it willingly. In fact, I thought he would stop after 10 blocks of walking, but he felt so good about being dressed up and being who he is that he vogued and danced the entire two miles. We collaborated on the outfit and this is how he wanted to look today. This was his Pride today. He felt it. He loved it. He was it. These children will be our future. Embrace who they are. All they are asking for is the same love, respect, and acceptance of themselves as any child would."
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    Jul 01, 2015 6:48 AM GMT
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    Jul 01, 2015 6:51 AM GMT
    At 1:08 mark, you can see Desmond dancing in Jinkx Monsoon's "Bacon Shake"

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    Jul 01, 2015 6:53 AM GMT
    ^ Great, the little guy is getting bullied and her mom dresses him in a drag and expose him for everyone to see, brilliant! icon_rolleyes.gif

    The guy wants to fit in school not fight for gay rights (not yet), there was absolutely no need for her mother to take him to that parade. And no, at 8 he's not old enough to know what marching in front of thousands in a gay parade means.

    This is common sense, no wonder the women got criticised so much. You don't need to be conservative or anti-gay to oppose to what she did.
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    Jul 01, 2015 6:59 AM GMT
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    David, that is not the case. You are twisting the story.

    I have actually heard this little boy do an interview on Feast of Fun. The boy loves this stuff. His biggest idols are drag queens. He loves dressing up. His mom is not making him do any of it.
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    Jul 01, 2015 7:06 AM GMT
    ^ Do an interview to the little hooligan I posted before and he will tell you his unconditional love for his team, how much he hates the rivals and how his favorite activity is going to the stadium. It's all the same, kids are influenced by their parents and you can tell when that happens. Why in the world would a 8 years old know about drag queens?

    Switch parents to these 2 kids and they will act the opposite: the blond one would be into dragqueens and the "gay" one into football.
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    Jul 01, 2015 8:40 AM GMT
    David666k saidKids are influenceable. It's prooved
    Save your misspellings till later in your long-ass tl;dr post and maybe people will read it and kinda agree (though your post is totally fucked up and bogus).

    That is all. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 01, 2015 12:55 PM GMT
    We saw this kid at the Pride March and he was pretty fucking awesome. After multiple corporate floats, including Wal-Mart of all things, he was a huge relief. We were watching at the corner of 5th avenue and 12th street, and the March kept stalling there. He danced through two songs and had a huge deal of support from everyone. He literally danced as if no one were watching (and he was really good, too). That was the highlight of the parade for me...seeing a kid be whatever the hell he wants to be.

    Brad Goreski posted a video on Instagram and my friends and I are in the background (we're in front of the tree). https://instagram.com/p/4e9UE6S3DK/
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    Jul 01, 2015 3:25 PM GMT
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    David666k saidKids are influenceable. It's prooved
    Save your misspellings till later in your long-ass tl;dr post and maybe people will read it and kinda agree (though your post is totally fucked up and bogus).

    Everyone knows english is not my first language, whats the use in pointing out grammar mistakes? icon_rolleyes.gif
    You sound like an old lady with nohing better to do.
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    Jul 01, 2015 5:13 PM GMT
    David666k said
    paulflexes said
    David666k saidKids are influenceable. It's prooved
    Save your misspellings till later in your long-ass tl;dr post and maybe people will read it and kinda agree (though your post is totally fucked up and bogus).

    Everyone knows english is not my first language, whats the use in pointing out grammar mistakes? icon_rolleyes.gif
    You sound like an old lady with nohing better to do.
    I'm an old man with nothing better to do.
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    Jul 01, 2015 6:48 PM GMT
    7-Year-Old Badass With Rainbow Flag Stands Up To Hate Spewing Homophobic Preacher



    http://www.thegailygrind.com/2015/07/01/7-year-old-badass-with-rainbow-flag-stands-up-to-hate-spewing-homophobic-preacher/
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    metta8 said7-Year-Old Badass With Rainbow Flag Stands Up To Hate Spewing Homophobic Preacher



    http://www.thegailygrind.com/2015/07/01/7-year-old-badass-with-rainbow-flag-stands-up-to-hate-spewing-homophobic-preacher/

    lol that little girl is awesome. I hope you can see the big difference between that girl standing for what her parents taught her is right, and the little kid dancing in a drag exposing himself to millions.
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    Jul 01, 2015 7:01 PM GMT
    ^

    Nope...don't see much of a difference at all....other than you have issues with drag. That little boy is happy and not harming anyone. icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 01, 2015 7:22 PM GMT
    ^ The little girl is standing there with a flag that to her represents "freedom" and "equalty". There is no harm in her doing that.

    The little boy on the other hand is harming himself by exposing himself to millions and then left to deal with the bullies at school.
    If this kid is really gay then he will have time to deal with such issues in the future. It's not right to make a 8 years old an active participant of a gay parade. By doing that his mother is sexualizing him and putting him in a vulnerable situation and he's too young to realize that.

    And no, I have no issues with drag. That's a lame excuse to explain why I think the way I do.
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    Jul 01, 2015 7:29 PM GMT
    ^
    That little kid is in music videos with drag queens. No one made him do that. He wanted to do that. He seems pretty happy to me.
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    Jul 01, 2015 7:34 PM GMT
    ^ You should be able to see beyond "the kid looks happy". He's freaking 8, he doesn't know what he's doing. And even if he really feels he was born in the wrong body, exposing him to millions is NEVER a proper way to deal with that.

    What if he changes his mind in the future? He grows up and realizes he's a standard straight teenage guy. He will never get over what her mother made him go through as a kid. He will carry all this shit for the rest of his life. What a shitty mother that woman is.
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    Jul 01, 2015 7:38 PM GMT
    ^
    No one has said that he is transgender.
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    Jul 01, 2015 7:40 PM GMT
    ^ Then it makes it all even worse. I'd like to know what his father thinks of the situation though I bet he's not even around.
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    Jul 01, 2015 8:13 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    David666k said

    What if he changes his mind in the future? He grows up and realizes he's a standard straight teenage guy. He will never get over what her mother made him go through as a kid. He will carry all this shit for the rest of his life. What a shitty mother that woman is.


    If he changes his mind in the future, life will go on. I promise. Basically, your overreaction to this eight year old boy's behavior is your South American machismo being threatened.

    A secure, confident person will reflect back on this memory and fondly remember his mother letting him be who he is (or was, should he change his mind later in life). There is no need for shame at all. That's just your baggage, plain and simple.


    +1

    And I'm pretty sure his father was there as well. There was a man holding some of the boy's stuff for him.
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    Jul 01, 2015 8:16 PM GMT
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    David666k said

    What if he changes his mind in the future? He grows up and realizes he's a standard straight teenage guy. He will never get over what her mother made him go through as a kid. He will carry all this shit for the rest of his life. What a shitty mother that woman is.


    If he changes his mind in the future, life will go on. I promise. Basically, your overreaction to this eight year old boy's behavior is your South American machismo being threatened.

    A secure, confident person will reflect back on this memory and fondly remember his mother letting him be who he is (or was, should he change his mind later in life). There is no need for shame at all. That's just your baggage, plain and simple.

    No, it's not as easy as saying "life will go on" and shrug it off. Bullied victims keep grudges forever. Even when they forgive their bullies they still have to fight with self esteem issues and other problems through their lives. And basically his mother made him an easy target for bullying. Let alone the fact this guy will feel terribly insecure about his own masculinity after going through all this (anyone would, specially during the teenage years).

    So don't try to justify this. This is not "South American machismo", this is common sense. I support gays, transgenders and basically everyone but I don't support what this woman is doing to her kid. And obviously for her defensive reaction Im not the only one that thinks this way (though in RJ I probably am!).
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