Beginner Body Builder Seeking Advice

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    Jul 01, 2015 4:50 AM GMT
    Hi guys,

    I'm new to the body building scene and realjock. I've always admired body building because what's more inspiring than seeing someone in peak physical condition.

    I'm looking for some advice on where to start as I've hit the wall where I'm just sick of being average. I've tried doing my research and found that a lot the available information is only only '$29.95' away...

    I was hoping some people with real life experience could teach me how to begin cutting (I assume this is the first stage). Right now my goal is to reduce my body fat percentage and hopefully become more lean, then I'll focus on adding some mass.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers!
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    Jul 01, 2015 11:01 PM GMT
    Adding muscle mass helps the cutting process. Start lifting and focus on correct form instead of how much weight you can lift. Also eat lean meats like fish and chicken, eat raw nuts/seeds, and eat lots of veggies...way more veggies than meats.

    That's just to get started. The lean meats have the protein to build muscle mass, and the added muscle mass along with the fiber-rich low-fat combination of veggies will help cut body fat.

    <-- Lost 70+ lbs between 2010 and 2011.
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    Jul 03, 2015 2:53 AM GMT
    Hey sorry for the late reply.

    I appreciate the advice icon_smile.gif I'll make sure to get my form right. I don't really have the money to afford a PT at the momenT. I assume that realjock has some videos/tutorials to guide me.

    Would increasing my cardio also be valuable or should I just stick to lifting?
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    Jul 03, 2015 8:07 AM GMT
    Lifting. You don't need cardio.

    Look for like a beginner's book, or articles, or hire a trainer. Consider this a long-term goal. Understand there's lots to learn over time. But also know that at the beginning, just do the basics, and you'll easily gain mass and strength at first.
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    Jul 03, 2015 12:52 PM GMT
    jjguy05 saidLifting. You don't need cardio.


    Total Crossfit bullshit. Sorry for the realness, but "peak physical condition" isn't bizarre ripped-out-to-here oversize muscles you didn't know existed. It's well-toned lean muscle with LOTS of "cardio," which I prefer to think of as intensive running.

    Still with me dudes? Why not go for the natural look? I'm asking seriously because for real, I totally don't get why crazy hugeness is the goal of so many people. It's added unnecessary weight that will all go South, and I don't mean to where my home is, in a few years.

    Can't wait to have my degree next year and start working in an orthopedics setting so I can be asking guys these questions face to face. Thanks for considering what I've written instead of seeing it as just hatin'.

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    Jul 03, 2015 1:50 PM GMT
    wRUSStle said
    jjguy05 saidLifting. You don't need cardio.


    Total Crossfit bullshit. Sorry for the realness, but "peak physical condition" isn't bizarre ripped-out-to-here oversize muscles you didn't know existed. It's well-toned lean muscle with LOTS of "cardio," which I prefer to think of as intensive running.


    1.
    The OP wants to get into bodybuilding. Bodybuilding isn't necessarily being freakishly huge. That's based in large part on genetics, and if he wants to use "unnatural aids", that's a decision that's waaaayyyy down the line for him. He can still stay natural.

    2. Bodybuilding simply means using whatever lifting techniques necessary to control the aesthetic outcome of your body. Muscle A might respond to heavy weights, muscle B might respond to light weights, muscle C might need a little of both, but you need to figure out what each one responds to so that you have a well-developed overall physique. It doesn't have to be "crazy hugeness", and the vast majority of guys never achieve "crazy hugeness".

    3.
    Crossfit isn't bodybuilding. Bodybuilders poke fun at crossfit, because it's not outcome-oriented. It's just exercise for the sake of exercise. Crossfit is simply moving weights, with no emphasis on the aesthetic outcome of your body. A crossfit workout combines lifting with cardio. Bodybuilding-type lifting can also incorporate cardio.

    4.
    As already noted in #3, "cardio" can be done in so many ways. Walking swiftly uphill can be fantastic cardio.

    5. Being "lean" simply means you have low bodyfat, regardless of how huge or small your muscle mass is.

    6. The OP is already pretty lean, so he should prioritze strength and muscle growth, which is why I suggested that he doesn't need cardio. He definitely won't gain size and strength if he's doing all that running you're suggesting he do.


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    Jul 05, 2015 8:25 PM GMT
    All those fine points dodge the basic point, which is YOU DON'T NEED EXTRA SIZE. It's a vacuous display of ego inadequacy (or of something else, ahem.) But whatever. I walked into this knowing I probably wouldn't get anywhere so, why am I not surprised? I'll leave the way I came in. Buh bye.
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    Jul 06, 2015 6:25 AM GMT
    wRUSStle saidAll those fine points dodge the basic point, which is YOU DON'T NEED EXTRA SIZE. It's a vacuous display of ego inadequacy (or of something else, ahem.) But whatever. I walked into this knowing I probably wouldn't get anywhere so, why am I not surprised? I'll leave the way I came in. Buh bye.


    What is 'extra' size? What does that even mean? Some people want to be as big as they can get, others are happy with a lean, toned look. Everyone has different goals and I think it is important to recognize that. Why are you acting so abrasive over a differing of opinions?
  • jjguy05

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    Jul 09, 2015 8:20 AM GMT
    Exactly. What's "extra size"?? wRUSStle's "extra size" may be someone else's "some size". I think he may have his own body issues, so he's trying to discourage someone else's aesthetic goals.
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    Jul 09, 2015 7:10 PM GMT
    wRUSStle saidAll those fine points dodge the basic point, which is YOU DON'T NEED EXTRA SIZE. It's a vacuous display of ego inadequacy (or of something else, ahem.) But whatever. I walked into this knowing I probably wouldn't get anywhere so, why am I not surprised? I'll leave the way I came in. Buh bye.

    And why is it so bad to cover some kind of inadequacy by some other way? At least, I am putting some effort into it, while you are just enjoying the genetic lottery you might have won without doing anything. It's like rich boy mocking some guy who is working his ass off to earn money. FAIL!!