San Francisco: Here's a reason not to live or visit there...

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    Jul 05, 2015 1:14 AM GMT
    California and San Francisco value the freedom of criminal illegal aliens over the life of an innocent bystander:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/san-francisco-pier-fatal-shooting-arrest/29666549/



  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 05, 2015 1:24 AM GMT
    That is pretty goddamned sad.icon_mad.gif
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    Jul 05, 2015 1:45 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidCalifornia and San Francisco value the freedom of criminal illegal aliens over the life of an innocent bystander:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/san-francisco-pier-fatal-shooting-arrest/29666549/





    I tweeted that #trumpisright sorry, he has a point. We see this DAILY here in the South West and in San Diego......
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    Jul 05, 2015 3:20 AM GMT
    When will we learn? Guns don't kill people.


    Immigrants kill people.
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    Jul 05, 2015 3:29 AM GMT
    anotherphil saidWhen will we learn? Guns don't kill people.


    Immigrants kill people.
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    Jul 05, 2015 5:27 AM GMT
    I think Detroit is the worst city to live in at the moment.
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    Jul 05, 2015 12:00 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidCalifornia and San Francisco value the freedom of criminal illegal aliens over the life of an innocent bystander:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/san-francisco-pier-fatal-shooting-arrest/29666549/





    It is not just California. It's pretty much the good ole USofA.
    America has become the dumping ground for all the world's ills and it will reap the world wind because no one is making the tough call.
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    Jul 05, 2015 4:30 PM GMT
    This isn't the first time this has happened in SF as a direct result of its "sanctuary city" status, and it won't be the last. It happened several years ago when current AG and Senate hopeful Kamela Harris was DA. She also presided over the biggest loss of evidence in the history of that DA's office, resulting in the tossing of hundreds of criminal cases. And now, having politicized the AG's office beyond recognition, she want's to be a Senator?

    Not to worry: she's a "woman of color" so all will be well. It was things like this, that occur regularly in SF, that led me to leave that city in 2003 after having lived there for 25 years and watched its steady decline.
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    Jul 05, 2015 4:32 PM GMT
    2bnaked said
    mx5guynj saidCalifornia and San Francisco value the freedom of criminal illegal aliens over the life of an innocent bystander:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/san-francisco-pier-fatal-shooting-arrest/29666549/

    I tweeted that #trumpisright sorry, he has a point. We see this DAILY here in the South West and in San Diego......


    Speaking as a fellow SDiegan, I can confirm that what 2bnaked said is true. The negative impact of illegal aliens here is MUCH worse than that portrayed in the press, let alone in politics.
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    mx5guynj saidCalifornia and San Francisco value the freedom of criminal illegal aliens over the life of an innocent bystander:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/san-francisco-pier-fatal-shooting-arrest/29666549/





    Get a life...you are nothing but a bigot.
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    Jul 05, 2015 8:15 PM GMT
    xrichx saidI think Detroit is the worst city to live in at the moment.
    No it's not, Baltimore is the worst major city to live in thanks to incompetent democratic governance, the fierce riots, and it's skyrocketing homicide rate.
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    xrichx saidI think Detroit is the worst city to live in at the moment.
    No it's not, Baltimore is the worst major city to live in thanks to incompetent democratic governance, the fierce riots, and it's skyrocketing homicide rate.

    Black lives matter, right? /s
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    xrichx said
    roadbikeRob said
    xrichx saidI think Detroit is the worst city to live in at the moment.
    No it's not, Baltimore is the worst major city to live in thanks to incompetent democratic governance, the fierce riots, and it's skyrocketing homicide rate.

    Black lives matter, right? /s
    Only the white-acting ones.
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    Jul 06, 2015 3:46 AM GMT
    MGINSD said
    2bnaked said
    mx5guynj saidCalifornia and San Francisco value the freedom of criminal illegal aliens over the life of an innocent bystander:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/san-francisco-pier-fatal-shooting-arrest/29666549/

    I tweeted that #trumpisright sorry, he has a point. We see this DAILY here in the South West and in San Diego......


    Speaking as a fellow SDiegan, I can confirm that what 2bnaked said is true. The negative impact of illegal aliens here is MUCH worse than that portrayed in the press, let alone in politics.


    Here it's the H1B gone mad.

    Am I anti-immigrant? You bet, in the quantities we're getting.
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    Jul 06, 2015 5:06 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    MGINSD said
    2bnaked said
    mx5guynj saidCalifornia and San Francisco value the freedom of criminal illegal aliens over the life of an innocent bystander:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/san-francisco-pier-fatal-shooting-arrest/29666549/

    I tweeted that #trumpisright sorry, he has a point. We see this DAILY here in the South West and in San Diego......


    Speaking as a fellow SDiegan, I can confirm that what 2bnaked said is true. The negative impact of illegal aliens here is MUCH worse than that portrayed in the press, let alone in politics.


    Here it's the H1B gone mad.

    Am I anti-immigrant? You bet, in the quantities we're getting.
    Look up the crime stats in Mexican border towns. From what I found, a large portion of the crime was committed by US citizens.
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    Jul 06, 2015 1:30 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    freedomisntfree said
    MGINSD said
    2bnaked said
    mx5guynj saidCalifornia and San Francisco value the freedom of criminal illegal aliens over the life of an innocent bystander:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/san-francisco-pier-fatal-shooting-arrest/29666549/

    I tweeted that #trumpisright sorry, he has a point. We see this DAILY here in the South West and in San Diego......


    Speaking as a fellow SDiegan, I can confirm that what 2bnaked said is true. The negative impact of illegal aliens here is MUCH worse than that portrayed in the press, let alone in politics.


    Here it's the H1B gone mad.

    Am I anti-immigrant? You bet, in the quantities we're getting.
    Look up the crime stats in Mexican border towns. From what I found, a large portion of the crime was committed by US citizens.


    I'm talking about Columbus Ohio. I didn't feel this way in LA. I've never had a problem with Mexicans. Here it's Somalis and Indians (btw, not native Americans). It's the quantities we're getting and how quickly.
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    paulflexes said
    freedomisntfree said
    MGINSD said
    2bnaked said
    mx5guynj saidCalifornia and San Francisco value the freedom of criminal illegal aliens over the life of an innocent bystander:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/san-francisco-pier-fatal-shooting-arrest/29666549/

    I tweeted that #trumpisright sorry, he has a point. We see this DAILY here in the South West and in San Diego......


    Speaking as a fellow SDiegan, I can confirm that what 2bnaked said is true. The negative impact of illegal aliens here is MUCH worse than that portrayed in the press, let alone in politics.


    Here it's the H1B gone mad.

    Am I anti-immigrant? You bet, in the quantities we're getting.
    Look up the crime stats in Mexican border towns. From what I found, a large portion of the crime was committed by US citizens.


    Some of that can be attributed to both the disgusting, juvenile behavior of young Americans in Tijuana and other border towns, as well as the Federales' known propensity for arresting Americans on trumped-up charges in hope of making a quick hundred bucks in "ransom" money.

    And, it's not just the quantity, it's the quality of immigrants that leaves much to be desired. Just ask any Minnesotan these days after the Somali influx there, sadly a problem of Minnesotans' own making. Our immigration system is broken, all right, but it was the Democrats who intentionally did so and now refuse to fix it. icon_sad.gif
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    Jul 06, 2015 4:20 PM GMT
    Facts About Immigration and the U.S. Economy

    "For the United States as a whole, immigrants’ share of total output was about 14.7 percent over 2009–2011. Note that this is actually larger than immigrants’ 13 percent share of the population."


    "There is a fairly broad consensus that the present value of the long-run net fiscal impact of unauthorized immigration, at all levels of government combined, is small but positive—meaning that immigration reduces overall budget deficits."


    http://www.epi.org/publication/immigration-facts/



    Without immigration, the U.S. economy looks like sclerotic Old Europe

    "So, population growth is good for economic growth. This seems intuitive — more people means more economic activity. And in the U.S., population growth is increasingly reliant on immigration. Sure, birth rates are higher in the U.S. than in other wealthy countries, but they are on the decline, and the Census bureau estimates that immigration will be the main driver of population growth within 30 years."

    "In other words, not only does immigration boost growth, it also combats the kind of concentration of wealth that has fueled political unrest across the developed world. Population growth doesn’t make the rich any poorer, but it does diminish the power of wealth. A million dollars is going to be a much more valuable thing to have in a country in which the population and economy are shrinking than in a country where the population and economy are growing."

    http://fortune.com/2014/03/05/without-immigration-the-u-s-economy-looks-like-sclerotic-old-europe/
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    Jul 06, 2015 5:04 PM GMT
    MGINSD said
    paulflexes said
    freedomisntfree said
    MGINSD said
    2bnaked said
    mx5guynj saidCalifornia and San Francisco value the freedom of criminal illegal aliens over the life of an innocent bystander:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/san-francisco-pier-fatal-shooting-arrest/29666549/

    I tweeted that #trumpisright sorry, he has a point. We see this DAILY here in the South West and in San Diego......


    Speaking as a fellow SDiegan, I can confirm that what 2bnaked said is true. The negative impact of illegal aliens here is MUCH worse than that portrayed in the press, let alone in politics.


    Here it's the H1B gone mad.

    Am I anti-immigrant? You bet, in the quantities we're getting.
    Look up the crime stats in Mexican border towns. From what I found, a large portion of the crime was committed by US citizens.


    Some of that can be attributed to both the disgusting, juvenile behavior of young Americans in Tijuana and other border towns, as well as the Federales' known propensity for arresting Americans on trumped-up charges in hope of making a quick hundred bucks in "ransom" money.

    And, it's not just the quantity, it's the quality of immigrants that leaves much to be desired. Just ask any Minnesotan these days after the Somali influx there, sadly a problem of Minnesotans' own making. Our immigration system is broken, all right, but it was the Democrats who intentionally did so and now refuse to fix it. icon_sad.gif


    "Just ask any Minnesotan these days after the Somali influx there, sadly a problem of Minnesotans' own making"

    Ask us too. Thanks a lot Abigail Wexner.
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    Jul 06, 2015 6:39 PM GMT
    Well if I were to believe in karma, the U.S. is due.
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    Jul 06, 2015 6:52 PM GMT
    Blame it on that bitch Lady Liberty. Did she ask for your brightest, your most heroic, your most ambitious? Nooooooo, she wants the poor, the tired, the homeless, the fucking wretched refuse.
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    Jul 06, 2015 6:59 PM GMT
    MGINSD said
    paulflexes said
    freedomisntfree said
    MGINSD said
    2bnaked said
    mx5guynj saidCalifornia and San Francisco value the freedom of criminal illegal aliens over the life of an innocent bystander:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/san-francisco-pier-fatal-shooting-arrest/29666549/

    I tweeted that #trumpisright sorry, he has a point. We see this DAILY here in the South West and in San Diego......


    Speaking as a fellow SDiegan, I can confirm that what 2bnaked said is true. The negative impact of illegal aliens here is MUCH worse than that portrayed in the press, let alone in politics.


    Here it's the H1B gone mad.

    Am I anti-immigrant? You bet, in the quantities we're getting.
    Look up the crime stats in Mexican border towns. From what I found, a large portion of the crime was committed by US citizens.


    Some of that can be attributed to both the disgusting, juvenile behavior of young Americans in Tijuana and other border towns, as well as the Federales' known propensity for arresting Americans on trumped-up charges in hope of making a quick hundred bucks in "ransom" money.

    And, it's not just the quantity, it's the quality of immigrants that leaves much to be desired. Just ask any Minnesotan these days after the Somali influx there, sadly a problem of Minnesotans' own making. Our immigration system is broken, all right, but it was the Democrats who intentionally did so and now refuse to fix it. icon_sad.gif

    I'm a Minnesotan and I interact with people in the Somali community every day, as well as the large immigrant Hmong population. As far as I can tell, they're extremely friendly. Many wear their religion on their sleeve, just like Christians.

    I think the Minnesotans you're referring to are the crusty republicans who live in fear.

    The Somalis in MN are here legally. Are you now against legal immigration as well, or is it just Somalians?icon_confused.gif
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    Jul 06, 2015 9:10 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    MGINSD said
    paulflexes said
    freedomisntfree said
    MGINSD said
    2bnaked said
    mx5guynj saidCalifornia and San Francisco value the freedom of criminal illegal aliens over the life of an innocent bystander:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/san-francisco-pier-fatal-shooting-arrest/29666549/

    I tweeted that #trumpisright sorry, he has a point. We see this DAILY here in the South West and in San Diego......


    Speaking as a fellow SDiegan, I can confirm that what 2bnaked said is true. The negative impact of illegal aliens here is MUCH worse than that portrayed in the press, let alone in politics.


    Here it's the H1B gone mad.

    Am I anti-immigrant? You bet, in the quantities we're getting.
    Look up the crime stats in Mexican border towns. From what I found, a large portion of the crime was committed by US citizens.


    Some of that can be attributed to both the disgusting, juvenile behavior of young Americans in Tijuana and other border towns, as well as the Federales' known propensity for arresting Americans on trumped-up charges in hope of making a quick hundred bucks in "ransom" money.

    And, it's not just the quantity, it's the quality of immigrants that leaves much to be desired. Just ask any Minnesotan these days after the Somali influx there, sadly a problem of Minnesotans' own making. Our immigration system is broken, all right, but it was the Democrats who intentionally did so and now refuse to fix it. icon_sad.gif

    I'm a Minnesotan and I interact with people in the Somali community every day, as well as the large immigrant Hmong population. As far as I can tell, they're extremely friendly. Many wear their religion on their sleeve, just like Christians.

    I think the Minnesotans you're referring to are the crusty republicans who live in fear.

    The Somalis in MN are here legally. Are you now against legal immigration as well, or is it just Somalians?icon_confused.gif


    "I interact with people in the Somali community every day"

    Well, great, you can have ours too.

    "The Somalis in MN are here legally"

    And true, to the best of my knowledge. Still, way too many in too short a period of time.
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 06, 2015 11:02 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidFunny how liberals are absolutely incapable of distinguishing between LEGAL immigration and ILLEGAL immigration.

    As for San Francisco - it's become so overrun with homeless and all ILLEGAL immigrants due to its "sanctuary city" status that it's one of my least favorite destinations to visit.

    That was MGINSD who couldn't seem to make that distinction.icon_rolleyes.gif