'Based Upon My Personal And Christian Beliefs': Ohio Judge C. Allen McConnell Refuses To Marry Same-Sex Couple

  • metta

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    Jul 08, 2015 6:17 PM GMT
    'Based Upon My Personal And Christian Beliefs': Ohio Judge Refuses To Marry Same-Sex Couple

    Toledo, Ohio Municipal Court Judge C. Allen McConnell on Monday refused to marry a same-sex couple. Carolyn Wilson, 51, and her partner came to the courthouse during the times posted on the court's website. When they arrived, they were told McConnell, the judge on duty, did not perform "these types of marriages."

    CONTACT INFO!!!
    Judge C. Allen McConnell (419) 245-1946

    555 N. Erie st.Toledo, Ohio 43604

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/_based_upon_my_personal_and_christian_beliefs_ohio_judge_refuses_to_marry_same_sex_couple
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 08, 2015 6:52 PM GMT
    I predict that the republicans on RJ will defend the scofflaw judge.
  • metta

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    Jul 08, 2015 7:08 PM GMT
    Video Of Kentucky Clerk Denying Same-Sex Couple Marriage License After Cops Called Goes Viral




    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/video_of_kentucky_clerk_denying_same_sex_couple_marriage_license_after_cops_called_goes_viral


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  • metta

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    Jul 08, 2015 7:09 PM GMT
    Public workers can’t refuse to issue marriage licenses

    County officials have a duty to impartially administer the law and cannot refuse issuing licenses to same-sex couples if they have religious objections, the American Civil Liberties Union said Wednesday in a letter to the state attorney general.


    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2015/07/public-workers-cant-refuse-to-issue-marriage-licenses-3/
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    Jul 08, 2015 7:40 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI predict that the republicans on RJ will defend the scofflaw judge.

    Or remain silent, or try to change the subject, or resort to ad hominem attacks.
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    Jul 08, 2015 7:44 PM GMT
    I wonder if this judge also makes rulings from the Bench "based upon my personal and Christian beliefs" rather than upon the statutes of Ohio?
  • Lincsbear

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    Jul 08, 2015 9:52 PM GMT
    This judge needs to consider whether he`s in the right job!
    I wonder what he`d say if a police officer refused to assist him when he was in need, and based the refusal on his personal beliefs?
  • KissTheSky

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    Jul 09, 2015 1:18 AM GMT
    These conservative bigots who are violating the law are being sued left and right by the ACLU. Are the small-town bigots really ready to defy the Supreme Court and think they can win? LOL.
    These people are criminals and should be fired from their jobs at the least, and I would be even happier if they could be prosecuted for their criminal behavior.
  • KissTheSky

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    Jul 09, 2015 1:19 AM GMT
    What's even sadder is that these same-sex couples have been paying taxes for years, then they get to be treated like dirt by these "Holier than Thou" conservative bigots. They should be fired tomorrow and consider themselves lucky that they don't get slapped into jail.
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    Jul 09, 2015 1:22 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    HottJoe saidI predict that the republicans on RJ will defend the scofflaw judge.

    Or remain silent, or try to change the subject, or resort to ad hominem attacks.


    LOL! That has to be the funniest thing I've seen today.

    And I saw Metta's horse thread.

    Though the video kind of kills that buzz. icon_sad.gif
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    Jul 09, 2015 1:22 AM GMT

    Judge sounds much like a defense in a defamation-libel/slander charge, "well, its my opinion that", instead of facts icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Jul 09, 2015 1:35 AM GMT
    I rang the judge's number that metta8 provided, and it rang indefinitely. No voicemail pickup.

    I was going to ask: "Does Judge McConnell also rule from the bench based on his 'personal and Christian beliefs', or does he rule based on Ohio law, and the decisions of the Courts above him?"

    I guess I'll never know. icon_sad.gif
  • KissTheSky

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    Jul 09, 2015 1:39 AM GMT
    The bigot from Kentucky has no legal ground to stand on... she was warned in writing by the state Attorney General that not doing her job due to her own "religious objections" was a crime.
    No wonder she wanted the cameras turned off.
    The ACLU is suing her. I hope they take ever last dime.
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    Jul 09, 2015 1:44 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidThe bigot from Kentucky has no legal ground to stand on... she was warned in writing by the state Attorney General that not doing her job due to her own "religious objections" was a crime.
    No wonder she wanted the cameras turned off.
    The ACLU is suing her. I hope they take every last dime.

    Unfortunately, since she was acting in an official capacity, the damages will be against the county or state, depending upon how Kentucky laws read. It's the taxpayers who will be hit by this, if a lawsuit against her is successful. She won't forfeit a dime. Even her legal expenses will be covered by the county or state.

    And then Kentucky taxpayers will grumble against "libruls" and gays. She'll be a martyr, and do even more damage to us. I have no doubt she's being carefully instructed & guided.
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    Jul 09, 2015 12:31 PM GMT
    If you have a religious objection to doing a legally-required part of your job - the solution is simple - Quit. Or, be fired for incompetence/non-performance.

    Get rid of all these "religiots" from state employment and things will be better off.

    Doctor9
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    Jul 09, 2015 2:04 PM GMT
    I love that this is happening in public so people can see what we have to go through. More and more straight people are starting to understand.
  • NursePractiti...

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    Jul 09, 2015 2:44 PM GMT
    So in all these states where this is currently being practiced, I want to break whatever laws I feel like and claim, "religious freedom" because whatever fable I follow tells me I don't have to. Like stop lights, speed limits, etc. It's amazing they are getting away with picking our pockets as usual which is theft, by taking our tax money and then cherry picking which part of the constitution, laws, etc they will obey. Then claim they are being discriminated against.
  • tazzari

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    Jul 09, 2015 5:17 PM GMT
    "Personal And Christian Beliefs" - more of the former than the latter, I suspect... The judge forgets that a lot of Christians have very different beliefs - he doesn't own Christianity.
  • tazzari

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    Jul 09, 2015 5:17 PM GMT
    woodfordr saidI love that this is happening in public so people can see what we have to go through. More and more straight people are starting to understand.


    VERY good point!
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    Jul 10, 2015 3:44 AM GMT
    Haha, I live in Toledo, and yeah, that's happening. I guess a more level-headed, people loving judge is taking all the marriages herself to bypass this idiot. As I wrote on a news comment section:

    'I mean, let's be honest. I'll gladly switch my job for that of any public official whose personal beliefs prevent them from doing their job. In a heart beat.'
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 10, 2015 4:29 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidI predict that the republicans on RJ will defend the scofflaw judge.


    That judge should be removed from the bench if she can't abide by federal law.
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    Jul 10, 2015 4:48 AM GMT
    If you can't do your job because of personal beliefs, you do the honorable thing and resign.
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    Jul 10, 2015 5:10 AM GMT
    tazzari said
    The judge forgets that a lot of Christians have very different beliefs - he doesn't own Christianity.

    +1

    Wonderful point. And what happens when a judge whose Christian beliefs DO support same-sex marriage takes his place? Does the law suddenly reverse? I thought the law was immutable, not subject to personal interpretations. Apparently in Ohio personal beliefs, especially Christian ones, trump the law.
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    Jul 10, 2015 6:12 AM GMT
    woodfordr saidI love that this is happening in public so people can see what we have to go through. More and more straight people are starting to understand.


    Agreed.

    Also, sue them all into oblivion! *menaces you with a magic wand*
  • mar0302

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    Jul 10, 2015 6:52 AM GMT
    You don't get to pick and choose which constitutional rights you adhere to.. the government needs to be independent in these matters, as do the people that work in government.. if they can't be then they need to resign.