ARE WE MORE SHALLOW THAN STRAIGHT MEN?

  • supreme_fit

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    Jul 08, 2015 8:46 PM GMT
    I am extremely observant, more than most, and this is just something I have noticed. I often see really attractive straight guy's with their average looking or downright ugly, girlfriends/wives, but u will very rarely, if at all, see a hot gay dude with an average looking or ugly boyfriend....matter of fact, alot of good looking gay guys won't even be FRIENDS with a gay guy who isn't attractive or "hook up" material. I am 1000% convinced that gay men as a whole are very shallow superficial human beings who dig our own deep graves, and we are our own worst enemies.
    why is it that good looking straight guys will date a girl who's average looking as long as she's cool, down to earth, and will give him sex? YES straight guys fantasize about the typical bombshell beauties and supermodel types; but in reality most of them will date any woman who is simple, cute, maybe a few extra pounds, and fun to be around....but MOST good looking gay guys PROMPTLY will reject any dude who doesn't fit their specific criteria, even if he's the most awesome down to earth guy in the world. is there a science behind this? what drives it?

    with all this raving about the nationwide legalization of gay marriage, what's the point? most gay MEN will never find a husband anyway. we're too shallow and looks/youth driven to be married or have real meaningful relationships. the lesbians will definitely fare better in the marriage department.
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 08, 2015 9:01 PM GMT
    Maybe gay men just have better taste.icon_rolleyes.gif
  • supreme_fit

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    Jul 08, 2015 9:03 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidMaybe gay men just have better taste.icon_rolleyes.gif


    not really a valid answer. better taste in looks, but not caring about the heart or other traits? pretty shallow if ya ask me.
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 08, 2015 9:37 PM GMT
    supreme_fit said
    HottJoe saidMaybe gay men just have better taste.icon_rolleyes.gif


    not really a valid answer. better taste in looks, but not caring about the heart or other traits? pretty shallow if ya ask me.

    So, are you going to start hitting on guys you're not attracted to? Or are you just as shallow as the supposed gay men you're complaining about?
  • supreme_fit

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    Jul 08, 2015 9:45 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    supreme_fit said
    HottJoe saidMaybe gay men just have better taste.icon_rolleyes.gif


    not really a valid answer. better taste in looks, but not caring about the heart or other traits? pretty shallow if ya ask me.

    So, are you going to start hitting on guys you're not attracted to? Or are you just as shallow as the supposed gay men you're complaining about?


    I don't suppose I'd just hit on someone I'm not attracted to. you're missing the point and evading the original question. I may not SEEK OUT men that I'm not attracted to, but if a guy who isn't super hot hits on me first, I'd at least give him a chance. sometimes attraction can develop over time spent getting to know someone. and most gay men are simply too shallow and emotionally corrupted to do that.
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 08, 2015 9:58 PM GMT
    supreme_fit said
    HottJoe said
    supreme_fit said
    HottJoe saidMaybe gay men just have better taste.icon_rolleyes.gif


    not really a valid answer. better taste in looks, but not caring about the heart or other traits? pretty shallow if ya ask me.

    So, are you going to start hitting on guys you're not attracted to? Or are you just as shallow as the supposed gay men you're complaining about?


    I don't suppose I'd just hit on someone I'm not attracted to. you're missing the point and evading the original question. I may not SEEK OUT men that I'm not attracted to, but if a guy who isn't super hot hits on me first, I'd at least give him a chance. sometimes attraction can develop over time spent getting to know someone. and most gay men are simply too shallow and emotionally corrupted to do that.

    I think you're generalizing too much. I agree that attraction can deepen over time, but to accept a date with someone you're not attracted to ends up being what's commonly referred to as a pity fuck. And that just hurts the person you're with in the long run.
  • supreme_fit

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    Jul 08, 2015 10:19 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    supreme_fit said
    HottJoe said
    supreme_fit said
    HottJoe saidMaybe gay men just have better taste.icon_rolleyes.gif


    not really a valid answer. better taste in looks, but not caring about the heart or other traits? pretty shallow if ya ask me.

    So, are you going to start hitting on guys you're not attracted to? Or are you just as shallow as the supposed gay men you're complaining about?




    I don't suppose I'd just hit on someone I'm not attracted to. you're missing the point and evading the original question. I may not SEEK OUT men that I'm not attracted to, but if a guy who isn't super hot hits on me first, I'd at least give him a chance. sometimes attraction can develop over time spent getting to know someone. and most gay men are simply too shallow and emotionally corrupted to do that.

    I think you're generalizing too much. I agree that attraction can deepen over time, but to accept a date with someone you're not attracted to ends up being what's commonly referred to as a pity fuck. And that just hurts the person you're with in the long run.


    that's exactly why you go on a real date or 2 with them, instead of PITY fucking them in the first place. you might actually become attracted to them in a way u never expected.
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    Jul 08, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
    First of all, let's be honest : when you don't know anything about someone, appearance is your only way to "evaluate" them. We all tend to prefer attractive people, that's human ! I'd add, it's a survival and primal thing. Animals do, appearance is a sign of good health, otherwise, that means it's sick, and has barerly enough energy to survive.

    I tend to agree on one of your observations : It's indeed not uncommon to see cute guys with... let's just say women "under their league". Although as a gay man, I'm obviously less objectif about women's attractiveness.
    ANYWAY, the other way around is different : beautiful women with ugly guys are very rare.

    I think there is a link with the fact women are legaly considered more vulnerable : sexual harrassment for instance is mostly men hitting on women, when there is non consensual sex, everybody tend to assume that it's the guy who tried to rape the women etc. etc.

    My point is... I guess some straight men (maybe on top of their own insecurity or whatever) feel some kind of a pressure on them because of those social stereotypes, and tend to settle for the women who come along, instead of daring approach the women they could feel attracted to at first sight. But somehow, it's for the best ! That gives chances to women who are less attractive to seduce them and reveal their good personality, sense of humor etc., all those aspects that are more important on the long term.

    Gay men on the other hand... there is no gender issue, no "asymmetry", and since we tend to regroup among ourselves : "plenty fish in the see, might as well choose the cutest ones" ! Some of us even re-live some kind of a teenagehood if they're late bloomers. Hookups are very common, AND... we can be each other exes !
    Another thing : just look at online profiles... it's easy to find profile with lots of sexy pics, but... a true and sincere message to talk about oneself, that's more rare ! When you mix all of the above, no surprise if gay men use appearance as their main matchmaking criteria !
  • buddycat

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    Jul 08, 2015 10:32 PM GMT
    No, they are just men in general. Straight men leave their wives for younger better looking women all the time if they can. Shallow is just shallow. Look at Ann Nichole Smith's husband, he was really old.
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 08, 2015 10:46 PM GMT
    You guys make it sound like it would really suck to be a straight man.icon_eek.gif

    Anyway, I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I think the original post was too generalizing and insulting. Everyone wants someone who will make them laugh, who will listen, and be there for them, share interests, etc. Attractiveness really evaporates if the personality is a poor fit. I think personality is important, but in an online environment it's much more difficult to convey personality than it is to upload selfies.
  • secondstartot...

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    Jul 08, 2015 11:55 PM GMT
    yes
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    Jul 09, 2015 12:05 AM GMT
    lol you don't need to be "extremely observant" to realize gay culture is more shallow than straight. It's obvious and the world acknowledge that.

    Sometimes it looks as if gay man are oblivious of the gay image that's projected to the outside.
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 09, 2015 12:09 AM GMT
    It's easy to say that gay men are shallow, but are straight men typically all that deep? I keep thinking of my goofball straight uncle who won't watch movies without explosions, who only cares about sports and hunting, who thinks it's okay to go war for no other reason than that you have the biggest guns. I honestly can't imagine him appreciating another person's culture. I don't think he's ever had to face adversity, or be challenged by anyone intellectually. I think if I asked him about women, he'd say he likes boobs and laugh like a troll.
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    Jul 09, 2015 12:16 AM GMT
    Yikes
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    Jul 09, 2015 12:26 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidIt's easy to say that gay men are shallow, but are straight men typically all that deep? I keep thinking of my goofball straight uncle who won't watch movies without explosions, who only cares about sports and hunting, who thinks it's okay to go war for no other reason than that you have the biggest guns. I honestly can't imagine him appreciating another person's culture. I don't think he's ever had to face adversity, or be challenged by anyone intellectually. I think if I asked him about women, he'd say he likes boobs and laugh like a troll.


    Sticking to your preferences is not being shallow. Shallowness happens when gay men put looks above everything else and most of them won't even compromise to stay in a monogamous relationship. No wonder there are so many middle age and old gay men that aare single. If gays weren't so shallow they would be able to find a compatible partner to share their lives with at any age.

    Gay men are usually very individualist in oppposite to straight men, that doesnt help either.
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    Jul 09, 2015 12:50 AM GMT
    David666k said
    HottJoe saidIt's easy to say that gay men are shallow, but are straight men typically all that deep? I keep thinking of my goofball straight uncle who won't watch movies without explosions, who only cares about sports and hunting, who thinks it's okay to go war for no other reason than that you have the biggest guns. I honestly can't imagine him appreciating another person's culture. I don't think he's ever had to face adversity, or be challenged by anyone intellectually. I think if I asked him about women, he'd say he likes boobs and laugh like a troll.


    Sticking to your preferences is not being shallow. Shallowness happens when gay men put looks above everything else and most of them won't even compromise to stay in a monogamous relationship. No wonder there are so many single middle age and old gay men. If gays weren't so shallow they would be able to find a compatible partner to share their lives with at any age.

    Gay men are usually very individualist in oppposite to straight men, that doesnt help either.

    Did I mention my aunt divorced him?icon_lol.gif
  • supreme_fit

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    Jul 09, 2015 1:14 AM GMT
    David666k said
    HottJoe saidIt's easy to say that gay men are shallow, but are straight men typically all that deep? I keep thinking of my goofball straight uncle who won't watch movies without explosions, who only cares about sports and hunting, who thinks it's okay to go war for no other reason than that you have the biggest guns. I honestly can't imagine him appreciating another person's culture. I don't think he's ever had to face adversity, or be challenged by anyone intellectually. I think if I asked him about women, he'd say he likes boobs and laugh like a troll.


    Sticking to your preferences is not being shallow. Shallowness happens when gay men put looks above everything else and most of them won't even compromise to stay in a monogamous relationship. No wonder there are so many single middle age and old gay men. If gays weren't so shallow they would be able to find a compatible partner to share their lives with at any age.

    Gay men are usually very individualist in oppposite to straight men, that doesnt help either.


    can you please elaborate on what you meant by "gay men are individualist in opposite to straight men"
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    Jul 09, 2015 1:19 AM GMT
    I'll never forget the now famous words of one of my cousins when I brought her to a pride parade: "how come they're all so ordinary looking?"

    She was expecting gym fabulous but got beer belly. I just shrugged. It all seemed pretty typical to me.

    You see more str8s doing this and you see more str8s doing that and through your phenomenal powers you've even observed that they're 9 to 1. Well, dig this: they're 9 to 1. They've got 9 times more mix-matched socks than we do, puppet. So you might notice it more on them than on us.

    If there's anything else to that, it's simply that the male of the species is pretty much always the prettier one anyway. So not only are there 9x's more of them, but you'd now have to multiply that by whatever factor of girls being uglier than boys by their vagina nature to come up with a proper equation of just how many mixed matched socks should there be gay v str8. I suspect if falls right about where it is, in the hamper of humanity.

    Which guy could have done better, the guy on the right or the guy on the left?
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    What about 40 years from now?
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    This guy settle for an overweight man of color
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    Look! This guy settle for a pudgy, mouth breather
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    Sexually dimorphic gay couple
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    Look! two bottoms having a baby
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    Which one's the lesbian?
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    So shallow.
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    Jul 09, 2015 1:30 AM GMT
    ^ Albinos. The world is full of albinos. They're everywhere. Look at them.
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    Posting random pics on the internet, the best way to prove your point.

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  • supreme_fit

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    Jul 09, 2015 3:16 AM GMT
    theantijock saidI'll never forget the now famous words of one of my cousins when I brought her to a pride parade: "how come they're all so ordinary looking?"

    She was expecting gym fabulous but got beer belly. I just shrugged. It all seemed pretty typical to me.

    You see more str8s doing this and you see more str8s doing that and through your phenomenal powers you've even observed that they're 9 to 1. Well, dig this: they're 9 to 1. They've got 9 times more mix-matched socks than we do, puppet. So you might notice it more on them than on us.

    If there's anything else to that, it's simply that the male of the species is pretty much always the prettier one anyway. So not only are there 9x's more of them, but you'd now have to multiply that by whatever factor of girls being uglier than boys by their vagina nature to come up with a proper equation of just how many mixed matched socks should there be gay v str8. I suspect if falls right about where it is, in the hamper of humanity.

    Which guy could have done better, the guy on the right or the guy on the left?
    Bob+and+John.png

    What about 40 years from now?
    gay_couple_N2.jpg

    This guy settle for an overweight man of color
    Gay%20Couple.jpg

    Look! This guy settle for a pudgy, mouth breather
    709779-happy-gay-couples.jpg

    Sexually dimorphic gay couple
    ht_fredy_kaplan_anthony_cipiano_lottery_

    Look! two bottoms having a baby
    gayparentsx.jpg

    Which one's the lesbian?
    25326943.cms

    So shallow.


    you sir, win at life. how long did it take you to find, download, and post all of those random pics? I'd swear someone actually paid you for the effort.
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    HottJoe saidIt's easy to say that gay men are shallow, but are straight men typically all that deep? I keep thinking of my goofball straight uncle who won't watch movies without explosions, who only cares about sports and hunting, who thinks it's okay to go war for no other reason than that you have the biggest guns. I honestly can't imagine him appreciating another person's culture. I don't think he's ever had to face adversity, or be challenged by anyone intellectually. I think if I asked him about women, he'd say he likes boobs and laugh like a troll.


    Sticking to your preferences is not being shallow. Shallowness happens when gay men put looks above everything else and most of them won't even compromise to stay in a monogamous relationship. No wonder there are so many single middle age and old gay men. If gays weren't so shallow they would be able to find a compatible partner to share their lives with at any age.

    Gay men are usually very individualist in oppposite to straight men, that doesnt help either.


    can you please elaborate on what you meant by "gay men are individualist in opposite to straight men"


    Usually gay men only have to look after themselves so they spend their money in whatever they're into, clothes, trips, you name it.

    Straight guys usually get hitched and by 30 their priorities change, they are in charge of something other than themselves. No wonder they start growing a belly and let themselves go in oposite to gays that spend money and time for decades on the way they look - because of the shallow world they live in.

  • supreme_fit

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    Jul 09, 2015 5:58 AM GMT
    David666k said
    supreme_fit said
    David666k said
    HottJoe saidIt's easy to say that gay men are shallow, but are straight men typically all that deep? I keep thinking of my goofball straight uncle who won't watch movies without explosions, who only cares about sports and hunting, who thinks it's okay to go war for no other reason than that you have the biggest guns. I honestly can't imagine him appreciating another person's culture. I don't think he's ever had to face adversity, or be challenged by anyone intellectually. I think if I asked him about women, he'd say he likes boobs and laugh like a troll.


    Sticking to your preferences is not being shallow. Shallowness happens when gay men put looks above everything else and most of them won't even compromise to stay in a monogamous relationship. No wonder there are so many single middle age and old gay men. If gays weren't so shallow they would be able to find a compatible partner to share their lives with at any age.

    Gay men are usually very individualist in oppposite to straight men, that doesnt help either.


    can you please elaborate on what you meant by "gay men are individualist in opposite to straight men"


    Usually gay men only have to look after themselves so they spend their money in whatever they're into, clothes, trips, you name it.

    Straight guys usually get hitched and by 30 their priorities change, they are in charge of something other than themselves. No wonder they start growing a belly and let themselves go in oposite to gays that spend money and time for decades on the way they look - because of the shallow world they live in.



    NOW who's generalizing?? hehehe. I do see what you're saying. however, I've seen some really attractive older, but fit and trim straight men with their wives and teenaged/college aged kids, and I've seen some really homely or out shape and beer gut toting gay male couples. LOL!
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    Jul 09, 2015 6:23 AM GMT
    it's completely shallow and ignorant to put everyone in the same category and then compare it to another category of people who are within completely different from each other
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    Jul 09, 2015 8:25 AM GMT
    @ MuchMoreThanMuscle : gay men don't talk durty like the straigt men you described... they act ^^'
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    Jul 09, 2015 1:19 PM GMT
    pazkilimanjaro saidand another thing too. half of you gay guys NEED to stop fishing for compliments and validation then fronting like ya'll are the shit. it's like give me a break, breh. never understood why dudes are gonna turn around acting like they're all that ready to have their nose in their air like.. "i'm better than you. don't look @ me" BUT turn around begging for someone to tell them they look cute and etc. if you the man and believe you're the man, then stop asking for someone to tell you that shit. shit is mad lame.


    Preach it brother!