Sex without drugs/alcohol

  • Wendigo9

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    Jul 09, 2015 3:26 PM GMT
    How many of you hookup with a guy, only to get drunk/high before getting it on? Just a question of how interested a guy really is in you.
  • ThatSwimmerGu...

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    Jul 09, 2015 3:27 PM GMT
    I have never had sex drunk or high. If you're not sober it's not consent.
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    Jul 09, 2015 4:21 PM GMT
    I have never hooked up being drunk or high , or hooked up with someone , who was not in a condition to figure our what is going on around him .
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    Jul 09, 2015 5:46 PM GMT
    its a Bill Crosby thing.
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    Jul 09, 2015 7:04 PM GMT
    We be all night LUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!
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    Jul 09, 2015 7:13 PM GMT
    What a turn off. I cant fuck while drunk and cocain makes your dick soft or almost imposible to cum. Drugs suck, specially during sex.
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    Jul 09, 2015 7:28 PM GMT
    ThatSwimmerGuy93 saidI have never had sex drunk or high. If you're not sober it's not consent.


    That's taking it a bit far. If someone has a couple of drinks, and is not 'sober', they are still capable of consent.

    Consent is based on choice.
    Consent is active not passive.
    Consent is possible only when there is equal power.
    Giving in because of fear is not consent.
    Going along with something because of fear is not consent.
    Going along with something because of wanting to fit in with the group,
    being deceived or feeling bad is not consent.
    I especially like this If you cannot say no comfortably then yes has no meaning.
    If you are unwilling to accept a no then yes has no meaning.

    ~ Source Unknown

    I prefer afternoon sex, no booze, definitely no drugs.

    Many people use drugs and booze to diminish their inhibitions.....intentional self medication. But it doesn't mean they are open season to any pervert, or are incapable of consent.

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    Jul 09, 2015 9:12 PM GMT
    I'm usually sober when I hookup, cause it usually requires driving somewhere. If it's cycling distance, then I'll probably be half drunk cause I like to get a nice buzz and ride BMX. icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 09, 2015 9:15 PM GMT
    I've "done" it... but i don't "do" it routinely.

    College it happened more frequently, and once or twice since (OK... 3 times) there's been a doobie shared.

    It's never been a "let's get high and when you can't say no I'm gonna do ya" thing... sex was definitely in the plan, so everything would have been consensual...

    It's not a requirement... in fact in the past few years, with my and my guy subject to random testing at work, there's never been a need for it.
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    Jul 09, 2015 9:19 PM GMT
    JonSpringon saidI've "done" it... but i don't "do" it routinely.

    College it happened more frequently, and once or twice since (OK... 3 times) there's been a doobie shared.

    It's never been a "let's get high and when you can't say no I'm gonna do ya" thing... sex was definitely in the plan, so everything would have been consensual...

    It's not a requirement... in fact in the past few years, with my and my guy subject to random testing at work, there's never been a need for it.
    Right? That random testing shit is a bitch. I'd love to smoke doobies every day like I used to, but it's just hard to afford it when you ain't gots no job. icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 09, 2015 9:50 PM GMT
    I never try to have sex after becoming a bit tipsy on alcohol. And I've never used nor been high on any recreational drugs in my life.

    The problem with alcohol is that it impairs sexual performance. Difficult to get it up, and never as hard or lasting as when sober. I always want to be at my best! icon_wink.gif

    There were a couple of times I allowed myself a few drinks too many, and bedroom disaster with a guy ensued. Sure taught ME a lesson! icon_redface.gif

    No, as far as I'm concerned, sex, drugs & alcohol don't mix well. When I was single and on the prowl at bars I carefully tempered my drinking, and tapered-off to cola when I thought I'd found a prospective trick.

    In social situations a little alcohol can break my natural shyness, but too much alcohol breaks my dick. icon_sad.gif
  • PRDGUY

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    Jul 09, 2015 9:57 PM GMT
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    JonSpringon saidI've "done" it... but i don't "do" it routinely.

    College it happened more frequently, and once or twice since (OK... 3 times) there's been a doobie shared.

    It's never been a "let's get high and when you can't say no I'm gonna do ya" thing... sex was definitely in the plan, so everything would have been consensual...

    It's not a requirement... in fact in the past few years, with my and my guy subject to random testing at work, there's never been a need for it.
    Right? That random testing shit is a bitch. I'd love to smoke doobies every day like I used to, but it's just hard to afford it when you ain't gots no job. icon_lol.gif


    I've had sex sober and while high.... but yeah those random drug drug test suck- tested positive once but demanded a retest which came out clean. Thank you Body Cleanse!
  • Unnamed6

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    Jul 09, 2015 10:00 PM GMT
    Wendigo9 saidHow many of you hookup with a guy, only to get drunk/high before getting it on? Just a question of how interested a guy really is in you.


    Flattery and seduction has a similar effect of lowering one's guard and inhibitions to a degree that may be far too engrossing, persistent and overwhelming for a recipient of such things, that I believe this to be worse than drugs.
  • Unnamed6

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    Jul 09, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
    pellaz saidits a Bill Crosby thing.
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    I have the suspicion that some of the women (note, not all) who have accused Cosby of rape could have had willing sex with him just on account of his fame, image and money. I don't think Cosby would have needed to drug, abuse the trust, or even seduce in some way any of the victims. The rapes likely occurred for other reasons and not from the lack of opportunity for sex. He may have had sexual issues, or if he didn't, he may have wanted a kind of high, and a kind of heightened sexual experience, that only the illegal nature of his sex acts gave him. In his own way, he may have found a way to have sex in spite of erectile dysfunction, or somehow resolve it. Or as a hedonist with sexual capacity, he may have found a way not to be bored any longer...
  • Wendigo9

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    Jul 10, 2015 1:14 AM GMT
    I ask 'cause a few guys try that trick with me, not sure if they're calling me ugly or young and naive. If that's their way of playing it smooth, I call it sly and stupid.
  • rnch

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    Jul 10, 2015 4:07 PM GMT
    It depends on your definition of "drunk".

    One or two adult beverages often helps to relax one/both of ya'll.

    Stumbling, slurring, almost passing out drunk ruins the experience for me.
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    Jul 10, 2015 5:36 PM GMT
    When younger it's better to drink before you go out so that everyone else looks better.

    When older it's better to wait for everyone else to get drunk first before heading out, so you look better.


    And you want to travel with him
    And you want to travel blind
    And you think maybe you'll trust him
    For he's touched your perfect body with his mind.
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    Jul 11, 2015 8:58 PM GMT
    rnch saidIt depends on your definition of "drunk".

    One or two adult beverages often helps to relax one/both of ya'll.

    Stumbling, slurring, almost passing out drunk ruins the experience for me.


    Because they are so pretty that way! I'd just as well do necrophilia.
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    Jul 13, 2015 9:37 PM GMT
    Wasn't there a book ("Don't Ask Alice?") or movie where some slutty alcoholic likened her first sober sex to virginity?
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    Jul 13, 2015 9:40 PM GMT
    I don't think I have ever thought of this. Since I rarely drink and don't do drugs I rarely have sex under the influence.
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    Jul 13, 2015 10:31 PM GMT
    TomSOCAL said
    ThatSwimmerGuy93 saidI have never had sex drunk or high. If you're not sober it's not consent.


    You probably don't have a meth problem in Kansas, so guys can be trusted about their status Can't trust gay guys in Phoenix, and palm springs since every gay guy is on meth or coke or pot. They see that us outsiders are too smart for their addicted ways, their lives are centered around meth and unprotected casual sex. They need help and sex ed which they will never get from the republicans who run the schools in riverside and Maricopa counties. Phoenix way different than L.A.

    We, are sick and tired of the social and relationship culture centered around the abundance of cheap meth along with the property crimes. You have to go to Durango, Colorado to escape the meth madness.


    Could you be more ridiculous? Meth is everywhere.

    Drug use increasing in county

    “America has a drug problem,” said Sheriff Vernon Chinn, “and Kansas is in the heart of America.”

    Pratt County had its first drug arrest in 1970, Chinn said. In 2009, there were 61 cases, with 120 charges; by 2014, the number of cases had nearly doubled to 119 and the number of charges increased from two per case to more than four.

    http://www.pratttribune.com/article/20150627/NEWS/150629656


    The Meth Capital of the World
    Where is it?

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/press_box/2005/08/the_meth_capital_of_the_world.2.html

    You remind me of a conversation I saw online. A woman was saying she'd only date Asian men because they were, statistically, less likely to have HIV.

    It's in the company you keep. If it was an Asian gang IV meth drug user, sharing needles, in LA.....being Asian isn't going to help.

    "On Pot"? Is this 1955 and "Refer Madness"? Pot is LEGAL in CA and several other states. Prices have dropped and the Mexican cartels are getting out of it, because there is too much legal competition!

    I can't even begin to wonder what your definition of "unprotected casual sex."
    But here is the CDC's take on it: Why the CDC Stopped Calling Sex Without a Condom ‘Unprotected Sex’

    http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2014/02/24/cdc-stopped-calling-sex-without-condom-unprotected-sex/

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    Jul 13, 2015 10:55 PM GMT
    Getting a glass of wine is fine to relax, maybe a bit more but that's it!
    As far as drugs, that's just full retard mode, if you have a brain and your not some looser you'll love yourself and life enough to not be interested in escaping to a pathetic imaginary world xD plus fu**** up face as result and all sorts of stds with it is not a pretty result
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    Jul 15, 2015 12:27 PM GMT
    There used to be a sign next to the cash register behind the bar of the Minneapolis Eagle gay bar:

    Drink Till He's Cute

    Which illustrates just one of the problems with letting yourself get drunk before doing a bar or party pick-up: he might look awfully ugly in the morning. Others are:

    - You wake up to an empty hotel room and a missing wallet.
    - You can't get it up and make a fool of yourself
    - You're too impaired to drive your car.
    - He's not as drunk as you are, finds you disgustingly stinking and dumps you out of bed.
    - You lose your better judgement to use a condom.

    Among the problems with getting HIM drunk are:

    - You may face legal issues if he later says it wasn't consensual.
    - He may have all the enthusiasm in bed of an inflatable doll, even pass out.
    - Get sick on you.
    - Become belligerent and want to start a fight with you,

    When I have sex I want to perform well, enjoy it, and remember it. Too much alcohol can spoil all 3. I don't do recreational drugs, nor have the guys I've dated or tricked. But I imagine some of the same problems would apply.
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    Jul 15, 2015 12:47 PM GMT
    At my age, I've been through it all. When you're in your 20's you can have sex with a BF in all kinds of states after being out partying. I've always been more of a one on one type of guy, so I've always felt relaxed with a BF vs. a hookup.
    I can still preform fine on wine or alcohol but only if we're talking about coming home from a dinner or a friend's house.
    Drugs of all kinds are a thing of the past since most jobs will random drug test you. If you get hurt at work... mandatory drug and alcohol screening.
    The only thing that will hold my erection back is an antihistamine with the D in it. That shrinks ALL your blood vessels. It's the weirdest wood you'll ever see..........!
    These days, if I were single, I'd prefer to be stone cold sober since it's what I've been used to for so long.
    That said, I can still enjoy it in most states of mind.

    Just enjoy it with someone you totally trust.
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    Jul 15, 2015 1:08 PM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor said
    The only thing that will hold my erection back is an antihistamine with the D in it. That shrinks ALL your blood vessels. It's the weirdest wood you'll ever see..........!

    I have a problem with decongestants for my sinusitis, will shrink me. So I just don't take them if I anticipate a sexual encounter, and they're only periodic as needed anyway.

    The other thing that used to ruin my performance was anti-depressants. The VA started automatically giving them to me when I got my epilepsy diagnosis, even though I didn't have any symptoms of depression. I stopped those right away when I saw their side effects.

    But I've read that lots of gay men take them. And when I first came out in Seattle about half the guys I went to bed with couldn't get very hard. Some younger than me, but I was hard as steel (making me popular, needless to say), causing me to wonder what their problem was. It wasn't until later I learned of this possible link.