FBI Background Check 'Mistake' Allowed Charleston Shooter To Illegally Buy Gun

  • metta

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    Jul 10, 2015 6:57 PM GMT
    FBI Background Check 'Mistake' Allowed Charleston Shooter To Illegally Buy Gun


    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/fbi_background_check_mistake_allowed_charleston_shooter_to_buy_gun
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    Jul 11, 2015 2:25 PM GMT
    Why is it that there have been, at all levels and in every major department of government, so many screwups under Obama? Time was when presidents took responsibility for such things. That time isn't now.
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    Jul 11, 2015 2:38 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidWhy is it that there have been, at all levels and in every major department of government, so many screwups under Obama? Time was when presidents took responsibility for such things. That time isn't now.


    Not to mention - guns are easily stolen, purchased on the street, through straw buy, etc.

    Background check makes it more difficult to purchase, but won't stop someone who's really determined.
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    MGINSD saidWhy is it that there have been, at all levels and in every major department of government, so many screwups under Obama? Time was when presidents took responsibility for such things. That time isn't now.


    Not to mention - guns are easily stolen, purchased on the street, through straw buy, etc.

    Background check makes it more difficult to purchase, but won't stop someone who's really determined.


    True enough, but that doesn't mean we quit trying.
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    Jul 11, 2015 6:39 PM GMT
    ATLANTA — President Obama pushed Americans to call for stricter gun controls in the wake of the June 17 Charleston church massacre, complaining that the admitted killer, Dylann Roof, “had no trouble getting his hands on a gun.”

    What the President likely didn’t know when he made those comments is this: It wasn’t a lack of gun controls, but a bureaucratic failure, that led to Roof obtaining the gun legally, due, it turns out, on a senior FBI document examiner’s unfamiliarity with South Carolina geography.

    Your tax dollars at work - again.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2015/0711/How-FBI-s-Dylann-Roof-gun-snafu-hurts-Obama-s-gun-control-agenda
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    Jul 12, 2015 11:31 AM GMT
    So many screw ups under Obama? Oh yes, the Bush's were such wonderful presidents! Not one screw up and always took responsibility. NOT!
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    Jul 12, 2015 2:14 PM GMT
    desertmuscl said ATLANTA — President Obama pushed Americans to call for stricter gun controls in the wake of the June 17 Charleston church massacre, complaining that the admitted killer, Dylann Roof, “had no trouble getting his hands on a gun.”

    What the President likely didn’t know when he made those comments is this: It wasn’t a lack of gun controls, but a bureaucratic failure, that led to Roof obtaining the gun legally, due, it turns out, on a senior FBI document examiner’s unfamiliarity with South Carolina geography.

    Your tax dollars at work - again.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2015/0711/How-FBI-s-Dylann-Roof-gun-snafu-hurts-Obama-s-gun-control-agenda
    I thought that Dylann Roof used the gun given to him by his father as a birthday gift to murder these innocent black churchgoers.icon_question.gif
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    Jul 12, 2015 3:50 PM GMT
    nursemuscle saidSo many screw ups under Obama? Oh yes, the Bush's were such wonderful presidents! Not one screw up and always took responsibility. NOT!

    Bush # 1 -

    Savings and Loan debacle. Bailout cost: $500 B (nearly a trillion today)

    First Gulf War. Failed to take out Saddam Hussein, pulled back our troops when we were winning, because Saudi Arabia ordered him to stop the war.

    Failing economy That President Bill Clinton subsequently restored.

    Bush # 2 -

    9/11

    Contrived war with Iraq Killed more US military than the civilians we lost in 9/11, and over 100,000 Iraqi civilians, for no purpose. Plus about a trillion dollars in expenses (at least Halliburton did well).

    Mortgage & property value meltdown

    Greatest recession since the 1930s Depression

    Highest unemployment since the Great Depression Some of it spilled over into the Obama Administration, which Republicans tried to blame on him. (Along with some RJ plants here)

    Botched Hurricane Katrina response

    And now there's a Bush # 3 who wants to occupy the White House? REALLY???
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    southbeach1500 said
    Except... The left painted Bush as a total dummy, and Obama as the world's foremost genius. So based on what the left has said re: Obama, it is "shocking" to see the number of Obama screw-ups. Not at all what was "advertised." icon_razz.gif

    Except... President Obama is a Nobel Peace Prize winner. The first time a US President has received that honor since Teddy Roosevelt, over 100 years ago. Our US President is a Nobel Laureate.

    Your defense of the mentally-challenged, and inarticulate GW Bush doesn't work. Try another approach.
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    nursemuscle saidSo many screw ups under Obama? Oh yes, the Bush's were such wonderful presidents! Not one screw up and always took responsibility. NOT!

    Bush # 1 -

    Savings and Loan debacle. Bailout cost: $500 B (nearly a trillion today)

    First Gulf War. Failed to take out Saddam Hussein, pulled back our troops when we were winning, because Saudi Arabia ordered him to stop the war.

    Failing economy That President Bill Clinton subsequently restored.

    Bush # 2 -

    9/11

    Contrived war with Iraq Killed more US military than the civilians we lost in 9/11, and over 100,000 Iraqi civilians, for no purpose. Plus about a trillion dollars in expenses (at least Halliburton did well).

    Mortgage & property value meltdown

    Greatest recession since the 1930s Depression

    Highest unemployment since the Great Depression Some of it spilled over into the Obama Administration, which Republicans tried to blame on him. (Along with some RJ plants here)

    Botched Hurricane Katrina response

    And now there's a Bush # 3 who wants to occupy the White House? REALLY???


    "Failing economy That President Bill Clinton subsequently restored."

    Afetr mild six month recession, economy had been in recovery for 18 months prior to the 92 election. Bush 41 handed an economy well on the way to recovery to Clinton 43 in January 93

    http://ieconomics.com/united-states-gdp-growth-rate-george-hw-bush


    "Greatest recession since the 1930s Depression"

    Since 1980. Plus Reagan had to deal with double digit inflation and 18% interest rates. Unemployment rate was higher than most recent downturn

    "Mortgage & property value meltdown"

    Bush 43 tried to do something about this to 'reign in Raines' and was defeated mostly due to the CBC in 2003.

    "Contrived war with Iraq"







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    Jul 12, 2015 4:51 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco said
    southbeach1500 said
    Except... The left painted Bush as a total dummy, and Obama as the world's foremost genius. So based on what the left has said re: Obama, it is "shocking" to see the number of Obama screw-ups. Not at all what was "advertised." icon_razz.gif

    Except... President Obama is a Nobel Peace Prize winner. The first time a US President has received that honor since Teddy Roosevelt, over 100 years ago. Our US President is a Nobel Laureate.

    Your defense of the mentally-challenged, and inarticulate GW Bush doesn't work. Try another approach.


    Exactly my point. The person I was responding to brought up the usual "well, Bush was just as bad or worse" ruse.

    I pointed out that the leftists have portrayed Bush as a dummy, so naturally the left would expect screw-ups under Bush.

    The leftists have told us that Obama is a genius. And as you mention, they even gave him a Nobel Peace Prize for doing absolutely nothing.

    A genius does not screw up nearly as much as Obama has.

    Emperor Obama has no clothes.



    And regarding the most recent downturn, Bush 43 attempted a significant regulatory overhaul in 2003 to reign in abuses that became a significant cause of the 2008 financial crisis, and was defeated, mostly because of the CBC.

    Not saying that the downturn wouldn't have happened at some point for some reason anyway. We'll always have business cycles and they seem to average 12 - 14 peak to peak and trough to trough.

    If I had to blame the downturn on only a couple of factors (there were many more) I would pick CRA, passed in 1977 and repeal of Glass Steagall in 1999
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    Jul 12, 2015 5:43 PM GMT
    desertmuscl said ATLANTA — President Obama pushed Americans to call for stricter gun controls in the wake of the June 17 Charleston church massacre, complaining that the admitted killer, Dylann Roof, “had no trouble getting his hands on a gun.”

    What the President likely didn’t know when he made those comments is this: It wasn’t a lack of gun controls, but a bureaucratic failure, that led to Roof obtaining the gun legally, due, it turns out, on a senior FBI document examiner’s unfamiliarity with South Carolina geography.

    Your tax dollars at work - again.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2015/0711/How-FBI-s-Dylann-Roof-gun-snafu-hurts-Obama-s-gun-control-agenda


    The thing that concerns me about is under Obama the dishonesty incompetence, abuses of authority, and neglect of duty in the ENTIRE federal bureaucracy has become an almost daily issue. It's all boiling down to the point of there being no one in it except people who know they can't be fired for anything without two years of red tape, will received paychecks and ungodly compensations if they are fired - so they just show up for work to draw a check and squeeze by doing as little a humanly possible.

    Examples?

    The US Transportation Safety Administration
    is more incompetent than airport screening in Senegal or Malta.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielreed/2015/06/08/the-tsas-95-failure-rate-be-carefull-what-you-ask-for-when-demanding-that-congress-do-something/?&_suid=1436719422623003275855188257992

    Veterans Administration....
    Since 2008 the VA has gone from 279000 employees to over 400000 in 2015. That is one VA employee for every 4.5 living US veterans... and they still cannot perform simple tasks like answer all their daily calls or provide reasonable care for veterans... But they want more money and employees...

    In the meantime... they give employees unbelievable bonuses even when suspended... $400 million in 2014.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2015/05/24/the-va-scandal-one-year-later/?&_suid=143672138973204603617466054857
    Don't forget the VA administrator who was paid $288,000 to move 140 miles from DC to take over the phone call center in Philadelphia ... 2011, she received a bonus of more than $23,000 even though patient backlogs — one area Rubens was in charge of managing — increased by 300,000. Rubens received more than $97,000 in bonuses between 2007 and 2011 even though the average time to process veterans’ claims doubled to 325 days on her watch. The ratio of backlogged cases nearly doubled as well, from 37 percent in 2009 to 71 percent in 2013.
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/25/va-hospital-director-paid-288k-in-relocation-payments-to-move-140-miles/#ixzz3fhOnqtME Also in the move she received a raise THREE grades above her job description.

    The Secret Service charging Columbian whores on govt charge cards... Of the 13 Secret Service employees suspected of soliciting prostitutes, three employees returned to duty, six retired and four had their security clearances revoked or removed, NONE WERE FIRED.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/17/secret-service-prostitutes-dennis-hof-american-hookers_n_1432210.html

    IRS Deliberately Cuts Its Customer Service Budget And Transfers MILLIONS To Employee Bonuses
    http://woundedamericanwarrior.com/report-irs-deliberately-cuts-its-customer-service-budget-and-transfers-money-to-employee-bonuses/....

    Need I go on?

    Lois Lerner and her buddies at the IRS lying to Congress about lost emails.
    Government Charge cards being abused into the millions and no one is fired
    [url]http://www.cnbc.com/2014/05/06/widespread-abuse-of-government-charge-cards.html
    [/url]

    So Obama starts talking about stricter gun control rather than fired incompetent federal employees...

    Go figure.
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    Jul 12, 2015 9:41 PM GMT
    bobbobbob said
    desertmuscl said ATLANTA — President Obama pushed Americans to call for stricter gun controls in the wake of the June 17 Charleston church massacre, complaining that the admitted killer, Dylann Roof, “had no trouble getting his hands on a gun.”

    What the President likely didn’t know when he made those comments is this: It wasn’t a lack of gun controls, but a bureaucratic failure, that led to Roof obtaining the gun legally, due, it turns out, on a senior FBI document examiner’s unfamiliarity with South Carolina geography.

    Your tax dollars at work - again.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2015/0711/How-FBI-s-Dylann-Roof-gun-snafu-hurts-Obama-s-gun-control-agenda


    The thing that concerns me about is under Obama the dishonesty incompetence, abuses of authority, and neglect of duty in the ENTIRE federal bureaucracy has become an almost daily issue. It's all boiling down to the point of there being no one in it except people who know they can't be fired for anything without two years of red tape, will received paychecks and ungodly compensations if they are fired - so they just show up for work to draw a check and squeeze by doing as little a humanly possible.

    Examples?

    The US Transportation Safety Administration
    is more incompetent than airport screening in Senegal or Malta.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielreed/2015/06/08/the-tsas-95-failure-rate-be-carefull-what-you-ask-for-when-demanding-that-congress-do-something/?&_suid=1436719422623003275855188257992

    Veterans Administration....
    Since 2008 the VA has gone from 279000 employees to over 400000 in 2015. That is one VA employee for every 4.5 living US veterans... and they still cannot perform simple tasks like answer all their daily calls or provide reasonable care for veterans... But they want more money and employees...

    In the meantime... they give employees unbelievable bonuses even when suspended... $400 million in 2014.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2015/05/24/the-va-scandal-one-year-later/?&_suid=143672138973204603617466054857
    Don't forget the VA administrator who was paid $288,000 to move 140 miles from DC to take over the phone call center in Philadelphia ... 2011, she received a bonus of more than $23,000 even though patient backlogs — one area Rubens was in charge of managing — increased by 300,000. Rubens received more than $97,000 in bonuses between 2007 and 2011 even though the average time to process veterans’ claims doubled to 325 days on her watch. The ratio of backlogged cases nearly doubled as well, from 37 percent in 2009 to 71 percent in 2013.
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/25/va-hospital-director-paid-288k-in-relocation-payments-to-move-140-miles/#ixzz3fhOnqtME Also in the move she received a raise THREE grades above her job description.

    The Secret Service charging Columbian whores on govt charge cards... Of the 13 Secret Service employees suspected of soliciting prostitutes, three employees returned to duty, six retired and four had their security clearances revoked or removed, NONE WERE FIRED.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/17/secret-service-prostitutes-dennis-hof-american-hookers_n_1432210.html

    IRS Deliberately Cuts Its Customer Service Budget And Transfers MILLIONS To Employee Bonuses
    http://woundedamericanwarrior.com/report-irs-deliberately-cuts-its-customer-service-budget-and-transfers-money-to-employee-bonuses/....

    Need I go on?

    Lois Lerner and her buddies at the IRS lying to Congress about lost emails.
    Government Charge cards being abused into the millions and no one is fired
    [url]http://www.cnbc.com/2014/05/06/widespread-abuse-of-government-charge-cards.html
    [/url]

    So Obama starts talking about stricter gun control rather than fired incompetent federal employees...

    Go figure.
    If and only if the hapless Hillary ho gets elected President, all of these serious problems in federal agencies is going to get ten times worse. Let's hope that the democrats smarten up and pass her over and choose a more qualified and competent candidate. Let's hope that the republicans pass over all the narrow minded bible thumping screwballs and choose a moderate, competent candidate. Otherwise the U.S. is screwed.
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    Jul 12, 2015 10:39 PM GMT
    I actually think that some of the republicans on RJ come off as more sophisticated, and have more expansive vocabularies than ANY of the GOP candidates, most of whom sound barely literate. Do the GOP candidates purposely dumb themselves down, or are they really as stupid as they sound? If it's the former, then that's just patronizing and disingenuous. If it's the latter, then this country, or at least the red half, are just the inbred cousins who should only be allowed to use the paper plates.icon_lol.gif
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    roadbikeRob said
    bobbobbob said
    desertmuscl said ATLANTA — President Obama pushed Americans to call for stricter gun controls in the wake of the June 17 Charleston church massacre, complaining that the admitted killer, Dylann Roof, “had no trouble getting his hands on a gun.”

    What the President likely didn’t know when he made those comments is this: It wasn’t a lack of gun controls, but a bureaucratic failure, that led to Roof obtaining the gun legally, due, it turns out, on a senior FBI document examiner’s unfamiliarity with South Carolina geography.

    Your tax dollars at work - again.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2015/0711/How-FBI-s-Dylann-Roof-gun-snafu-hurts-Obama-s-gun-control-agenda


    The thing that concerns me about is under Obama the dishonesty incompetence, abuses of authority, and neglect of duty in the ENTIRE federal bureaucracy has become an almost daily issue. It's all boiling down to the point of there being no one in it except people who know they can't be fired for anything without two years of red tape, will received paychecks and ungodly compensations if they are fired - so they just show up for work to draw a check and squeeze by doing as little a humanly possible.

    Examples?

    The US Transportation Safety Administration
    is more incompetent than airport screening in Senegal or Malta.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielreed/2015/06/08/the-tsas-95-failure-rate-be-carefull-what-you-ask-for-when-demanding-that-congress-do-something/?&_suid=1436719422623003275855188257992

    Veterans Administration....
    Since 2008 the VA has gone from 279000 employees to over 400000 in 2015. That is one VA employee for every 4.5 living US veterans... and they still cannot perform simple tasks like answer all their daily calls or provide reasonable care for veterans... But they want more money and employees...

    In the meantime... they give employees unbelievable bonuses even when suspended... $400 million in 2014.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2015/05/24/the-va-scandal-one-year-later/?&_suid=143672138973204603617466054857
    Don't forget the VA administrator who was paid $288,000 to move 140 miles from DC to take over the phone call center in Philadelphia ... 2011, she received a bonus of more than $23,000 even though patient backlogs — one area Rubens was in charge of managing — increased by 300,000. Rubens received more than $97,000 in bonuses between 2007 and 2011 even though the average time to process veterans’ claims doubled to 325 days on her watch. The ratio of backlogged cases nearly doubled as well, from 37 percent in 2009 to 71 percent in 2013.
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/25/va-hospital-director-paid-288k-in-relocation-payments-to-move-140-miles/#ixzz3fhOnqtME Also in the move she received a raise THREE grades above her job description.

    The Secret Service charging Columbian whores on govt charge cards... Of the 13 Secret Service employees suspected of soliciting prostitutes, three employees returned to duty, six retired and four had their security clearances revoked or removed, NONE WERE FIRED.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/17/secret-service-prostitutes-dennis-hof-american-hookers_n_1432210.html

    IRS Deliberately Cuts Its Customer Service Budget And Transfers MILLIONS To Employee Bonuses
    http://woundedamericanwarrior.com/report-irs-deliberately-cuts-its-customer-service-budget-and-transfers-money-to-employee-bonuses/....

    Need I go on?

    Lois Lerner and her buddies at the IRS lying to Congress about lost emails.
    Government Charge cards being abused into the millions and no one is fired
    [url]http://www.cnbc.com/2014/05/06/widespread-abuse-of-government-charge-cards.html
    [/url]

    So Obama starts talking about stricter gun control rather than fired incompetent federal employees...

    Go figure.
    If and only if the hapless Hillary ho gets elected President, all of these serious problems in federal agencies is going to get ten times worse. Let's hope that the democrats smarten up and pass her over and choose a more qualified and competent candidate. Let's hope that the republicans pass over all the narrow minded bible thumping screwballs and choose a moderate, competent candidate. Otherwise the U.S. is screwed.


    Well, how about a "liberal extremist hen" or rooster?
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    Jul 12, 2015 10:48 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI actually think that some of the republicans on RJ come off as more sophisticated, and have more expansive vocabularies than ANY of the GOP candidates, most of whom sound barely literate. Do the GOP candidates purposely dumb themselves down, or are they really as stupid as they sound? If it's the former, then that's just patronizing and disingenuous. If it's the latter, then this country, or at least the red half, are just the inbred cousins who should only be allowed to use the paper plates.icon_lol.gif


    No offense bit that works both ways.. with a few huge exceptions, most liberals in RJ come across as being the same in regards to the only real candidate and the self anointed harridan vying for the Democratic nomination... I'm not even counting that bonehead who lives in Canada who's campaign kick off was about changing us over to the metric system.
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    Jul 12, 2015 10:59 PM GMT
    Any time a liberal holds up a Nobel Prize won by a guy who was nominated for it before he even took office is something like a low IQ demagogue holding up an empty can of green beans acting like he's feeding people.

    Anyone with common sense and a degree of insight would be embarrassed to do something that stupid...
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    HottJoe saidI actually think that some of the republicans on RJ come off as more sophisticated, and have more expansive vocabularies than ANY of the GOP candidates, most of whom sound barely literate. Do the GOP candidates purposely dumb themselves down, or are they really as stupid as they sound? If it's the former, then that's just patronizing and disingenuous. If it's the latter, then this country, or at least the red half, are just the inbred cousins who should only be allowed to use the paper plates.icon_lol.gif


    Obama when his Teleprompter Goes Out:



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    It's always so easy to sit back and criticize isn't it folks! The government is the largest employer in the country. So the likelihood of some issues will be higher.

    They also employ many people that would be on public assistance because the private sector won't give them a chance but often that part of the workforce is greatly criticized.

    Society (YOU) have decided that they should not always be paid comparable wages but you want the most outstanding employees. That doesn't always happen.

    It's easy for you to find fault when there is some failure, at some level but you seldom post anything when the system works, people get what they need, society benefits from what the government is doing.

    How many of you work for a company (public or private) that doesn't have fuck ups on occasion? I think you're more than a little critical of the people who are trying hard to keep the government functioning and constantly reassessing the process due to some of the issues found of late.
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    nursemuscle saidSo many screw ups under Obama? Oh yes, the Bush's were such wonderful presidents! Not one screw up and always took responsibility. NOT!

    9/11, Hurricane Katrina
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    bobbobbob saidAny time a liberal holds up a Nobel Prize won by a guy who was nominated for it before he even took office is something like a low IQ demagogue holding up an empty can of green beans acting like he's feeding people.

    Anyone with common sense and a degree of insight would be embarrassed to do something that stupid...

    Precisely, but consider the source.
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    eb925guy saidIt's always so easy to sit back and criticize isn't it folks! The government is the largest employer in the country. So the likelihood of some issues will be higher.

    They also employ many people that would be on public assistance because the private sector won't give them a chance but often that part of the workforce is greatly criticized.

    Society (YOU) have decided that they should not always be paid comparable wages but you want the most outstanding employees. That doesn't always happen.

    It's easy for you to find fault when there is some failure, at some level but you seldom post anything when the system works, people get what they need, society benefits from what the government is doing.

    How many of you work for a company (public or private) that doesn't have fuck ups on occasion? I think you're more than a little critical of the people who are trying hard to keep the government functioning and constantly reassessing the process due to some of the issues found of late.


    Wow. What a lame apologistic effort for federal incompetence and corruption... I'd be embarrassed to write such blather.

    Let's take it this way... If the largest employer were Koch Industries - responsible for the deaths of several hundred hundred veterans because of delays in getting healthcare to them in a responsible and prompt fashion you'd probably be menstruating and screaming kill them all. If you do not expect the largest employer in the US (which makes no direct contribution to the GNP and survives only on the labor and enterprise of the rest of the population) to hold itself to higher standards of ethical behavior than it does what does that say about you?

    We're not talking about fuck ups in the private sector here. That's a lame comparison. We're talking about things like transferring MILLIONS of dollars that were to fund services to taxpayers to help them reach IRS employees on the phone that were transferred over to pay BONUSES FOR EMPLOYEES... and we didn't find out about this until the IRS went to beg for more operations funding. Had something similar to that happened in the private sector everyone involved would have been summarily canned and possibly prosecuted with the utmost haste.

    We're talking about government employees using government charge cards to pay for hair cuts, parties in Las Vegas, prostitutes, and their own personal wardrobes. In the private sector everyone involved in this would have been fired and prosecuted.

    We're talking about a government union that makes it virtually impossible to fire an employee for anything - even felonies concerning their job or their private lives. That's right. They can draw full salaries for several years while awaiting hearings on their job status - with full benefits.

    Get off your ridiculous soap box spouting vague and lame apologies for incompetence and corruption... Be specific. Try justifying paying $288,000 in moving expenses to a federal employee who has perpetually been unable to solve any of the problems she has been entrusted to improve... and give her bonuses of over $100,000 in her tenure.

    Try putting a spin on the way Lois Lerner and other IRS officials lied to a Congressional committee about her server having been destroyed - her emails lost when all it took was a single congressman driving to the IT facility of the IRS and asking for the emails. Why is that woman still drawing a salary from the IRS? In the private sector she would have been fired and prosecuted for what she did.


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    eb925guy saidIt's always so easy to sit back and criticize isn't it folks! The government is the largest employer in the country. So the likelihood of some issues will be higher.

    Get off your ridiculous soap box spouting vague and lame apologies for incompetence and corruption... Be specific. Try justifying paying $288,000 in moving expenses to a federal employee who has perpetually been unable to solve any of the problems she has been entrusted to improve... and give her bonuses of over $100,000 in her tenure.

    Try putting a spin on the way Lois Lerner and other IRS officials lied to a Congressional committee about her server having been destroyed - her emails lost when all it took was a single congressman driving to the IT facility of the IRS and asking for the emails. Why is that woman still drawing a salary from the IRS? In the private sector she would have been fired and prosecuted for what she did.
    Your rudeness tells me all I need to know and that is that you really don't get it. Sure, pick and chose those times when thing hit the news and yes, they're are issues with the largest employer in the country, just as there are with Koch Bros, Walmart and any other large company. You just think you have all the answers don't you?
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    Jul 16, 2015 3:09 AM GMT
    ^boobboobboob neglects to mention that if it weren't for the EPA, the Koch Bros would suck the oxygen right out of the atmosphere for a quick buck, and then start selling government subsidized oxygen tanks.icon_rolleyes.gif