Freedom of Speech is under attack!

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    Jul 17, 2015 12:15 AM GMT
    I am anti censorship! People have a right to speak their minds. We might not agree with what they say, but this is a free country correct? And constitutionally protected!!!!

    I was really disturbed with this latest new article and I am not really happy that retailers who support out sourcing and hire ex-cons like MACY'S have decided to censor with force. It's not right.

    Here's a clip from the news article I read.

    Wisconsin Liberation Day
    The state Supreme Court shuts down an illegal campaign against conservatives.


    The opinion eviscerates the attempt to criminalize political speech under the theory of illegal “coordination.” Prosecutors claimed that their targets had illegally coordinated their independent expenditure campaigns with Mr. Walker’s. But the court ruled that prosecutors stretched the definition of the words “political purposes” in Wisconsin campaign law to sweep in constitutionally protected political speech

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/wisconsin-liberation-day-1437089579
  • tj85016

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    Jul 17, 2015 1:19 AM GMT
    it's even worse in Europe, especially Spain - they know there's trouble ahead and they're preparing for it

    probably debt related
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    Jul 17, 2015 1:31 AM GMT
    tj85016 saidit's even worse in Europe, especially Spain - they know there's trouble ahead and they're preparing for it

    probably debt related


    More crash & burn.....the drama has only started with Greece.
  • bobbobbob

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    Jul 17, 2015 4:11 AM GMT
    If you trace things back to around 2004-2006 for Ireland, Iceland, Spain, Portugal, Greece and a few other nations whose economies have collapsed or have been teetering on the verge of it.... There's one common denominator. They all bought in heavily and invested huge bucks in the Carbon Exchange Markets buying in on the idea that they could cash in selling their carbon credits (for not being in the circle of highly industrialized nations) -- to the more industrialized nations like the US, France, UK, Germany.

    Ooooooooops.... the truth came out on the Carbon Exchange scams and the whole crooked deal of Cap and Trade... Al Gore and his Goldman Sachs partners would have made over $10 BILLION the first year if Cap and Trade Legislation had been passed in the US and they were not the big time players in the scam.

    That's where all the government controlled retirement funds went for Greece.. and other countries. They were invested in Al Gore's scam.. and when it collapsed around 2010-2011... there's been a total media silence about it.... and where's Gore?



  • tj85016

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    Jul 17, 2015 4:14 AM GMT
    ^^^

    that's true, Gore is a hypocritical crook just like Clinton, Biden and the Bush family

    just like the US-led coup in Ukraine that got Biden's kid (a Goldman Sachs scum bag) on the Board of Directors of Ukraine's largest energy consortium

    just follow the money - all these dirt bags are crooks
  • bobbobbob

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    Jul 17, 2015 4:44 AM GMT
    tj85016 said^^^

    that's true, Gore is a hypocritical crook just like Clinton, Biden and the Bush family

    just like the US-led coup in Ukraine that got Biden's kid (a Goldman Sachs scum bag) on the Board of Directors of Ukraine's largest energy consortium

    just follow the money - all these dirt bags are crooks


    TJ.............. AT LAST we find common ground. I'm near willing to support bringing the guillotine to the US as a remedial re-education tool for politicians and bureaucrats and their media fuck boys: you lie, you die. We are in the information age and they and their concerted efforts are designed to fractionalize us into powerless groups so they can hold all the power with lies. I've had enough of them.

  • bobbobbob

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    Jul 17, 2015 4:50 AM GMT
    I believe Freedom of Speech comes with the implicit obligation to spread truth AND nothing less.

    Anything less than spreading truth is an abuse of the concept of Freedom of Speech....

    So now let's hear from the people people who believe truths are relative and subjective...
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    Jul 17, 2015 5:16 AM GMT
    If I believe that all who speak other than truth must die, and all who speak less than the truth must die, and I speak no less than what I believe to be truth, then what of those who disagree with me?

    Case I: They do not speak the truth. They must die.

    Case II: They do speak the truth. I must die.

    Of course, if there is such a thing as a relative or subjective truth, this falls apart.
  • bobbobbob

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    Jul 17, 2015 5:22 AM GMT
    All it means to the everyday people is ...... MAKE SURE YOU CAN BACK UP WHAT YOU'RE SAYING....

    If you can't back up what you're saying ........ DON'T SAY IT.
  • tj85016

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    Jul 17, 2015 5:33 AM GMT
    find that scum bags like the smiley face, yuk yuk, laugh-it-up, asshole Joe Biden are the worst sort of political criminals

    him, that idiot Jimmy Carter, Bush Sr, Bush Jr, Hilary Clinton, that complete imbicile Ronald Reagan

    I would love to know how dirty (e.g. corrupt) the New York Cuomo family is

    I would love to know how "in bed" with Boeing and Lockheed Martin people like John McCain and Lindsay Graham are - hell 1/2 the Pentagon should be fired and put out to pasture, it's just a fucking jobs program for worthless Admirals and Generals

    I would love to know how many Wall Street cocks Hilary Clinton and Charles Shumer have sucked

    and why isn't that New Jersey scum bag criminal Jon Corzine in jail?
  • bobbobbob

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    Jul 17, 2015 5:54 AM GMT
    tj85016 saidfind that scum bags like the smiley face, yuk yuk, laugh-it-up, asshole Joe Biden are the worst sort of political criminals

    HIGH FIVE!!!!!!!

    tj85016 saidhim, that idiot Jimmy Carter, Bush Sr, Bush Jr, Hilary Clinton, that complete imbicile Ronald Reagan

    HIGH TEN!!!

    I would love to know how dirty (e.g. corrupt) the New York Cuomo family is
    DISTRACTION FROM THE REAL ISSUE

    I would love to know how "in bed" with Boeing and Lockheed Martin people like John McCain and Lindsay Graham are
    ((NO MORE THAN DEMS ARE DUE TO CONTRACT WORK FOR JETS THE USAF HAS SAID THEY DON'T NEED OR WANT)))... check the slime trails.

    I would love to know how many Wall Street cocks Hilary Clinton and Charles Shumer have sucked... Wall Street. There's where the guillotine needs to be set up... and ... I'm sorry.. for the best interest of the US ... Bill and Hillary need to be the first to go.

    and why isn't that New Jersey scum bag criminal Jon Corzine in jail?[/quote]

    I'm not up on Joe Corzine.. and was sweating having to give you something more than a a high ten...... a high twenty would have ruined my reputation... LOL.
  • Jeepguy2

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    Jul 17, 2015 7:57 AM GMT
    tj85016 said^^^

    that's true, Gore is a hypocritical crook just like Clinton, Biden and the Bush family

    just like the US-led coup in Ukraine that got Biden's kid (a Goldman Sachs scum bag) on the Board of Directors of Ukraine's largest energy consortium

    just follow the money - all these dirt bags are crooks


    A lot of good that is going to do young Biden when Putin annexes Ukraine. icon_lol.gif
  • tj85016

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    Jul 17, 2015 8:23 AM GMT
    ^^

    Putin took Crimea and we did nothing in spite of the treaty the US and UK has with Ukraine; therefore, it was part of the deal we had with Putin after the US-led coup in Ukraine

    Putin gets a navel base and we get control of the natural gas

    if you don't think this stuff doesn't happen, your sadly mistaken

    "Things do not happen. Things are made to happen."
    John F Kennedy
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    Jul 17, 2015 12:36 PM GMT
    Liberal Kirsten Powers discusses her book "The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech":
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    Jul 17, 2015 2:35 PM GMT
    2bnaked said... disturbed with this latest new article and I am not really happy that retailers who support out sourcing and hire ex-cons like MACY'S have decided to censor with force...
    Err pot calling the kettle black on a few levels here. Good that is still permitted tho.
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    Jul 17, 2015 5:05 PM GMT
    bobbobbob saidAll it means to the everyday people is ...... MAKE SURE YOU CAN BACK UP WHAT YOU'RE SAYING....

    If you can't back up what you're saying ........ DON'T SAY IT.


    If that was put into practice here on RJ there would be hardly anyone left in these forums!
  • Muscles25

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    Jul 17, 2015 10:18 PM GMT
    Have you been on a college campus lately? Less free speech there than any other place in the USA.
  • tj85016

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    Jul 17, 2015 11:37 PM GMT
    Muscles25 saidHave you been on a college campus lately? Less free speech there than any other place in the USA.


    amazing? isn't it?