Gay teen, 14, ‘hanged from tree’ at boys’ summer camp in Iran

  • metta

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    Jul 18, 2015 1:21 AM GMT
    Gay teen, 14, ‘hanged from tree’ at boys’ summer camp in Iran


    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/gay-teen-14-hanged-from-tree-in-iran/
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    Jul 18, 2015 1:31 AM GMT
    The GOP extended their ideals to Iran now?
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    Jul 18, 2015 1:16 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidThe GOP extended their ideals to Iran now?


    No. Instead Obama is giving Iran $150 billion dollars and letting them keep 4 American Hostages.

    Gay Tim Cook at Apple is also rewarding Iran:
    Apple in Iran
    In a move that would further cement its global dominance in the tech marketplace, Apple (AAPL) has been in touch with Iranian distributors in hopes of getting its gadgets in the hands of everyday citizens there, according to a report in the Wall Street Journal.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/yellen-on-capitol-hill--apple-in-iran-and-trump-s-bank-account-150957776.html#
  • rdberg1957

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    Jul 18, 2015 4:01 PM GMT
    Saying that Obama is giving Iran $150billion is quite a distortion. Lifting of sanctions if Iran complies with obligations is not giving money; it's allowing them to trade with other countries and uses assets previously frozen.
  • jeepguySD

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    Jul 18, 2015 5:25 PM GMT
    If this story turns out to be true, it is horrifying and barbaric, but not surprising.

    Let's not forget, though, that there is no shortage of evangelical Christians here in the U.S. who believe, strongly, that homosexuality should be punished by death. In 2011 Congressman Ron Paul, then a Republican candidate for President, "welcomed" the endorsement of Phillip Kayser, an evangelical minister in Iowa who wrote "homosexuals who come out of the closet are worthy of death.” After much criticism, the Paul campaign quietly removed the endorsement from its web site, but neither the candidate, nor any of his staff, ever publicly condemned Kayser's statements.

    We can blithely condemn barbarity "over there" but the struggle against hate here at home isn't over yet.
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    Jul 18, 2015 5:59 PM GMT
    jeepguySD saidIf this story turns out to be true, it is horrifying and barbaric, but not surprising.

    Let's not forget, though, that there is no shortage of evangelical Christians here in the U.S. who believe, strongly, that homosexuality should be punished by death. In 2011 Congressman Ron Paul, then a Republican candidate for President, "welcomed" the endorsement of Phillip Kayser, an evangelical minister in Iowa who wrote "homosexuals who come out of the closet are worthy of death.” After much criticism, the Paul campaign quietly removed the endorsement from its web site, but neither the candidate, nor any of his staff, ever publicly condemned Kayser's statements.

    We can blithely condemn barbarity "over there" but the struggle against hate here at home isn't over yet.


    Very well said!
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    Jul 18, 2015 6:10 PM GMT
    jeepguySD saidIf this story turns out to be true, it is horrifying and barbaric, but not surprising.

    Let's not forget, though, that there is no shortage of evangelical Christians here in the U.S. who believe, strongly, that homosexuality should be punished by death. In 2011 Congressman Ron Paul, then a Republican candidate for President, "welcomed" the endorsement of Phillip Kayser, an evangelical minister in Iowa who wrote "homosexuals who come out of the closet are worthy of death.” After much criticism, the Paul campaign quietly removed the endorsement from its web site, but neither the candidate, nor any of his staff, ever publicly condemned Kayser's statements.

    We can blithely condemn barbarity "over there" but the struggle against hate here at home isn't over yet.


    And as Republican as I am, which is very, and as long as I've been a Republican (1964) I've never once heard that face to face, ear to ear .... never.
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    Jul 18, 2015 6:13 PM GMT
    pazkilimanjaro saidi think that the hatred for islam and it's followers over what some people who happen to be islamic are doing is flatout wrong. ever since 9/11, it's been cool to shit on muslims and islam. even though i'm not muslim or islamic, just think that the generalization of everyone that is muslim or follows islam and the trashing of that shit is just plain disrespectful. it's sad how people refuse to use differentiation in terms of talking about the people who are islamic that are doing fucked up things from those that aren't and being judgmental assuming that islam preaches hate and etc. just stop.

    i have muslim homies, peoples and etc and they're no different than anybody else. just think it's totally disrespectful to them for folks to assume the worst about them over what some muslim people are doing.


    And funny and sorta ironic that my first girlfriend was Iranian.
  • Joeyphx444

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    Jul 18, 2015 6:19 PM GMT
    Wow so the liberals took this story about IRAN an ISLAMIC STATE and turned into an attack on Christians.

    Yep, we are dead, just surrender to terrorism now, kiss their asses more than we are now, Barack Hussein Osama Bin Laden
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    Jul 18, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
    pazkilimanjaro saidi think that the hatred for islam and it's followers over what some people who happen to be islamic are doing is flatout wrong. ever since 9/11, it's been cool to shit on muslims and islam. even though i'm not muslim or islamic, just think that the generalization of everyone that is muslim or follows islam and the trashing of that shit is just plain disrespectful. it's sad how people refuse to use differentiation in terms of talking about the people who are islamic that are doing fucked up things from those that aren't and being judgmental assuming that islam preaches hate and etc. just stop.

    i have muslim homies, peoples and etc and they're no different than anybody else. just think it's totally disrespectful to them for folks to assume the worst about them over what some muslim people are doing.


    That kind of hatred is not new.

    It was partly because of traditional hatred of Jews, which was fostered by some churches, that Hitler was able to murder thousands of Jews.

    It was hatred of Muslims by Sikhs and Hindus, which was reciprocated by Muslims, that resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths following World War II as Pakistan was split off from India.

    It was hatred of Japanese, fanned by politicians and the media, that resulted in the interment of thousands of Japanese in the U.S. shortly after the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

    Unfortunately, instead of thinking clearly, many people generalize instead.
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    Jul 18, 2015 9:48 PM GMT
    rdberg1957 saidSaying that Obama is giving Iran $150billion is quite a distortion. Lifting of sanctions if Iran complies with obligations is not giving money; it's allowing them to trade with other countries and uses assets previously frozen.


    Giving them back frozen assets is giving them money. They will use the money to sponsor more terrorism.

    Why weren't the 4 hostages returned?

    Why hasn't Obama offered asylum to Iranian Gays?

    Why is Tim Cook trying to profiteer off of dead gays?
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    Jul 18, 2015 10:17 PM GMT
    Even more interestingly, my takeaway from the article was that the teen was hung because he was accused of being gay.
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    Jul 19, 2015 1:40 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidThe GOP extended their ideals to Iran now?


    Tacky and intolerant. Modern democrats would view John F. Kennedy as a Reaganite extremist. That's how far the party has drifted to the left.
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    Jul 19, 2015 1:40 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidEven more interestingly, my takeaway from the article was that the teen was hung because he was accused of being gay.


    You have to remember that execution is the order of the day.
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    Jul 19, 2015 1:50 AM GMT
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    rdberg1957 saidSaying that Obama is giving Iran $150billion is quite a distortion. Lifting of sanctions if Iran complies with obligations is not giving money; it's allowing them to trade with other countries and uses assets previously frozen.

    Giving them back frozen assets is giving them money. They will use the money to sponsor more terrorism.

    Why weren't the 4 hostages returned?

    Why hasn't Obama offered asylum to Iranian Gays?

    Why is Tim Cook trying to profiteer off of dead gays?

    ummm... because this was a multi-national effort, in which the US was just one player, not the sole player. Individual national interests were not on the table, for the US or anyone else bargaining with Iran. Therefore the US hostages, and the hostages from other countries, were not negotiated.

    As for asylum, Congress has blocked granting it based on sexual orientation. Talk to Congress, not Obama. But I would like to see him issue another of his Executive Orders that might permit it, that so infuriate you Right Wingers.
  • jjguy05

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    Jul 19, 2015 5:06 AM GMT
    mx5guynj said
    paulflexes saidThe GOP extended their ideals to Iran now?


    No. Instead Obama is giving Iran $150 billion dollars


    That's a big fat lie.

    1. No one's giving them $150 billion. That money is theirs from oil sales, sitting frozen in banks in various countries. It will be unfrozen as a result of the deal.

    2. It was a multilateral decision among several countries to unfreeze the money.



    jeepguySD saidIf this story turns out to be true, it is horrifying and barbaric, but not surprising.

    Let's not forget, though, that there is no shortage of evangelical Christians here in the U.S. who believe, strongly, that homosexuality should be punished by death. In 2011 Congressman Ron Paul, then a Republican candidate for President, "welcomed" the endorsement of Phillip Kayser, an evangelical minister in Iowa who wrote "homosexuals who come out of the closet are worthy of death.” After much criticism, the Paul campaign quietly removed the endorsement from its web site, but neither the candidate, nor any of his staff, ever publicly condemned Kayser's statements.

    We can blithely condemn barbarity "over there" but the struggle against hate here at home isn't over yet.


    It could very well be true, although -officially- Iran charges people with "rape" rather than being gay...at least as far as high profile cases go.

    The human rights situation in Iran is horrendous, but the US has BFF relations with countries that are just as bad (like Saudi Arabia). And -contrary to what folks like mx5guynj might believe- sanctioning them obviously doesn't work as far as improving human rights. It didn't work for 36 years.
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    Jul 19, 2015 5:11 AM GMT
    pazkilimanjaro saidi have muslim homies,
    Well "I have black friends."

    Does that me sound not-racist? Or does it sounds like a typical closeted black-hater?

    Think before you type. icon_wink.gif
  • jjguy05

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    Jul 19, 2015 5:17 AM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidWow so the liberals took this story about IRAN an ISLAMIC STATE...


    Well, Iranians are Muslim. News flash.

    mx5guynj said
    Giving them back frozen assets is giving them money.


    No, it's not.



    mx5guynj said
    They will use the money to sponsor more terrorism.


    The US has sponsored terrorism far more often than Iran has. From the Taliban (US-sponsored in the 1980s) to right-wing death squads in Central America's civil wars in the 70s and 80s.

    Syria's Assad -supported by Iran- had decent relations with the Bush administration, and tortured Guantanamo detainees for the US (prisoners would be secretly flown from Guantanamo to Syria where the Assad regime would torture them on behalf of the US).

    Currently, Iran is on the same side as the US regarding both ISIS/Syria/Iraq and AlQaeda/Yemen.

    FYI.


    mx5guynj said
    Why weren't the 4 hostages returned?


    Do you think that refusing a deal would have led to Iran releasing them?

    Most likely, as Iran always does with foreign detainees from rich countries, they will make a forced confession on national TV in Iran, which is a propaganda method used by the regime for domestic consumption, and they will be released.

    mx5guynj said
    Why hasn't Obama offered asylum to Iranian Gays?


    Is there a stream of Iranian gays coming into the US and applying for asylum? Can you provide a link of any known cases?
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    Jul 19, 2015 5:21 AM GMT
    jjguy05 said
    Joeyphx444 saidWow so the liberals took this story about IRAN an ISLAMIC STATE...


    Well, Iranians are Muslim. News flash.
    Just like Americans are Christian, right? icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 19, 2015 5:23 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    jjguy05 said
    Joeyphx444 saidWow so the liberals took this story about IRAN an ISLAMIC STATE...


    Well, Iranians are Muslim. News flash.
    Just like Americans are Christian, right? icon_wink.gif


    The majority are, yes.
  • jjguy05

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    Jul 19, 2015 5:26 AM GMT
    Joeyphx444 said
    Yep, we are dead, just surrender to terrorism now, kiss their asses more than we are now, Barack Hussein Osama Bin Laden


    You realize Barrack Obama had Osama Bin Laden killed, right?

    Or that Osama bin Laden, as a hardcore Sunni, didn't consider Iranians (predominantly Shiite) as Muslims.

    Or perhaps you're just a moron with an opinion.
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    Jul 19, 2015 5:33 AM GMT
    I really don't get why the republicans are so uptight about Iran... It's like their ideal society. Exactly what they want for the U.S. You would think they'd be emmigrating en masse.
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    Jul 19, 2015 5:46 AM GMT
    Now excuse me sirs,

    This picture of two allegedly gay teenagers being hanged for sexual crimes, is well over 10 years old, if not much older.

    If you are going to print such a controversial headline which accompanies inflammatory pictures and rhetoric, at least get your facts straight.
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    Jul 19, 2015 4:17 PM GMT
    CLTMike46 saidNow excuse me sirs,

    This picture of two allegedly gay teenagers being hanged for sexual crimes, is well over 10 years old, if not much older.

    If you are going to print such a controversial headline which accompanies inflammatory pictures and rhetoric, at least get your facts straight.


    Yep. And I didn't post here because of that, waiting to see if there would be confirmation.

    When I read where the OP's article mentioned unconfirmed I googled simply https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=hanging+iran&tbm=nws and quickly found this

    http://oblogdeeoblogda.me/2015/07/17/london-vigil-on-10th-anniversary-of-iran-teen-hangings/

    noting the same pic posted

    Now it could just be that they just stupidly used an old pic to go with a new story but it seems a bit concidental for this story to come out on the 10th anniversary of a previously reported hanging.

    So for now as far as I'm concerned this story is a fiction until proven otherwise.
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    Jul 19, 2015 5:40 PM GMT
    jjguy05 said
    mx5guynj said
    paulflexes saidThe GOP extended their ideals to Iran now?


    No. Instead Obama is giving Iran $150 billion dollars


    That's a big fat lie.

    1. No one's giving them $150 billion. That money is theirs from oil sales, sitting frozen in banks in various countries. It will be unfrozen as a result of the deal.

    2. It was a multilateral decision among several countries to unfreeze the money.



    jeepguySD saidIf this story turns out to be true, it is horrifying and barbaric, but not surprising.

    Let's not forget, though, that there is no shortage of evangelical Christians here in the U.S. who believe, strongly, that homosexuality should be punished by death. In 2011 Congressman Ron Paul, then a Republican candidate for President, "welcomed" the endorsement of Phillip Kayser, an evangelical minister in Iowa who wrote "homosexuals who come out of the closet are worthy of death.” After much criticism, the Paul campaign quietly removed the endorsement from its web site, but neither the candidate, nor any of his staff, ever publicly condemned Kayser's statements.

    We can blithely condemn barbarity "over there" but the struggle against hate here at home isn't over yet.


    It could very well be true, although -officially- Iran charges people with "rape" rather than being gay...at least as far as high profile cases go.

    The human rights situation in Iran is horrendous, but the US has BFF relations with countries that are just as bad (like Saudi Arabia). And -contrary to what folks like mx5guynj might believe- sanctioning them obviously doesn't work as far as improving human rights. It didn't work for 36 years.


    Cuba was sanctioned for more than half a century and nothing was accomplished by it. Sometimes sanctions do work; apparently they worked in South Africa, but one shouldn't expect them to work always.