Cuba

  • FRE0

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    Jul 20, 2015 6:51 AM GMT
    Now that diplomatic relations with Cuba have been restored, probably the GOP will excoriate Obama even though the GOP lauded Nixon for restoring relations with China.
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    Jul 20, 2015 6:58 AM GMT
    Very global thread which is perfect in 'all things gay''section icon_rolleyes.gif
  • FRE0

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    Jul 20, 2015 7:20 AM GMT
    Bonaparts saidVery global thread which is perfect in 'all things gay''section icon_rolleyes.gif


    It didn't end up in the section where I intended to post it.
  • charlitos666

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    Jul 20, 2015 3:53 PM GMT
    FRE0 said
    Bonaparts saidVery global thread which is perfect in 'all things gay''section icon_rolleyes.gif


    It didn't end up in the section where I intended to post it.



    They messed that up a million years ago and they still havent fixed it. If im already in the politics section I obviously intend new threads to be posted there but unless you specify it, it all goes to All Things Gay. It must be really challenging for RJ developers to set the right default value on a multiple select input...



    Back on topic. Normalization of relationships with Cuba has been way overdue. Its a no brainer, Americans are the only people not allowed to travel to Cuba. It obviously has nothing to do with Cuba, but USA's internal political issues that most of the time make no sense whatsoever. Happens when you have countries run by dumb people in positions pf power.
  • jeep334

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    Jul 20, 2015 4:46 PM GMT
    The Cuba situation is interesting. The whole concept I believe is two fold: (1) There was a real threat from a real enemy and we stopped it. There was the possibility of the price of a horrible war in the process but we stuck to our guns. I remember well sitting in front of our black and white TV wondering if my oldest brother was going to war and what it would mean to the whole world. Scared shitless? Yep. In reality, we came out of it all as the clear victor before the whole world. We don't come off as the clear winner in too many world situations so this was a good show of our strength. (2) This was orchestrated by JFK, a hero and legend of ours then and one that we piratically worship today. It was fitting that another Democrat, and one supported by the Kennedy family, took the bold steps to step in and make the change. If it had been a Republican, the overall tone would have been much different.

    This is an absolutely worthwhile move and we should proceed with great caution. icon_cool.gif
  • FRE0

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    Jul 20, 2015 6:47 PM GMT
    jeep334 saidThe Cuba situation is interesting. The whole concept I believe is two fold: (1) There was a real threat from a real enemy and we stopped it. There was the possibility of the price of a horrible war in the process but we stuck to our guns. I remember well sitting in front of our black and white TV wondering if my oldest brother was going to war and what it would mean to the whole world. Scared shitless? Yep. In reality, we came out of it all as the clear victor before the whole world. We don't come off as the clear winner in too many world situations so this was a good show of our strength. (2) This was orchestrated by JFK, a hero and legend of ours then and one that we piratically worship today. It was fitting that another Democrat, and one supported by the Kennedy family, took the bold steps to step in and make the change. If it had been a Republican, the overall tone would have been much different.

    This is an absolutely worthwhile move and we should proceed with great caution. icon_cool.gif


    I agree with most of your post. However, as I see it, JFK blew it during the Bay of Pigs disaster to the detriment of the many Cubans who were depending on the support that never arrived. On the other hand, JFK did handle the missile threat well.

    When the isolation of Cuba should have ended I don't know, but surely it was continued far longer than it should have been. A friend of mine was able to visit Cuba during the isolation; he went via Canada with an academic group. Before the Castro era, Americans often visited Cuba, sometimes even taking their cars with them.

    We'll soon see how it affects politics here.
  • jeep334

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    Jul 20, 2015 10:39 PM GMT
    I'm waiting to order some Cuban cigars directly from Cuba. icon_cool.gif
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    charlitos666 said
    FRE0 said
    Bonaparts saidVery global thread which is perfect in 'all things gay''section icon_rolleyes.gif


    It didn't end up in the section where I intended to post it.



    They messed that up a million years ago and they still havent fixed it. If im already in the politics section I obviously intend new threads to be posted there but unless you specify it, it all goes to All Things Gay. It must be really challenging for RJ developers to set the right default value on a multiple select input...



    Back on topic. Normalization of relationships with Cuba has been way overdue. Its a no brainer, Americans are the only people not allowed to travel to Cuba. It obviously has nothing to do with Cuba, but USA's internal political issues that most of the time make no sense whatsoever. Happens when you have countries run by dumb people in positions pf power.


    You think you have dumb politicians. SA is run by the dumbest motherfucker on earth; Jacob Zuma. He doesn't even have high school.