No car = loser?

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    Jan 29, 2009 2:42 AM GMT
    I've read several people refer to people who don't own a car as a "loser" or someone who "doesn't have their life together."
    Why?

    Does owning a car deem someone more successful as a human being than those who don't own a car? Three years ago, I sold my car to get a plane ticket to move across the country. Since I've gotten here, I live in a town that a car just isn't necessary. Most all things are within walking distance, and for those places that aren't, I can easily grab a cab to get to. I save more money by taking a cab on the odd times that I need to than I would paying a car note, insurance, gas, and upkeep.

    So what gives? It reminds me a lot of song lyrics...

    "Girls don't like boys. Girls like cars and money."
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    Jan 29, 2009 3:34 AM GMT
    yeah... its those same people who call guys without cars a loser who can't afford to go anywhere or do anything...

    Not having a car doesn't make you a loser just someone who prefers to spend there money elsewhere
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    Jan 29, 2009 3:41 AM GMT
    No. Not having a car doesn't mean you're a loser. However, if I was seriously dating a guy, it would be nice if he had his own transportation. It would be unfair for me to be the one that always drives over to his place, assuming the distance apart isn't within reasonable walking or bus or train distance.

    Personally, I would give up my car. But I'm a car fanatic and I love driving. And public transportation sucks around LA. So a car is more of a necessity for most folks around here.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Jan 29, 2009 3:49 AM GMT
    No car doesn't = loser. Lazy does. I have friends that live in NYC and a few in Hoboken a city in NJ near NYC and they have no need for a car. Alot of people don't. I have 2 and a motorcycle, but I love driving and I don't drink or do drugs but I love having the freedom they bring.icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 29, 2009 3:58 AM GMT
    pyrotech saidI save more money by taking a cab on the odd times that I need to than I would paying a car note, insurance, gas, and upkeep.

    I don't own a car. I own a Vespa scooter. I bought my partner a new car for Christmas last year, cash, and I pay for the insurance on it, and on another car he also owns outright. But I own no car myself.

    I have well over a 6-figure income, and I have no need for a car. If someone judged me a loser based on my not having a car, he'd be passing up a gold mine (I agree one could argue I might be a loser on other levels, but I'm sticking strictly to the subject here).

    I also have an ex-BF who lives in Manhattan, who likewise has no car, and he's a millionaire, wealthier than me. Pass him up because he has no car and you've just turned your back on a fortune. And he happens to be a gorgeous hunk, a TV & movie actor, so you've also turned down fame as well as fortune, just because he doesn't own a car.

    Aren't strict formulas stupid?
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    Jan 29, 2009 4:51 AM GMT
    I have no need for a car here in SF. One of the things I love about the city itself is the mobility to get around (using MUNI and BART) without having to rely on a car. Yep, I'm a loser. LOL
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    Jan 29, 2009 4:58 AM GMT
    A car is very important...depending on where you live and what you are trying to accomplish. I drive a V8 SUV and it fulfills a purpose/need that I have. If you don't live in a place where you need a car or do not have a need for a car...then by having a car you are not making a wise decision. Now the 22" rims on my ride...those are totally and absolutely unnecessary LOL
  • metalxracr

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    Jan 29, 2009 5:02 AM GMT
    I don't think they are losers, I just think that their lifestyle doesn't require it. I have a car, but I MUST have one. I travel all of the time.. up and down the coast of CA and several states.


    Some people have no need for frequent extensive traveling. So having no car suits them just fine.


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    Jan 29, 2009 5:11 AM GMT
    Like Rekindle, I too have no need for a car here in SF. Although NYC's public transportation is to be envied by MUNI, SF's system is not all THAT bad. For a city that's 7x7 square miles, an automobile is hardly needed.

    Red_Vespa - Why is it that in almost every forum post, you do not fail to mention either your wealth or your late partner who had passed of HIV? We ALL recognize your accomplishments in life and sympathize with you, however, the addition of these items at times seem to have nothing to do with the OP's query.
  • SeanTRNJ

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    Jan 29, 2009 5:27 AM GMT
    I wish I didn't need my car icon_sad.gif
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    Jan 29, 2009 5:40 AM GMT

    No, not having a car doesn't necessarily deem you a "loser". I myself have actually just recently got my liscense and car. There are several other modes of transportation, but you gotta admit, having a car gets to places way more easily.

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    Jan 29, 2009 5:44 AM GMT
    uh no, I guess being a jerk, molester or asshole would make someone a loser, not having a car, meh, not so much. depending on where you live, its quite common not having a vehicle, other places multiple ones...
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    Jan 29, 2009 6:10 AM GMT
    I had the same humble thoughts as you when i was your age....A car does not make a man but dates were hard to come by when i drove a econo shitbox. Then I and bought a cool car and everything changed.
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    Jan 29, 2009 6:12 AM GMT
    If you live in the city it seems public transportation is cool. In the suburbs not so much.
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    Jan 29, 2009 6:27 AM GMT
    I am Asian. ♥

    I am gay. ♥♥

    Ergo, I don't drive! ♥♥♥

    Cabfares and KFC delivery most welcome. ♥♥♥♥

    Love lots,

    ZiMsTeR xx
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    ♥♥♥♥♥
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    Jan 29, 2009 6:34 AM GMT



    .....all of the losers I dated had cars....icon_eek.gif


    -Doug
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    Jan 29, 2009 6:37 AM GMT
    ZiMsTeR saidI am Asian. ♥

    I am gay. ♥♥

    Ergo, I don't drive! ♥♥♥

    Cabfares and KFC delivery most welcome. ♥♥♥♥

    Love lots,

    ZiMsTeR xx
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    ♥♥♥♥♥


    You just don't drive because you get mad the glitter washes off in the rain and you have yet to figure out a way to put a pink VW Cabriolet on roller skates.icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 29, 2009 10:35 AM GMT
    I'm Asian too! I ride rickshaws! icon_biggrin.gif
  • zakariahzol

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    Jan 29, 2009 11:40 AM GMT
    Depend on where you live and what you want to do with it.. I have a car and two motorbike. The car is needed at work when I need to see customer, do sales presentation and have a need to look professional and presentable. It also come handy when I need to take family or friend for a long distance journey or buy something bulky. My small cc motor are suitable for commute to work. It cut on gasoline, traffic congestions and also low maintenance. My bigger cc motor is for me to indulge in my hobby and passion for big muscle motorbike and my bikers lifestyle. It great when I have this urge for adventure, fitting in with my black leather /denim look and my desire to be masculine /macho.

    I also have no problem taking public transport . As my country is small you can get around everywhere here and also neighbouring country taking express bus, boat, train and low cost airline.
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    Jan 29, 2009 12:23 PM GMT
    I don't have a car and I love that fact. I'd rather have my nice apartment in a nice area than have to feed and maintain a pile of metal on wheels. Plus, it's nice to live close to the MARTA Rail of Atlanta.
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    Jan 29, 2009 12:50 PM GMT
    It seems this might be one of those town mouse vs. country mouse issues...
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    Jan 29, 2009 1:13 PM GMT
    horseshit. some of the biggest losers I have met have had only one thing going for them -- i.e., they had a car.
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    Jan 29, 2009 2:02 PM GMT
    HighVoltageGuy saidRed_Vespa - Why is it that in almost every forum post, you do not fail to mention either your wealth or your late partner who had passed of HIV?

    I try to mention what is relevant to a post, often citing examples from my own life or those whom I've known, though I confess to times of being off-topic for the sake of silliness. I tried to illustrate above that a lack of a car does not mean someone must match the common image and negative inferences set out by the OP. Nor does my ex-BF living in Manhattan meet them as I noted, thereby suggesting that the OP's proposition "No car = loser" is at least sometimes false. As is your opinion that my comments were not germane to this topic.

    I made no mention of my late partner above, but will do so when that is also appropriate, as it often is within RJ, with discussions of HIV/AIDS, safe sex, and other topics that touch upon his life & death. I'm surprised you didn't also criticize references to my military service, which is another personal source I frequently draw upon, or to my HIV/AIDS and other community volunteer work, that I purposely will mention in hopes of encouraging others to do the same.

    I appreciate that talk of wealth can be tasteless (and BTW, I've never said I myself am wealthy, though a number of my friends are). I had another ex who's a chronic offender in that regard, and I see the negative effect it has on his friendships, much of it no doubt fueled by jealousy but his behavior unacceptable nonetheless. So I'll be more cognizant of any such impression I may be giving about myself in the future here.

    But my references to my late partner are unlikely to be curtailed. I can understand how your own circumstances may make you jealous of others in some regards, but your inexplicable reasons for being irritated by my late partner do not interest me at all.
  • DiverScience

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    Jan 29, 2009 2:27 PM GMT
    Loser? No.

    Just means I can't date them since I'm not driving to them every time and we don't have public transport worth a damn.

    But I can't really blame them for not having one if they don't need it. They're damned expensive.
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    Jan 29, 2009 2:44 PM GMT
    no car does not = loser

    if they find their way around town tahts awsome

    but most of the times no car = "can u pick me up?" "i wanna go out but u gotta drive" or the famous "can you do me a favor?"