Movie: Stonewall - The Fictional Version. Director Roland Emmerich

  • metta

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    Jul 22, 2015 4:14 PM GMT
    Stonewall, which will tell the story of the birth of the modern gay rights movement, is scheduled for release on September 25 in the US.




    The drama will focus on the story of homeless Danny Winters – a fictional character caught up in the riots – who experiences a political awakening after making his way to New York and being introduced to the infamous Stonewall Inn – where “with the toss of a single brick, a riot ensues and a crusade for equality is born.”


    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/07/22/film-based-on-stonewall-riots-given-official-release-date/?utm_source=MOBFB
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    Jul 22, 2015 4:19 PM GMT
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    http://www.out.com/popnography/2015/7/03/new-images-stonewall-film

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3018070/
  • metta

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    Aug 05, 2015 5:43 PM GMT
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    Aug 05, 2015 5:48 PM GMT
    There are a lot of complaints already about the film not having enough trans people, and black and brown people.
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    Aug 05, 2015 5:58 PM GMT
    Not really a fan of the half fact-based/half fictional accounts of actual events. It's kind of weird watching something that's been hyped as being based on a true story, and then you later read most of what you saw was totally made up. Kinda deceitful.
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    Aug 05, 2015 6:03 PM GMT
    ^
    Very few of "based on true story" movies are based on fact. I think people should assume that.
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    Aug 05, 2015 6:21 PM GMT
    as far as dialogue, obviously writers come up with most of that, but it's usually based on a well-known history of events combined with interviews and stuff. this whole thing is based on a totally fictional character, but they've slapped the name of this real life event on as the title. tell a story as it is or write fiction. this fantasy/biopic stuff just comes off as an attempt to rewrite history.
  • CheeseKraut

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    Aug 05, 2015 7:36 PM GMT
    [quote][Stonewall, which will tell the story of the birth of the modern gay rights movement[/quote]

    Um no.
    But seeing it's an american production I'm not surprised it claims to be what it's not. Being american and all. Reaching being the american way and all.
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    Aug 08, 2015 4:40 AM GMT
    'Stonewall' Director Addresses Controversy Surrounding Movie's Trailer

    The filmmaker promises that key historical figures, like Marsha P. Johnson, Sylvia Rivera and Ray Castro, will be in the film.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/stonewall-director-addresses-movie-trailer-controversy_55c4cf85e4b0d9b743dbdc1e
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    Aug 09, 2015 2:02 AM GMT

    Larry Kramer Speaks Out Against ‘Stonewall’ Boycott Efforts: ‘Don’t Listen to the Crazies’


    http://www.towleroad.com/2015/08/kramer-stonewall/


    I have not seen a film this controversial in a long time.
  • metta

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    Aug 14, 2015 4:33 PM GMT
    You have to see this parody of the Stonewall trailer
    Will the film be Roland Emmerich's 'next big cinematic disaster'?




    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/you-have-to-see-this-parody-of-the-stonewall-trailer/
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    Sep 22, 2015 4:45 PM GMT
    Stonewall Is Terribly Offensive, and Offensively Terrible

    "Turns out, Stonewall is perhaps even worse than some feared it would be—more offensive, more white-washed, even more hackishly made. It’s so bad that it’s hard to know where to begin a catalogue of the film’s sins."

    http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/09/stonewall-review-roland-emmerich
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    Sep 22, 2015 4:51 PM GMT
    First Reviews: 'Stonewall' Is 'An Embarrassing Punishment of a Film'


    http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/first-reviews-stonewall-is-an-embarrassing-punishment-of-a-film-20150918
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    Sep 22, 2015 4:57 PM GMT
    Jonathan Rhys Meyers “Totally Took Charge” Of Jeremy Irvine In “Stonewall” Gay Sex Scene


    http://www.newnownext.com/jonathan-rhys-meyers-totally-took-charge-of-jeremy-irvine-in-stonewall-gay-sex-scene/09/2015/
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    Sep 22, 2015 6:36 PM GMT
    metta saidStonewall Is Terribly Offensive, and Offensively Terrible

    "Turns out, Stonewall is perhaps even worse than some feared it would be—more offensive, more white-washed, even more hackishly made. It’s so bad that it’s hard to know where to begin a catalogue of the film’s sins."

    http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/09/stonewall-review-roland-emmerich


    For perspective, Vanity Fair is a tits magazine. They'd have no problem throwing gay teens under the bus to trash a director they don't like.

    Complaining that the main character is too good looking? Really. How is it that I don't recall anyone complaining when Patch Adams got an upgrade

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    Sep 23, 2015 6:38 PM GMT
    'Stonewall' Director Says He Chose A 'Straight-Acting' Character To Appeal To Straight Audiences


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/stonewall-straight-acting_5602bf50e4b08820d91af82d?di996bt9
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    Sep 24, 2015 3:49 AM GMT
    CODY4U saidNot really a fan of the half fact-based/half fictional accounts of actual events. It's kind of weird watching something that's been hyped as being based on a true story, and then you later read most of what you saw was totally made up. Kinda deceitful.




    Jack Dawson & Rose DeWitt Bukater. There were no such people aboard Titanic until the writer, James Cameron, added them into the story board & film, its really quite common in "true story" film making icon_rolleyes.gif

    There were many "real life stars" on board Titanic but in the highest grossing movies of all time, top billing went to a fictional couple. Why was no one outraged at this?


    If you want the real thing, stick to documentaries

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    Sep 24, 2015 9:37 AM GMT
    The critics from Rotten Tomatoes are tearing this movie apart. Not looking good.
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    Sep 24, 2015 9:49 AM GMT
    ELNathB said
    CODY4U saidNot really a fan of the half fact-based/half fictional accounts of actual events. It's kind of weird watching something that's been hyped as being based on a true story, and then you later read most of what you saw was totally made up. Kinda deceitful.




    Jack Dawson & Rose DeWitt Bukater. There were no such people aboard Titanic until the writer, James Cameron, added them into the story board & film, its really quite common in "true story" film making icon_rolleyes.gif

    There were many "real life stars" on board Titanic but in the highest grossing movies of all time, top billing went to a fictional couple. Why was no one outraged at this?







    Are you familiar with the word whitewashing? That's the main reason why people are pissed about Stonewall. As for Titanic, there were no heroes among the real life stars. Compared to the Stonewall event where critics are arguing that the person who threw the 1st brick is the person that should receive credit and recognition.
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    ELNathB said
    CODY4U saidNot really a fan of the half fact-based/half fictional accounts of actual events. It's kind of weird watching something that's been hyped as being based on a true story, and then you later read most of what you saw was totally made up. Kinda deceitful.




    Jack Dawson & Rose DeWitt Bukater. There were no such people aboard Titanic until the writer, James Cameron, added them into the story board & film, its really quite common in "true story" film making icon_rolleyes.gif

    There were many "real life stars" on board Titanic but in the highest grossing movies of all time, top billing went to a fictional couple. Why was no one outraged at this?


    If you want the real thing, stick to documentaries

    MPW-73783








    You beat me to it, and--because Americans--the grave of a J. DAWSON in the Titanic section of a cemetery in Halifax had flowers and teddy bears piled on it. The J. DAWSON on the Titanic was actually a stoker who probably bore very little resemblance to Leo DiCaprio, but why let reality ruin your day?

    The Titanic narrative even has a true gay sub-plot: Major Archibald Butt (stop it! listen first!) and his partner went down with the ship. President Taft commissioned a fountain near the White House in honor of the two men.

    Are the Lifeboats Seated According to Class?
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    Sep 24, 2015 9:21 PM GMT
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    ELNathB said
    CODY4U saidNot really a fan of the half fact-based/half fictional accounts of actual events. It's kind of weird watching something that's been hyped as being based on a true story, and then you later read most of what you saw was totally made up. Kinda deceitful.




    Jack Dawson & Rose DeWitt Bukater. There were no such people aboard Titanic until the writer, James Cameron, added them into the story board & film, its really quite common in "true story" film making icon_rolleyes.gif

    There were many "real life stars" on board Titanic but in the highest grossing movies of all time, top billing went to a fictional couple. Why was no one outraged at this?







    Are you familiar with the word whitewashing? That's the main reason why people are pissed about Stonewall. As for Titanic, there were no heroes among the real life stars. Compared to the Stonewall event where critics are arguing that the person who threw the 1st brick is the person that should receive credit and recognition.



    Excuse me, but "Molly" became a hero of such, among the socialites, she was the only one who was willing to go back and save lives, any lives. 1st, 2nd, 3rd class passengers, she didn't care! Imagine if her family or other socialite friends were to bitch about fictional people getting top billing in the highest grossing movie of all time icon_rolleyes.gif

    Margaret Brown was honored anyway without director James Cameron:

    A 1960 Broadway musical based on her life was produced, along with a 1964 film adaptation of the musical. Both were titled The Unsinkable Molly Brown.

    I think Marsha P. Johnson should also be honored, without director Roland Emerich:

    Oh, but wait a minute, there is already one, Pay It No Mind - The Life and Times of Marsha P. Johnson icon_rolleyes.gif
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjN9W2KstqE



    Margaret Brown
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Brown

    Margaret Brown (née Tobin) (July 18, 1867 – October 26, 1932) was an American socialite, philanthropist, and activist who became famous because of her survival of the 1912 sinking of the RMS Titanic, after exhorting the crew of Lifeboat No. 6 to return to look for survivors. It is unclear whether any survivors were found after Lifeboat No. 6 returned to search.[1] She became known after her death as "The Unsinkable Molly Brown", although during her life, her friends called her "Maggie". A 1960 Broadway musical based on her life was produced, along with a 1964 film adaptation of the musical. Both were titled The Unsinkable Molly Brown

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    Sep 24, 2015 10:31 PM GMT
    ^^ There was no alteration on how Molly Brown was presented. Also, her family is not going to bitch about the movie because it's a love story that happened to take place in a sinking ship. And why would the family complain about a movie that received top billing unless they're after some of the profits made?

    Honestly, I don't understand why you are so upset about this particular movie's criticism. It's just a movie! A lot of people from the asian community got upset on how whitewashed the movie "21" was. I didn't give a crap! It was a decent movie with mediocre acting.
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    Sep 26, 2015 2:39 AM GMT
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    Sep 26, 2015 4:06 AM GMT
    Erik101 saidThe critics from Rotten Tomatoes are tearing this movie apart. Not looking good.

    Yeah, every professional critic but 1 ripped it to shreds. As did most moviegoers. Some were proposing to nominate it for "Worst Movie of the Year." I see some "Razzies" potential here.

    I'm almost tempted to go see it, so I can add my own first-hand comments. But I don't want to enhance Roland Emmerich's box office.