Volkswagen Overtakes Toyota as World's Largest Automaker Through June

  • metta

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    Jul 28, 2015 9:52 PM GMT
    Volkswagen Overtakes Toyota as World's Largest Automaker Through June


    http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/research/volkswagen-overtakes-toyota-as-worlds-largest-automaker-through-june/ar-AAdBwdI
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    Jul 28, 2015 9:57 PM GMT
    I can't keep up with who owns what in the car world these days. Even the iconic British marques of Rolls Royce and Bentley are owned by BMW and VW respectively (though, thankfully, both are still made in England).

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  • Wendigo9

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    Jul 29, 2015 7:14 AM GMT
    I'm not surprised really, toyota's switched out to making plastic cars now, making VW a hell of alot safer too.
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    Jul 29, 2015 12:21 PM GMT
    Adjustments in market positions are beneficial for firms. It helps to keep them on their toes and encourages innovation.

    Toyota have been struggling for a while and, whilst the sales of many of their brands were necessary at the time, their loss of JLR has been a big hit. So this news is hardly surprising.
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    Jul 29, 2015 12:29 PM GMT
    Sparks saidAdjustments in market positions are beneficial for firms. It helps to keep them on their toes and encourages innovation.

    Toyota have been struggling for a while and, whilst the sales of many of their brands were necessary at the time, their loss of JLR has been a big hit. So this news is hardly surprising.


    Toyota never owned JLRicon_confused.gif Confusing Toyota with Ford?
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    Jul 29, 2015 2:06 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidI can't keep up with who owns what in the car world these days. Even the iconic British marques of Rolls Royce and Bentley are owned by BMW and VW respectively (though, thankfully, both are still made in England).

    Not in the case of Rolls Royce. I was just looking at the window sticker on one Monday. and it clearly stated 85% of contents were made in Germany. Only the assembly is done in Britain, along with the interior fitments. That's where they create the leather upholstery, folding cloth roof on the dropheads, and carve, finish and install all the wood trim. But virtually all running gear, most of the bodywork and other metal parts are German. It has a BMW V-12 engine, even if some of the external covers read Rolls Royce.
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    Jul 29, 2015 2:26 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said... and it clearly stated 85% of contents were made in Germany...

    automotive parts are generic these days and prone to all coming out of the same hut in Vietnam.

    you can only laugh at the oil field workers buying American
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    Jul 29, 2015 2:27 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    Not in the case of Rolls Royce. I was just looking at the window sticker on one Monday. and it clearly stated 85% of contents were made in Germany. Only the assembly is done in Britain, along with the interior fitments. That's where they create the leather upholstery, folding cloth roof on the dropheads, and carve, finish and install all the wood trim. But virtually all running gear, most of the bodywork and other metal parts are German. It has a BMW V-12 engine, even if some of the external covers read Rolls Royce.


    Or Bentley: The Bentley Continental GT and the VW Phaeton, for example, share the same German-built platform. I suppose it comes down to how you interpret the word "made". Assembly is everything with these cars and the important craftsman bit is still done in England. The Germans tend to be better on the mechanical side of things anyway.
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    Jul 29, 2015 9:41 PM GMT
    My neighbor always leases VW's every 2 years. She gets great gas mileage because the cars spend so much time on the back of a tow truck.

    She's had 3 EOS's since 2009 with broken retractable hardtops a total of 11 times as well as a variety of other problems.

    My 9yo Mazda Miata with a retractable hardtop has never had any problems whatsoever.

    I've owned 4 Miatas since 1989 and never had a single problem. I usually keep them for 100k miles. The only wear items have been brakes, tires and batteries.

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    Jul 30, 2015 5:20 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidMy neighbor always leases VW's every 2 years. She gets great gas mileage because the cars spend so much time on the back of a tow truck.

    She's had 3 EOS's since 2009 with broken retractable hardtops a total of 11 times as well as a variety of other problems.

    My 9yo Mazda Miata with a retractable hardtop has never had any problems whatsoever.

    I've owned 4 Miatas since 1989 and never had a single problem. I usually keep them for 100k miles. The only wear items have been brakes, tires and batteries.



    I've owned my MX5 from new for almost 7 years now. I had to replace a seized front brake caliper after 3 years and another after 4 years. The car is below average mileage and hasn't had any rough treatment. While in all other respects is has been a great car, the failure of these very expensive parts (which ought to have lasted for the lifetime of the car) means I would not buy a Mazda again. When I complained to Mazda, I got pretty short shrift ("tough luck" basically).