ATTN: NYC Gay scene...IN or OUT?

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    Jan 29, 2009 8:09 AM GMT
    Hello wonderful Real Jockers,

    I have been debating to myself for many months now on how the NYC club scene is doing. I graduated school in may of 08', and I came back to the city to find out that Avalon, Spirit, and the Roxy closed down. I wasn't devestaed cause I thought to myself, "self, there will be another club that comes, you will see." Well, it has been a couple months now, and I feel that the only major club being offered is like SPLASH, and I don't find that major at all. My investigating has brought to see little bars are doing it for the gays, which is cool, but I remember those days of go go boys everywhere, drag queens in amazing outfits, Trannies in really skimpy outfits, and levels upon levels of music and dancing. The night life of all in NYC , gay or straight, is still going strong, meaning everyone is sytill going out at night), but is the gay club scene dead? if so, do you think it is the economy, lack of interest, or do you totally disagree with me?....YOUR THOUGHTS PUTAS!
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    Jan 29, 2009 10:02 AM GMT
    Where the fuck is John Blair these days?
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    Jan 29, 2009 2:36 PM GMT
    I was listening to a podcast about this subject the other day and they were saying that the gay clubs, cruises and etc are having a hard time actually due to the younger generation and them being so accepting of gays.

    Because of this the gays feel comfortable going to the straight clubs and hanging out and whatever else. I know the gay club near me has changed quite a bit.

    It used to be as you described, go go boys, drag queens everywhere and etc. but now when you go you dont know whos gay or straight cuz half the dam bar are straight people...

    I think with the younger generation and the acceptance of gays and etc we are going to see more of this happening, which is good I guess but I kinda miss the good ole days...haha...i know im getting old.

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    Jan 29, 2009 2:42 PM GMT
    Every time I go to SPLASH It's almost empty! Just two or three cats there..dun no why icon_rolleyes.gif I went to Shelter once on a while I think it's closed too...
  • kaccioto

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    Jan 29, 2009 2:45 PM GMT
    in general big clubs/8th ave bars are out, but those were really never my thing..avoid weekends...but weekday nights if ya know where to go are definitely IN IN IN
  • DJZ77

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    Jan 29, 2009 3:18 PM GMT
    Franko85 saidHello wonderful Real Jockers,

    I have been debating to myself for many months now on how the NYC club scene is doing. I graduated school in may of 08', and I came back to the city to find out that Avalon, Spirit, and the Roxy closed down. I wasn't devestaed cause I thought to myself, "self, there will be another club that comes, you will see." Well, it has been a couple months now, and I feel that the only major club being offered is like SPLASH, and I don't find that major at all. My investigating has brought to see little bars are doing it for the gays, which is cool, but I remember those days of go go boys everywhere, drag queens in amazing outfits, Trannies in really skimpy outfits, and levels upon levels of music and dancing. The night life of all in NYC , gay or straight, is still going strong, meaning everyone is sytill going out at night), but is the gay club scene dead? if so, do you think it is the economy, lack of interest, or do you totally disagree with me?....YOUR THOUGHTS PUTAS!


    Yeah, it really does suck that all these great places were closed down. Oh and you forgot to mention Crobar. Nowaday's it's really hard to find anything that even compares to the Roxy. I LOVED the Roxy, it was huge and it was like going to a circuit party every fuckin' weekend. There are still parties going on in the city, but they can't compare. Now getting to your question... Nah, I don't think the economy had anything to do with them being closed. I'm pretty sure that it was due to all of illegal stuff going on at these places. I'm crossing my fingers and hope that something will open up soon. Mr. Black is about the only thing that's even worth mentioning. Have you been? Anyways, I'll catch you around and .... no soy puta, quiza perra sucia o joto mamón, pero no puta.. ja ja ja.

    -D
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    Jan 29, 2009 3:30 PM GMT
    Rest in Peace, NYC Gay Club Scene icon_twisted.gif

    I think it was only a matter of time before people got tired of standing on line in the cold for an hour, paying $20-$30 to just walk in the door, being packed in like sardines, and not able to get to the bar because it was so crowded. Or maybe that's just me icon_confused.gif

    I'll admit I do miss the Roxy, I used to go every Wednesday night for the Disco Skate
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    Jan 29, 2009 4:31 PM GMT
    A friend and I were discussing this the other day. Gay bars/clubs are closing left and right and there are several reasons;

    1. The internet has become the main place to meet other gay guys.

    2. Drugs are rampant in the gay community in a lot of cities and guys on drugs don't buy alcohol.

    3. As someone mentioned, gays are more accepted in straight bars and straight people are more comfortable in gay bars. So, there's no longer that distinction that keeps gay bars in business. They have to have something very special about them to stay in business other than just being a "gay bar".

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    Jan 29, 2009 4:34 PM GMT
    bars and lounges are the 'in thing' right now. clubs are old school... although i really like RUSH, dont know if its still open it should be, havent gone in so long...
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    Jan 29, 2009 5:46 PM GMT
    Am I the only one who's glad to see the death of "the scene"? I'm glad having same sex attractions are no longer a reason to have segregated facilities anymore.

  • treader

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    Jan 29, 2009 6:04 PM GMT
    If the NYC scene is 'dead', then Boston scene must be buried six feet under. When I visit NYC, your scene is miles above ours here. Had a blast dancing at the Eastern Bloc which had a great mixture of people and funky music although it's waaay too small (but we're used to that here in Boston). That's just my outsider perspective.
  • DJZ77

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    Jan 29, 2009 6:45 PM GMT
    Ok... let's get one thing straight (no pun intended). Rock and Ryan, we're talking about massive venues from years back. Nothing like what we have today. The whole club kid era (check out Party Monster to get a sense of what it was about). If you were around the club scene in the 90's, you would so have a different view on them. I agree, it's really cool that the whole segregation thing is being done away with, but sometimes I don't want to be around str8 people. In any case, you had to have experienced and lived it to understand it. OMG... I feel sooooo old now icon_eek.gif ... it almost feels like the first time some snot faced kid calls you Mister. Seriously though, no hard feelings and to each his own.
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    Jan 29, 2009 6:48 PM GMT
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    Franko85 saidHello wonderful Real Jockers,

    I have been debating to myself for many months now on how the NYC club scene is doing. I graduated school in may of 08', and I came back to the city to find out that Avalon, Spirit, and the Roxy closed down. I wasn't devestaed cause I thought to myself, "self, there will be another club that comes, you will see." Well, it has been a couple months now, and I feel that the only major club being offered is like SPLASH, and I don't find that major at all. My investigating has brought to see little bars are doing it for the gays, which is cool, but I remember those days of go go boys everywhere, drag queens in amazing outfits, Trannies in really skimpy outfits, and levels upon levels of music and dancing. The night life of all in NYC , gay or straight, is still going strong, meaning everyone is sytill going out at night), but is the gay club scene dead? if so, do you think it is the economy, lack of interest, or do you totally disagree with me?....YOUR THOUGHTS PUTAS!


    Yeah, it really does suck that all these great places were closed down. Oh and you forgot to mention Crobar. Nowaday's it's really hard to find anything that even compares to the Roxy. I LOVED the Roxy, it was huge and it was like going to a circuit party every fuckin' weekend. There are still parties going on in the city, but they can't compare. Now getting to your question... Nah, I don't think the economy had anything to do with them being closed. I'm pretty sure that it was due to all of illegal stuff going on at these places. I'm crossing my fingers and hope that something will open up soon. Mr. Black is about the only thing that's even worth mentioning. Have you been? Anyways, I'll catch you around and .... no soy puta, quiza perra sucia o joto mamón, pero no puta.. ja ja ja.

    -D


    Roxy was awesome... good times. Except the scary hookup area upstairs, lulz.

    I'm surprised no one mentioned Avalon sundays... =P
  • DJZ77

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    Jan 29, 2009 7:07 PM GMT
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    Devilboy77 said
    Franko85 saidHello wonderful Real Jockers,

    I have been debating to myself for many months now on how the NYC club scene is doing. I graduated school in may of 08', and I came back to the city to find out that Avalon, Spirit, and the Roxy closed down. I wasn't devestaed cause I thought to myself, "self, there will be another club that comes, you will see." Well, it has been a couple months now, and I feel that the only major club being offered is like SPLASH, and I don't find that major at all. My investigating has brought to see little bars are doing it for the gays, which is cool, but I remember those days of go go boys everywhere, drag queens in amazing outfits, Trannies in really skimpy outfits, and levels upon levels of music and dancing. The night life of all in NYC , gay or straight, is still going strong, meaning everyone is sytill going out at night), but is the gay club scene dead? if so, do you think it is the economy, lack of interest, or do you totally disagree with me?....YOUR THOUGHTS PUTAS!


    Yeah, it really does suck that all these great places were closed down. Oh and you forgot to mention Crobar. Nowaday's it's really hard to find anything that even compares to the Roxy. I LOVED the Roxy, it was huge and it was like going to a circuit party every fuckin' weekend. There are still parties going on in the city, but they can't compare. Now getting to your question... Nah, I don't think the economy had anything to do with them being closed. I'm pretty sure that it was due to all of illegal stuff going on at these places. I'm crossing my fingers and hope that something will open up soon. Mr. Black is about the only thing that's even worth mentioning. Have you been? Anyways, I'll catch you around and .... no soy puta, quiza perra sucia o joto mamón, pero no puta.. ja ja ja.

    -D


    Roxy was awesome... good times. Except the scary hookup area upstairs, lulz.

    I'm surprised no one mentioned Avalon sundays... =P


    What's up Rawr!

    There was also that corridor at the side, right below the freaky area you're talking about. I remember it being dark, with couches and guys doing all sorts of crazy shit in there. I stumbled in there by mistake one time and avoided that area from that point on. As for Avalon (Limelight, when I first went), yeah that was cool too. My friends and I would be like... "I feel like going to church"... ha ha. For those of you who don't know, Avalon was originally a church that was turned into a club. I know John Blair still promotes Splash, but who the hell wants to go there?!? That's like the official gay tourist hot spot in NYC. Although, it's great if you wanna hook up... seriously icon_rolleyes.gif . There is Pacha and Arena, but they cater mostly to the straights. I wait patiently for the rebirth of the NYC gay scene. * twiddles thumbs *
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    Jan 29, 2009 7:11 PM GMT
    The club scene here in NYC has really died down.... Like only good thing is StarLounge Snaxxx on Fridays and Hiro on Sundays(which is now 1Oak until Hiro re-oprens)

    But now it seems the gays have migrated from the clubs to the bars here in the city.

    Everything either gets shut down or raided for drugs when it comes to gay clubs (NYPD giggles)

  • kaccioto

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    Jan 29, 2009 7:35 PM GMT
    the best parties are the least advertised and aren't gay establishments per se ...ie if you live in ny you don't go to splash, it's mostly visitors

    lobby lounge at essex house used to have a sick wednesday night fueled with closet bankers and madison ave boys..

    however, like everything in ny, once zagat/everyone catches on, the original vibe dissipates and the party moves elsewhere
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    Jan 29, 2009 7:41 PM GMT
    kaccioto saidthe best parties are the least advertised and aren't gay establishments per se ...ie if you live in ny you don't go to splash, it's mostly visitors

    lobby lounge at essex house used to have a sick wednesday night fueled with closet bankers and madison ave boys..

    however, like everything in ny, once zagat/everyone catches on, the original vibe dissipates and the party moves elsewhere


    How closeted could they be standing in the lobby lounge?
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    Jan 29, 2009 9:56 PM GMT
    kaccioto saidthe best parties are the least advertised and aren't gay establishments per se ...ie if you live in ny you don't go to splash, it's mostly visitors

    lobby lounge at essex house used to have a sick wednesday night fueled with closet bankers and madison ave boys..

    however, like everything in ny, once zagat/everyone catches on, the original vibe dissipates and the party moves elsewhere



    I grew up here and remember hearing about all the huge megaclubs gay and straight. I feel like right when I was legal age to go to these clubs, the vibe started changing. Locals more interested in bars/lounges, while the out of towners were still trying to go the clubs. Eventually most of these clubs closed down anyway. NYC may not really be a huge megaclub spot anymore, but there's tons of options: bars, lounges and unadvertised parties goin on though. But like you said, once it gets printed in a magazine, the party moves elsewhere, while the tourists take over that old party as their new hot spot.
  • DJZ77

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    Jan 29, 2009 10:07 PM GMT
    WAIT... hold up... I just got an email... I know where I'll be going on Saturday night.



    So yeah, like others have said... It's not completely dead, just not what it used to be.

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  • D972

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    Jan 29, 2009 10:16 PM GMT
    Really depends on the type of party you are looking for. Yeah the clubs move around much.

    I do agree that bars are awfully popular now, and mini parties are held there (GYM, BARACUDA, RITZ (highly recommended on Friday btw)).

    I don't go out as often, but there are some BIG clubs out there...MR.BLACK, HIRO, and one that is thrown at Webster Hall (i forget the name).

    There used to be Shelter or CRASH. And if you are into segregated scenes (Only black, or only latino) send me a message, I get weekly emails about that.

    Anyways, why spend money at a club, you can dial-a-dick-or-ass from your bedroom computer and not spend a red cent -- if you are into that type of thing. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • styrgan

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    Jan 29, 2009 10:19 PM GMT
    The gay scene here is definitely more fractured than it ever has been. Instead of two or three megaclubs and a handful of bars, there are twenty smaller lounges and establishments. I think this is way better.

    There's been alot more mixed establishments opening up that cater to gays without being exclusively gay bars or clubs. Which I also happen to think is cool.

    We're all not alike, and we all have different preferences as to how we'd like to go out - as many forums on here have made clear. Why should the gay scene be one size fits all?


    Also, it's important to remember that many of the patrons of Roxy used to be Jersey boys. With the rise of clubs like Mix, Feathers, and Deko in Central Jersey, and the continuing beautification of Asbury Park, the Jersey crowd has a variety of choices now.

    Even in the outer boroughs. One of our lounges on the island has a gay night. Williamsburgh has been heavily built up as a new gayborhood with its own bars. There's no longer a need for everyone to flock to Manhattan if they want to have a night out.
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    Jan 29, 2009 10:44 PM GMT
    The NYC club scene has been over for years. I don't think there's a New Yorker who would disagree with that. Luckily, I took full advantage of it when it was in its prime. And, boy, did I ever take advantage of it. icon_cool.gif

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  • kaccioto

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    Jan 29, 2009 11:07 PM GMT
    styrgan said the Jersey crowd has a variety of choices now.



    as much as everyone in manhattan hates on dirty jersey those hoboken boys are mmmmmmmmm...now if only they had decent bar of their own..
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    Jan 29, 2009 11:41 PM GMT
    Dammit! I never got to see those crazy ass clubs of NYC!!!! Anyway, I am more fond of bars, but my curiosity will never be satisfied.
  • styrgan

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    Jan 30, 2009 4:55 AM GMT
    kaccioto said
    styrgan said the Jersey crowd has a variety of choices now.



    as much as everyone in manhattan hates on dirty jersey those hoboken boys are mmmmmmmmm...now if only they had decent bar of their own..


    Hmm. I think Hoboken does have a gay bar.

    And I agree Jersey boys are delicious. A little retarded though.