LEARNING about social psychology CAN MAKE YOU MORE LIBERAL

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    Jul 30, 2015 6:05 AM GMT
    http://theconversation.com/psychologists-are-known-for-being-liberal-but-is-that-because-they-understand-how-people-think-44066

    Psychologists are known for being liberal – but is that because they understand how people think?

    ...Formal surveys have produced similar results, showing the ratio of liberals to conservatives in the broader field of psychology is 14-to-1.

    Since then, social psychologists have tried to figure out why this imbalance exists....

    ...learning about social psychology can make you more liberal...
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    Jul 30, 2015 6:16 PM GMT
    Well then, by God, we have to defund social psychology school.
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    Jul 30, 2015 6:45 PM GMT
    lol
  • Hypertrophile

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    Jul 30, 2015 9:55 PM GMT
    It's like the old saying, if you're not a liberal in college then you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you graduate then you have a brain.
  • KissTheSky

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    Jul 30, 2015 10:35 PM GMT
    Better-educated people in general are much more progressive. One of the reasons conservatives are constantly trying to defund education in America -- ignorance is what keeps them in power!
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    Jul 31, 2015 1:00 AM GMT
    Thanks. Liberals running the mental healthcare system helps explain why the United States is frequently the country with the highest number of people suffering from some form of mental disorder, with around 27 percent of adults suffering each year.

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    Jul 31, 2015 3:02 AM GMT
    You probably have to be liberal first to want to learn about social psychology.

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    Jul 31, 2015 3:03 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidBetter-educated people in general are much more progressive. One of the reasons conservatives are constantly trying to defund education in America -- ignorance is what keeps them in power!

    +1
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    Jul 31, 2015 3:05 AM GMT
    desertmuscl saidYou probably have to be liberal first to want to learn about social psychology.

    Actually you have to be liberal first to want to earn about anything at all. Conservatives don't need to learn anything - they are born with all the answers, and learning new things is anathema to them.
  • oldfart

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    Jul 31, 2015 3:19 AM GMT
    Yeah "social" anything = socialist/liberal.

    Who needs other people?
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    Jul 31, 2015 4:17 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidThanks. Liberals running the mental healthcare system helps explain why the United States is frequently the country with the highest number of people suffering from some form of mental disorder, with around 27 percent of adults suffering each year.



    There are two problems here. One is the obvious post hoc fallacy. The other is the statistics. I've not found much to support the assertion that the US has the most incidence of mental illness per capita. There are no studies that ask the same questions about mental illness, ignoring such conditions as bulimia and attention deficit disorder, while other studies only look at spending as a gauge. He does seem to be right about it being around 27 percent.

    Still, there's no connection between the political views of doctors and the incidence of illness.

    Where I might expect to see this article used is in support of the argument that changes to the DSM-IV regarding homosexuality as a mental illness were merely politically motivated, and should be a non-starter here.
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    Jul 31, 2015 4:52 AM GMT
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_mental_disorders
    ...Mental disorders have been found to be common, with over a third of people in most countries reporting sufficient criteria to be diagnosed at some point in their life.[1] The World Health Organization (WHO) reported in 2001 that about 450 million people worldwide suffer from some form of mental disorder or brain condition, and that one in four people meet criteria at some point in their life.[2][3][4]

    World Health Organization global study[edit]

    The World Health Organization is currently undertaking a global survey of 26 countries in all regions of the world, based on ICD and DSM criteria.[5] The first published figures on the 14 country surveys completed to date, indicate that, of those disorders assessed, anxiety disorders are the most common in all but 1 country (prevalence in the prior 12-month period of 2.4% to 18.2%) and mood disorders next most common in all but 2 countries (12-month prevalence of 0.8% to 9.6%), while substance disorders (0.1%–6.4%) and impulse-control disorders (0.0%–6.8%) were consistently less prevalent.[6]

    The United States, Colombia, the Netherlands and Ukraine tended to have higher prevalence estimates across most classes of disorder, while Nigeria, Shanghai and Italy were consistently low, and prevalence was lower in Asian countries in general. Cases of disorder were rated as mild (prevalence of 1.8%–9.7%), moderate (prevalence of 0.5%–9.4%) and serious (prevalence of 0.4%–7.7%).[6]

    The World Health Organization has published worldwide incidence and prevalence estimates of individual disorders. Obsessive-compulsive disorder is two to three times as common in Latin America, Africa, and Europe as in Asia and Oceania.[7] Schizophrenia appears to be most common in Japan, Oceania, and Southeastern Europe and least common in Africa.[8] Bipolar disorder and panic disorder have very similar rates around the world.[9][10]

    However, these are widely believed to be underestimates, due to poor diagnosis (especially in countries without affordable access to mental health services) and low reporting rates, in part because of the predominant use of self-report data, rather than semi-structured instruments such as the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV (SCID); actual lifetime prevalence rates for mental disorders are estimated to be between 65% and 85%
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    Jul 31, 2015 4:54 AM GMT
    oldfart saidYeah "social" anything = socialist/liberal.

    Who needs other people?


    Oh you must mean all those non-sociopaths. They're so clingy!
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    Jul 31, 2015 5:33 AM GMT
    Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/10/only-six-percent-of-scien_n_229382.html

  • oldfart

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    Jul 31, 2015 6:03 AM GMT
    theantijock said
    oldfart saidYeah "social" anything = socialist/liberal.

    Who needs other people?


    Oh you must mean all those non-sociopaths. They're so clingy!


    You know how *they* are.
  • rdberg1957

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    Jul 31, 2015 2:11 PM GMT
    As a psychologist, all I can say is that most of the psychologists I know are liberal. When I was younger, the post-WWII generation of psychologists was also liberal, but there were more conservatives.

    Conservatives tend to have different ideas about what motivates people than liberals. More liberals are drawn to psychology because that is a major part of what psychology tries to do: study and try to understand the motivations of people and animals.
  • oldfart

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    Aug 01, 2015 3:54 AM GMT
    Rdberg1957 dear heart, you don't seem to get the logic here. But you're a shrink, which only proves the point.

    Liberal = invalid
    Psych = socio = liberal

    Your observations about your own profession only prove the point, even though they're also inherently invalid.

    In the 'conservative' universe, there is no moderation - only right and correct or wrong and invalid.
    QED
  • oldfart

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    Aug 04, 2015 5:30 PM GMT
    BTW I'm an accountant, and that's a (quantitative) social science. So my opinion is wrong too...