What do you think of this "miracle" weight loss program with NO EXERCISE as a requirement?

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    Jul 30, 2015 12:46 PM GMT
    So last year, my Mom told me of this diet program she heard about on the radio. It almost sounded too good to be true. They promise 20-40 pounds of FAT loss in just 40 days. If you don't lose at least 20, you get your money back.

    I made a consultation appointment where I had to go into Manhattan. They took my weight where they also got my BMI, cholesterol levels (I think), etc. Then, I had to put my hand on this "high-tech" scanner thing, where it supposedly checked for thousands of bio-markers that are "out of range" which can cause issues with metabolism, weight loss/gain, appetite, fat storage, etc.

    Supposedly the program is customized SPECIFICALLY to you. The "doctor" (actually a Chiropractor) came back in and explained to me that the program was $1897 if I wanted to make payments monthly, or about $1600 if I paid up front. I decided to do the monthly payments, and was told to go back the following week.

    I went back and they had a ton of supplements for me to take that were supposedly customized for me, due to the results of my body scan. I was told that I could only eat 400-600 calories per day, and the list of foods I was able to eat/not able to eat was VERY specific. I was also told that I was to use no oils, butters, etc with my food and I had to cook all meals in ceramic cookware. I was also told that I could not use any oils, lotions, etc on my skin unless they were on the list that they had given me.

    The interesting part of this, was NO EXERCISING was allowed for the duration of the 40 days. The first day of the program consists of "pigging out" and eating as much healthy fats as possible, but basically eating whatever you want. The hardcore dieting starts on day 2 and lasts until the end. They also promise NO HUNGER due to the supplements they give you, which supposedly tap into your fat storage and use that to burn calories and keep you from feeling hungry.

    They promise that this program will reset your "weight set point" and that the weight will stay off for life (you do have to do a "maintenance phase" after the 40 days though, and this supposedly lasts for about 90 days).

    I found the program a little difficult to follow so I got a refund (well most of it really). I'm thinking of trying it again because I think it is do-able if I commit myself to it, and I wasn't ready for it last year. The doctor gives you his personal cell and e-mail so you can text/call/e-mail him whenever you have questions. And I must say, I texted him a lot and he did respond very quickly and was helpful.

    I looked up the reviews on Yelp and it seems like people really did have success with it. It's called the "NJ Diet" although it's also known under the name "Nutrimost". It seems like doctors can "buy" this program/technology and sell it to their patients.

    Website and reviews are below. What are your opinions?

    http://www.njdiet.com/
    http://www.yelp.com/biz/nj-diet-clifton-2
  • jjguy05

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    Jul 30, 2015 2:25 PM GMT
    It's total bullshit.

    As for the yelp reviewers: many of them are fake. But I can see this program working on the morbidly obese. Caloric restriction alone should work on someone that's over 400 lbs, and that kind of weight loss for someone at that point shouldn't be hard. Even if they're getting "no exercise", getting up and walking around is indeed exercise.

    My verdict: this program is based on a tiny grain of truth (like many weight loss programs that are marketed), but you can do the caloric restriction on your own. The supplements and the "high tech scanner" and the cooking in ceramic cookware only is a bunch of bullshit.

    As for you, Ant811, someone that's not morbidly obese, this program would actually be hurtful to you. You don't need to lose 40 lbs, so your weight loss wouldn't be that great. And any weight you DO lose could very well be muscle. This diet will destroy you.
  • jeepguySD

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    Jul 30, 2015 2:39 PM GMT
    I'm not an MD, but this sounds gimmicky to me, and 400-600 calories a day sounds unhealthy at best, and maybe even dangerous. That's probably why they insist on no exercise: your blood sugar might get dangerously low.
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    Jul 30, 2015 3:00 PM GMT
    Sounds undesirable. Especially since that kind of weight loss would likely include muscle loss in addition to fat loss. icon_confused.gif
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    Jul 30, 2015 3:08 PM GMT
    I'm not sure exactly what Nutrimost consists of but here is something Mayo Clinic says about severe calorie limits:

    "However, diets that so severely limit calories have risks, such as gallstone formation, irregular heartbeat and an imbalance of electrolytes."

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/expert-answers/hcg-diet/faq-20058164
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    Jul 30, 2015 3:36 PM GMT
    400-600 calories? Of course your gonna lose weight. Any one will. And the supplements? Most likely vitamines etc like gastro surgery pt's get to keep their bodies healthy while they subsist on nothing.
    And of course they don't want u to work out. U will burn the 400-600 cals in no time.
    Bad program there mate
  • NealJohn

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    Jul 30, 2015 3:40 PM GMT
    Anyone who is lazy enough to want to believe something like this can work deserves what they get from it. There are no shortcuts.
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    Jul 30, 2015 3:53 PM GMT
    ant811 saidWhat are your opinions?
    My opinion is that you're lazy.
    The fact is you're misinformed about healthy weight loss...probably because you're too lazy to look up the facts.
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    Jul 30, 2015 4:21 PM GMT
    It's a bullshit program. You'll be short $1600. And maybe you'll lose weight, but it'll have nothing to do with the money you've spent.
  • Bunjamon

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    Jul 30, 2015 5:34 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio saidIt's a bullshit program. You'll be short $1600. And maybe you'll lose weight, but it'll have nothing to do with the money you've spent.


    This.
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    Jul 30, 2015 6:21 PM GMT
    1) you cant selectively loose weight due to fat and gain muscle mass. One or the other. ideal to gain muscle mass is to ramp up exercise all the while slightly gaining weight. Ideal to loose weight due to fat is get control of what you put in your face, dont eat and light cardio.

    2)keep track what you eat over say a week. calculate the calories of each item. If you eat less than 1800 calories you will be loosing weight. Looky at the list and eliminate those foods you dont like to eat till you have a 1799 calorie day. That day you will loose weight. Since your eating less eat better quality foods.

    3) no one in N America will die going on a diet but a 400 calorie day is unhealthy.

    4) its is important to develop functional diet skills. Dont expect your weight to remain constant and no healthy reason why it should. diet and the ability to control what you put in your face is an important life skill.

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    Jul 30, 2015 8:37 PM GMT
    My friends and myself went on the Paleo diet and lost around 5 lbs a week. The biggest loss was lost 65lbs. The fastest was 45 lbs in 4 months. The only cost was the food. It's a full fat and an all you can eat diet so it's no pain once you get over junk food addiction.
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    Jul 30, 2015 8:56 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidMy friends and myself went on the Paleo diet and lost around 5 lbs a week. The biggest loss was lost 65lbs. The fastest was 45 lbs in 4 months. The only cost was the food. It's a full fat and an all you can eat diet so it's no pain once you get over junk food addiction.
    I ate half a can of Pringles today...just after having my annual physical exam, where the doc told me I have the vital statistics and physique of an elite athlete.

    Then again I do eat mostly paleo, and enjoy the occasional "treat" just for shits and giggles.
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    Jul 30, 2015 10:22 PM GMT
    Nearly 2,000 dollars?

    I have to agree with the above responses. It is an expensive scam.

    There is no such thing as a "miracle diet." Physical exercise is the only way to stay trim, along with sensible eating.
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    Jul 30, 2015 10:35 PM GMT
    jjguy05 saidIt's total bullshit.

    As for the yelp reviewers: many of them are fake. But I can see this program working on the morbidly obese. Caloric restriction alone should work on someone that's over 400 lbs, and that kind of weight loss for someone at that point shouldn't be hard. Even if they're getting "no exercise", getting up and walking around is indeed exercise.

    My verdict: this program is based on a tiny grain of truth (like many weight loss programs that are marketed), but you can do the caloric restriction on your own. The supplements and the "high tech scanner" and the cooking in ceramic cookware only is a bunch of bullshit.

    As for you, Ant811, someone that's not morbidly obese, this program would actually be hurtful to you. You don't need to lose 40 lbs, so your weight loss wouldn't be that great. And any weight you DO lose could very well be muscle. This diet will destroy you.


    I do need to lose 40 pounds though. Probably more. I'm about 230 lbs right now (and yes the pics in my profile are all recent) and I'm only about 5'9". I got down to 200 a couple of years ago, mostly due to medication I was taking at the time (for ADD) that suppressed my appetite. At 190-200 lbs, some people said I looked like I had a big head lol. I guess I just naturally have a larger frame, so those scales that say I should be no more than 160 lbs at my height don't really apply to me.

    But I'd still like to lose at least 30 pounds. I've lost over 20 pounds this year alone (I was at my heaviest in January). It just seems really difficult for me to keep it off, and I find my weight always fluctuating.
  • buddycat

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    Jul 30, 2015 11:05 PM GMT
    I lost 50 lbs, didn't cost anything but the cost of a weight bench and stationary bike from a thrift shop. I had weights already, I think I bought them from a flea market since they are Billard and are antiques.. You should build some muscle, since they burn calories even when sitting still. I only changed one meal a day and cut out junk food. I ate muffins and cakes for breakfast to boot and pizza on the weekends.
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    Jul 30, 2015 11:41 PM GMT
    Chiropractors fall in the evolutionary scale somewhere between used car salesmen and child molester. None are to be trusted.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 31, 2015 1:36 AM GMT
    This so called diet program is a baseless crock of shit as well as a horrendous waste of almost $2000.
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    Jul 31, 2015 6:31 AM GMT
    CLTMike46 saidChiropractors fall in the evolutionary scale somewhere between used car salesmen and child molester. None are to be trusted.
    You just haven't found the right one. Mine is also a personal trainer who helped me lose 70 lbs and keep the weight off. That was in 2010 and I still use him 2-3 times a year.
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    Jul 31, 2015 12:08 PM GMT
    ant811 said
    jjguy05 saidIt's total bullshit.

    As for the yelp reviewers: many of them are fake. But I can see this program working on the morbidly obese. Caloric restriction alone should work on someone that's over 400 lbs, and that kind of weight loss for someone at that point shouldn't be hard. Even if they're getting "no exercise", getting up and walking around is indeed exercise.

    My verdict: this program is based on a tiny grain of truth (like many weight loss programs that are marketed), but you can do the caloric restriction on your own. The supplements and the "high tech scanner" and the cooking in ceramic cookware only is a bunch of bullshit.

    As for you, Ant811, someone that's not morbidly obese, this program would actually be hurtful to you. You don't need to lose 40 lbs, so your weight loss wouldn't be that great. And any weight you DO lose could very well be muscle. This diet will destroy you.


    I do need to lose 40 pounds though. Probably more. I'm about 230 lbs right now (and yes the pics in my profile are all recent) and I'm only about 5'9". I got down to 200 a couple of years ago, mostly due to medication I was taking at the time (for ADD) that suppressed my appetite. At 190-200 lbs, some people said I looked like I had a big head lol. I guess I just naturally have a larger frame, so those scales that say I should be no more than 160 lbs at my height don't really apply to me.

    But I'd still like to lose at least 30 pounds. I've lost over 20 pounds this year alone (I was at my heaviest in January). It just seems really difficult for me to keep it off, and I find my weight always fluctuating.



    Check out Robb Wolf's book The Paleo Solution. He actually lists everything to eat for 30 days as a Nothing to Lose (except mid section fat ) dare. Once your body switches from sugar to fat burning you will be lean for life.
  • LJay

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    Jul 31, 2015 10:48 PM GMT
    Ant11, look up The Zone Diet. My doctor enthusiastically endorsed it when I was diagnosed as a diabetic.

    Essentially, it helps you to figure out your ideal weight based on body type, height, etc., and then gives you tools to "eat down" to that weight. To put it another way, if you weigh 240 and you should weigh 185, you eat for 185.

    There are two books involved. One is theory and introduction, as well as analysis of your status and the other is a set of charts listing foods and helping you to portion them. The diet is low in fats, and balanced in approach to carbs and proteins. Seriously worth looking into and probably in your public library.

    And while you are at it, get into the habit of walking as much as you can.