Man Sues Airline Because of Obese Man Seated Next to Him

  • jeepguySD

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    Jul 30, 2015 3:44 PM GMT
    While this case might not change anything, I think anyone who has suffered through a flight with an obese person in the seat next to you can probably sympathize with the lawsuit. On more than one flight I have had to contort myself to avoid contact with an extremely fat person seated next to me who spilled onto my seat. On one flight the woman next to me was so fat, and spilled so far onto my seat, that we could not put down the armrest between us -- I was irate by the end of the flight.

    I hate flying on commercial airlines!

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/30/travel/etihad-airline-obese-passenger/index.html
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    Jul 30, 2015 3:54 PM GMT
    I hope he wins the lawsuit. People who are large enough to spill into a second seat should pay for a second seat.
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    Jul 30, 2015 4:17 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI hope he wins the lawsuit. People who are large enough to spill into a second seat should pay for a second seat.

    Agree. If someone needs a seat belt extender, then they should pay for a second seat. Airlines might offer discounts just as they do for companion travel. I wonder if there could even be a safety issue that the FAA might weigh in on, if you pardon the pun.
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    Jul 30, 2015 7:14 PM GMT
    Next time you have a very fat person next to you, pull up the arm rest between you and go get a flight attendant and tell them that you can't sit in your seat because of the fat person.

    I didn't even have to do that; I went to the aisle my seat was in and saw that I wouldn't be able to sit there and got the flight attendant and they bumped me to the next flight and gave me a voucher for $300. I was going to my brother's who lives outside of Las Vegas so there were flights every hour.

    Or they'll move you to another seat if there's one open; who knows, you might even get moved up to business or first class.
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    Jul 30, 2015 10:45 PM GMT
    I hope this person wins this lawsuit against an airline. These corporate giants only care about their bottom line. They have purposely redesigned cabin configurations to maximize the amount of passengers boarded, not for the comfort of any passenger, unless you have money and can afford their first class seating. Now to make everyone even more uncomfortable, the size of your carry on is set to get smaller. Soon, much like rides at a amusement park, passengers will have to meet "ride requirements" for height, width and weight, only for one simple reason, maximizing profit margins! FLYING TODAY SUCKS! icon_rolleyes.gif


    Flying Coach Is the New Hell: How Airlines Engineer You Out of Room
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/25/flying-coach-is-the-new-hell-how-airlines-engineer-you-out-of-room.html

    The rears of planes are becoming hell with smaller, harder seats to jam as many passengers in as possible. Meanwhile, first class has never been more opulent.

    Airlines could shrink carry-on bag size
    http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/10/news/airlines-baggage-size-iata/

    People flying on American or Delta Air Lines (DAL) would need bags roughly 20% smaller
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    Jul 30, 2015 10:52 PM GMT
    Sorry, this is what we are, to the airline industry, there is nothing here to indicate comfort of any kind icon_mad.gif


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    Jul 31, 2015 12:41 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    paulflexes saidI hope he wins the lawsuit. People who are large enough to spill into a second seat should pay for a second seat.

    Agree. If someone needs a seat belt extender, then they should pay for a second seat. Airlines might offer discounts just as they do for companion travel. I wonder if there could even be a safety issue that the FAA might weigh in on, if you pardon the pun.
    There already is a safety issue. The aircraft weight and "balance" (center of gravity) is calculated by an average body weight, varying only by gender. As more and more people become obese, these numbers become increasingly incorrect.

    However, as with most "potential" hazards, nobody will do anything until a plane crashes due to incorrect weight and/or center of gravity calculations.
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    Jul 31, 2015 1:15 AM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    paulflexes saidI hope he wins the lawsuit. People who are large enough to spill into a second seat should pay for a second seat.

    Agree. If someone needs a seat belt extender, then they should pay for a second seat. Airlines might offer discounts just as they do for companion travel. I wonder if there could even be a safety issue that the FAA might weigh in on, if you pardon the pun.
    There already is a safety issue. The aircraft weight and "balance" (center of gravity) is calculated by an average body weight, varying only by gender. As more and more people become obese, these numbers become increasingly incorrect.

    However, as with most "potential" hazards, nobody will do anything until a plane crashes due to incorrect weight and/or center of gravity calculations.

    I'm a pilot so I'm aware of weight & balance. Assuming the models do include some obesity (baked into the averages) with a generous margin of error about the CG as impacting the performance envelop.

    I was thinking more about the situation around the seat - problems getting out in an emergency, not being able to put the seat rest down, which I think is technically required for takeoffs and landings.
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    Jul 31, 2015 1:27 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    paulflexes said
    socalfitness said
    paulflexes saidI hope he wins the lawsuit. People who are large enough to spill into a second seat should pay for a second seat.

    Agree. If someone needs a seat belt extender, then they should pay for a second seat. Airlines might offer discounts just as they do for companion travel. I wonder if there could even be a safety issue that the FAA might weigh in on, if you pardon the pun.
    There already is a safety issue. The aircraft weight and "balance" (center of gravity) is calculated by an average body weight, varying only by gender. As more and more people become obese, these numbers become increasingly incorrect.

    However, as with most "potential" hazards, nobody will do anything until a plane crashes due to incorrect weight and/or center of gravity calculations.

    I'm a pilot so I'm aware of weight & balance. Assuming the models do include some obesity (baked into the averages) with a generous margin of error about the CG as impacting the performance envelop.

    I was thinking more about the situation around the seat - problems getting out in an emergency, not being able to put the seat rest down, which I think is technically required for takeoffs and landings.
    Actually the averages shouldn't "bake in" a number for obesity, because that wouldn't take into account the positioning of the obese people (most in the front or back). That in itself could create a huge disaster, as a worst case scenario of course.

    You hit the nail on the head about emergency egress, though. It would really suck to be "near" an exit, just to find out you can't get to it because of an incapacitated obese person blocking your way.
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    Jul 31, 2015 3:00 AM GMT

    ticket prices should be based on girth.

  • Apparition

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    Aug 01, 2015 2:18 AM GMT
    I am actually quite surprised the ticket price is not rated per pound. Step on the scale with your luggage and you are allowed 180 pounds and anything above that is so many dollars per pound.
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    Aug 01, 2015 4:03 AM GMT
    Apparition saidI am actually quite surprised the ticket price is not rated per pound. Step on the scale with your luggage and you are allowed 180 pounds and anything above that is so many dollars per pound.


    Your assumption is that height-challenged, fat-affected people won't spill over to the next seat.

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    Besides that 5 lbs of fat weighs less than 5 lbs of muscle, people aren't bags of broken potato chips, ya know.

    Seats are sold by volume.
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    Aug 01, 2015 5:28 AM GMT
    desertmuscl said
    ticket prices should be based on girth.


    If that were to happen you'd have the morbidly obese running around ranting they are paying for everyone else to fly cheaper.

    It will cost me close to 400% more to fly business class to visit my mother in France next month than to fly "coach"..... Each September when I make the flight, the disparity in airfare makes me want to scream until I see the conditions in coach. It is becoming the same conditions as slave ships of the 1700s crossing the Atlantic. They will soon be stacking them on shelves.
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    Aug 01, 2015 5:49 AM GMT
    desertmuscl said
    ticket prices should be based on girth.



    Actually, since fuel is the most important factor in airline economics, to be equitable, prices could be base on the weight of the passenger - a 300 lbs passenger would pay twice what a 150 lb passenger would pay.
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    Aug 01, 2015 5:59 AM GMT
    HikerSkier said
    desertmuscl said
    ticket prices should be based on girth.



    Actually, since fuel is the most important factor in airline economics, to be equitable, prices could be base on the weight of the passenger - a 300 lbs passenger would pay twice what a 150 lb passenger would pay.


    That sounds smart on a snails brain level... But what you are will be doing is empowering the morbidly obese fat asses to feel they are paying for everyone else to fly at cheaper rates... and "throwing their weight around" to get privileges... for being the fat subsidizers of skinny people flying with them...

    Think: Unintended consequences.