7,000 Lashes For Being Gay

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    Oct 05, 2007 3:29 PM GMT
    Saudi prison authorities began administering 7,000 lashes each to two men for being gay.

    Beginning this week, they have been dragged out into the town square and whipped in public. It has happened every day this week and will contiue daily until all 7,000 lashes have been administered to each man.

    I feel so helpless and wish something could be done.
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    Oct 05, 2007 5:28 PM GMT
    We have to let it go. The Saudis control the oil.

    Hmph.
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    Oct 05, 2007 5:44 PM GMT
    The good news is that this couldn't happen in Iran. Iran doesn't have the "phenomenon" of having homosexuals in it's country.icon_mad.gif
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    Oct 05, 2007 5:51 PM GMT
    What a fu*ked up world we live in.
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    Oct 05, 2007 5:58 PM GMT
    Well I'm sure the sadomasicistic few of us must be very happy as well as the ones who are also exhibitionists. You'vew been a very very bad boy NOw look at the camera while I whip you muahahahaha! AI PAPI! lol

    No they don't have homosexuals in Iraq just plenty of men who were supposed to be women because they have sexual feelings for men lol. So a few hundred thousand men get there dicks cut off tthanks to government funding by IRan WEEEEEEEE! Ouch!
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    Oct 05, 2007 6:10 PM GMT
    Thats just messed up.
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    Oct 05, 2007 6:13 PM GMT
    Unfortunately, something tells me we'll never escape that. Even when gays get rights, I bet society (including the now accepted gays) will just find some other group.
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    Oct 05, 2007 6:28 PM GMT
    That's just wrong...we live in a world of such ignorant people. icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 05, 2007 6:35 PM GMT
    We dont have to let it go. We can email our Representatives or MPs. Bring it to their attention that we are noticing this.

    Is there a link to an article reporting this?
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    Oct 05, 2007 6:36 PM GMT
    Caslon: No, we don't. We can do what you said. I guess you thought I was serious. I should have used the winky face.
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    Oct 05, 2007 6:46 PM GMT
    I wonder if their punishment would be less if they were g0y.
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    Oct 05, 2007 7:07 PM GMT
    McGay: WOW....thanks for sharing! The pathology of Ignorance - Religious ideologies must be the foundational bases for this TORTURE - My heart goes out to the 2 HUMAN BEINGS...their families and friends too!icon_cry.gif
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    Oct 05, 2007 7:11 PM GMT
    It is the same pathology.
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    Oct 05, 2007 7:57 PM GMT
    McGay - Why note forward your information to
    United Nations this is part of their responsibility to deal with HUMANITARIAN issues? Just a quick e-mail!
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    Oct 05, 2007 8:10 PM GMT
    I agree.

    I suggest everyone on this site send an email to the United Nations. There are over 80,000 guys on here, that's 80,000 emails, and if you get your friends and family to mail..........I think they will get the message.

    Mike
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    Oct 05, 2007 8:15 PM GMT
    Great idea - We should have one spokes person to represent all those on RJ that consent to such! McGay does have the INFORMATION/FACTS that he could forward...McGay where are you now -get over here!
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    Oct 05, 2007 8:22 PM GMT
    Actually, the 7000 lashes is widely regarded in much of the Arab world as a merciful and compassionate sentence.

    Gay men have been publicly executed in Saudi Arabia, where beheading is the primary method (much more merciful and compassionate than stoning which is today considered cruel and unusual punishment).

    Critics have noted that, in several Arab countries where it is punishable by death to be homosexual, men are accused of homosexuality for political reasons.

    Homosexuality is considered a grave sin. In Hadith, Muhammad clarifies the gravity of this by saying: "Allah curses the one who does the actions (homosexual practices) of the people of Lut," repeating it three times; saying in another Hadith: "If a man comes upon a man then they are both adulterers." Here, he considered homosexuality tantamount to adultery in relation to the Shari’ah punishments because it is an abomination on the one hand, and the definition of adultery applies to it on the other hand.....As for lesbians, Muhammad said about them: "If a woman comes upon a woman, they are both adulteresses." The homosexual receives the same punishment as an adulterer. This means, that if the homosexual is married, he/she is stoned to death, while if single, he/she is whipped 100 times.

    Both men receiving the 7000 lashes were married (both might also be political rivals - activists), and so deserving - under Shri'ah - of death.

    Had they been single, they might have appealed for a lesser sentance of only 100 lash's; something that is done quite frequently.

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    Oct 05, 2007 8:51 PM GMT
    EVOLUTION?
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    Oct 05, 2007 8:56 PM GMT
    Caslon, I read the the article on www.365gay.com this morning.
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    Oct 05, 2007 8:58 PM GMT
    ITJock: A "merciful" and "compassionate" sentence? It is manifestly not. It is a disproportionate response to an act that ought not even be a crime.

    The state of Saudi Arabia has a record for human rights abuses that rivals the excesses of the Roman Empire. And yet we still buy oil from them. And yet we still prop up their little tyranny. What hypocrites we are.

    I have already composed a letter to my MP in england and our Senator in Cleveland. Small words against a barbaric act.
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    Oct 05, 2007 9:08 PM GMT
    Why do people insist on reading something that I never wrote?

    I stated: "Actually, the 7000 lashes is widely regarded in much of the Arab world as a merciful and compassionate sentence. "

    I did not state that those were my personal views.

    Personally I find it to be unspeakably disgusting; but it is a product of their particular culture.

    I think it is wise to remember that things like this happen to everyone when religious extremists have their way, and democratic principles are ignored.

    R
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    Oct 05, 2007 9:13 PM GMT
    7,000 Lashes For Being Gay
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Oct 05, 2007 9:14 PM GMT
    TigerTim said,

    "A "merciful" and "compassionate" sentence? It is manifestly not. It is a disproportionate response to an act that ought not even be a crime."

    I second that.

    Mike
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    Oct 05, 2007 9:18 PM GMT
    ITJock,

    I know that is not you view, and would never think it was.

    I just agree with what Tiger said, not that that was you view.

    Mike
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    Oct 05, 2007 9:22 PM GMT
    You can help by walking tall, and believing in yourself, and showing the world you aren't a creep.

    Become pictured, and honest, and learn to like yourself.

    Be unafraid, and proud.

    Set a standard, and don't be an enabler for those who enable the misinformation.

    That's why it's so important to have a face, a name...to be "normal". It's all in the attitude.

    Sometimes, folks will ask me what "it" feels like (butt fucking is how they usual term it), and I take it away... I say..."It feels neato."

    Next item.

    Only by walking securely, and proudly, will positive change happen. Acting as an enabler only makes the problem worse.