Do you know any places where I can buy a desktop w/o an operating system?

  • metta

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    Aug 07, 2015 5:50 PM GMT
    Do you know of any good places to buy a desktop without an operating system. I need to get a new desktop that I can install Windows XP on?
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    Aug 08, 2015 1:34 AM GMT
    I used to build desktops from scratch. That's probably going to be our best bet.
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    Aug 08, 2015 1:51 AM GMT
    DIY. Or order one from Dell. On their desktops, you can configure with Linux, which is a $0 cost option. Or check Lenovo's outlet page. They sell overstock desktops and laptops, some without an OS.

    Why XP?
  • metta

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    Aug 08, 2015 4:03 AM GMT
    I have a custom program that was written with the old version of Visual Basic. My best friend wrote it but he died many years ago. So the format of everything works and runs on XP.


    What would be the benefit of using Linux?


    Everything seems to have Windows on it.
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    Aug 08, 2015 10:13 AM GMT
    metta8 saidDo you know of any good places to buy a desktop without an operating system. I need to get a new desktop that I can install Windows XP on?


    Any new hardware will likely present some level of issues with regard to memory management. It's usually cheaper to buy a bundled pc and just install the new operating on it, but, let me give you a much better solution, that's super easy, and allows you to seamlessly integrate with a newer host os.

    Go to Oracle Virtual Box Dot Org. http://www.virtualbox.org. Install the dangerous, unsupported, and archaic, Windows XP into a Virtual Box soft machine. It's get you going in nothing flat.

    There you go.

    It's all free, but, be aware, using Windows XP present a clear and present danger to your computer use. It's full of security holes.

    I run Windows 8.1 in a VM on my MAC, and we use Virtual Box, Vagrant, and Docker, all the time for "standing up" OS, and PaaS.
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    Aug 08, 2015 11:13 AM GMT
    I agree with all above... XP is going to create a massive security hole for you. Does your custom program need internet access?

    There are several ways to get an XP system running as a virtual machine in a newer, better PC with a currently supported OS.

    You can restrict the VM from having access to your network card, and keep it safely "offline". I strongly suggest going that route.
  • metta

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    Aug 08, 2015 3:47 PM GMT
    Thanks for the help everyone. I think I will try that virtual route. Other than needing to ftp updated web pages, I don't need to use the internet for this.

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    Aug 08, 2015 7:40 PM GMT
    metta8 saidI have a custom program that was written with the old version of Visual Basic. My best friend wrote it but he died many years ago. So the format of everything works and runs on XP.


    What would be the benefit of using Linux?


    Everything seems to have Windows on it.


    Uh, wrong! Everything has MacOS X on it, and MacOS X will run Windows if you want it to. One can switch between OS X and Windows with one click of the mouse, too. You could install Windows XP onto a Mac, as long as you have a Windows XP install disk, probably with very little difficulty.

    The easiest way to check this out definitively to see if your needs could be met would be to make a free appointment with someone at the Genius Bar at an Apple Store. Where you live there must be one convenient to you.
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    Aug 09, 2015 4:32 PM GMT
    Any Democrats house. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 10, 2015 2:38 AM GMT
    JonSpringon saidI agree with all above... XP is going to create a massive security hole for you. Does your custom program need internet access?

    There are several ways to get an XP system running as a virtual machine in a newer, better PC with a currently supported OS.

    You can restrict the VM from having access to your network card, and keep it safely "offline". I strongly suggest going that route.


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    Aug 10, 2015 2:49 AM GMT
    Another option is to get a consultant to upgrade your application to the current Visual Basic and just go with the modern stuff. It might save you much time and hassle in the long run.
  • Apparition

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    Aug 14, 2015 3:37 AM GMT
    just buy an old lap top for ten bucks with xp on it.