Are gay guys who state they want 'guys to seed them' suffering a distorted form of gender dysphoria

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    Aug 07, 2015 9:00 PM GMT
    I have noticed an increasing number of guys who stare they want to be seeded by one or many more guys. It is something the new Prep era has ushered in and while I acknowledge it's greatest prevalence is on hook up sights online, it almost sounds like guys wanting this want an experience similar to what a female in heterosexual couple looking to conceive would experience. Are these guys wanting to feel more like they are female not just a bottoming experience which is no less a manly act than topping or any other sexual act
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    Aug 07, 2015 9:16 PM GMT
    This is not news. (some) Gays having 'distorted form of gender dysphoria' are all around. From very fem guys to drag queens. The action of bottoming itself represents a guy taking the position of a female during sex. Some guys get off on that more than they'd like to admit, (others not at all).

    I don't think there is nothing wrong with that and I encourage all men to express themselves, but usually gays get all butthurt when you say this obvious conclusion out loud.
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    Aug 07, 2015 9:31 PM GMT
    It feels good.
    It makes my hole feel
    warm.
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    Aug 07, 2015 9:37 PM GMT
    It makes me feel attached.
    It's an emotional thing for me.
  • tazzari

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    Aug 07, 2015 10:02 PM GMT
    Are you perhaps confusing a silly and rather unfortunate phrase with a substantive psychological giveaway?
  • Chastize

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    Aug 07, 2015 10:15 PM GMT
    The answer is "no".
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    Aug 07, 2015 10:33 PM GMT
    David666k said The action of bottoming itself represents a guy taking the position of a female during sex.


    Wow, one of the most anti-gay comments I've ever heard from a "Bi" guy.

    It has nothing to do with being a woman! It isn't fems or drag queens. There definitely are 'butch' bottoms who are quite comfortable being masculine and being receptive.

    There's nothing obvious about it. If it is to you, you are mistaken.
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    Aug 07, 2015 10:43 PM GMT


    After all these years of condom sex, I now prefer watching bare back porno, which there seems to be more and more of these days. I think what you are referring to, is still something new to gay sex since the Aids epidemic started, that is cumming in the anus of the receiving partner while the receiving partner pushes out the deposited semen, on camera, in your face. (Felching?) We, as an audience, never have seen this in porn, not since the mid to late 70's.

    Those porno's were very cheesy, grainy picture and with horrible audio soundtracks. With todays HD, you can see close up semen during bare back sex. So bottom guys who now take semen are experiencing something we could not do 30 years ago. PreP may have something to do with it. I would like to start condom-less sex now as well, only with a monogamous partner or well known friends with benefits. I am curious to know what a load of semen feels like while bottoming. I already know what it feels like to top and cum. icon_redface.gif
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    Aug 07, 2015 10:44 PM GMT
    Sydneyrugbyjock73 saidI have noticed an increasing number of guys who stare they want to be seeded by one or many more guys. It is something the new Prep era has ushered in and while I acknowledge it's greatest prevalence is on hook up sights online, it almost sounds like guys wanting this want an experience similar to what a female in heterosexual couple looking to conceive would experience. Are these guys wanting to feel more like they are female not just a bottoming experience which is no less a manly act than topping or any other sexual act


    It's a new slang for something that has been going on since the beginning of mankind.

    This is just bottom shaming: "wanting to feel more like they are female." and "It is something the new Prep era has ushered in" is no better than Michael Weinstein calling PrEP users 'Truvada Whores'....more stigma from you!

    People who are having condomless sex ARE at high risk, one of the groups PrEP is for. So they don't become positive....do you understand that?

    I doubt it's just hook up sites. Couples do it all the time.



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    Aug 07, 2015 10:47 PM GMT
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    David666k said The action of bottoming itself represents a guy taking the position of a female during sex.

    Wow, one of the most anti-gay comments I've ever heard from a "Bi" guy.

    It has nothing to do with being a woman! It isn't fems or drag queens. There definitely are 'butch' bottoms who are quite comfortable being masculine and being receptive.

    There's nothing obvious about it. If it is to you, you are mistaken.


    1 - This is not anti-gay, at all. Men having fantasies (conscious or unconscious) to become women is very common. From 'straight' guys dressing up as girls, to gay men who act all girly in bed just for fun. To the ones that simply enjoy being 'treated as girls', having their partners take the 'male' rol while they take the 'female' one in a regular basis. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    Haven't you heard the overused term "man-pussy"? Or gays calling each other "she/her" all the time? Where do you think it comes from? There is clearly a latent desire to be regarded as women.

    2 - I clearly said NOT ALL men feel or act that way, so no need to take this as a generalization aimed at you. Also denying the obvious is a form of self-loathing from your part to your fellow gay men who do enjoy exploring their feminine side.
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    Aug 07, 2015 10:52 PM GMT
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    After all these years of condom sex, I now prefer watching bare back porno, which there seems to be more and more of these days. I think what you are referring to, is still something new to gay sex since the Aids epidemic started, that is cumming in the anus of the receiving partner while the receiving partner pushes out the deposited semen, on camera, in your face. (Felching?) We, as an audience, never have seen this in porn, not since the mid to late 70's.

    Those porno's were very cheesy, grainy picture and with horrible audio soundtracks. With todays HD, you can see close up semen during bare back sex. So bottom guys who now take semen are experiencing something we could not do 30 years ago. PreP may have something to do with it. I would like to start condom-less sex now as well, only with a monogamous partner or well known friends with benefits. I am curious to know what a load of semen feels like while bottoming. I already know what it feels like to top and cum. icon_redface.gif


    "pushes out the deposited semen" is above and beyond 'seeding' LOL! That's a group activity, or a multi-load.

    I have a friend who's screen name is "70's Style" as you allude to. We are both HIV/undetectable and serosort UVL:UVL.

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    Aug 07, 2015 11:00 PM GMT
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    David666k said The action of bottoming itself represents a guy taking the position of a female during sex.

    Wow, one of the most anti-gay comments I've ever heard from a "Bi" guy.

    It has nothing to do with being a woman! It isn't fems or drag queens. There definitely are 'butch' bottoms who are quite comfortable being masculine and being receptive.

    There's nothing obvious about it. If it is to you, you are mistaken.


    1 - This is not anti-gay, at all. Men having fantasies (conscious or unconscious) to become women is very common. From 'straight' guys dressing up as girls, to gay men who do it once in a while for fun. To the ones that simply enjoy being 'treated as girls', having their partners take the 'male' rol while they take the female one in a regular basis. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    Also haven't you heard the overused term "man-pussy"? Where do you think it comes from?

    2 - Once again you're making all this about you. I clearly said not all men feel or act the same, so no need to take this as a generalization aimed at you. Also denying the obvious is a form of self-loathing from your part to your fellow gay men who do enjoy exploring that female side of them.


    This is an ignorant, and VERY declarative statement :"The action of bottoming itself represents a guy taking the position of a female during sex."

    It sounds like some backwards sex book from the 50s. Bottoming doesn't represent anything. Maybe you want to be a women in bed. I've noticed that straight and Bi men are always bottoms with me. That they would want to feel like their wife is a straight constraint....not a gay one.

    I hate the term "man-pussy"....yeck!!! I prefer "manhole"
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    Aug 07, 2015 11:04 PM GMT
    David666k said
    timmm55 said
    David666k said
    timmm55 said
    David666k said The action of bottoming itself represents a guy taking the position of a female during sex.

    Wow, one of the most anti-gay comments I've ever heard from a "Bi" guy.

    It has nothing to do with being a woman! It isn't fems or drag queens. There definitely are 'butch' bottoms who are quite comfortable being masculine and being receptive.

    There's nothing obvious about it. If it is to you, you are mistaken.


    1 - This is not anti-gay, at all. Men having fantasies (conscious or unconscious) to become women is very common. From 'straight' guys dressing up as girls, to gay men who do it once in a while for fun. To the ones that simply enjoy being 'treated as girls', having their partners take the 'male' rol while they take the female one in a regular basis. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    Also haven't you heard the overused term "man-pussy"? Where do you think it comes from?

    2 - Once again you're making all this about you. I clearly said not all men feel or act the same, so no need to take this as a generalization aimed at you. Also denying the obvious is a form of self-loathing from your part to your fellow gay men who do enjoy exploring that female side of them.


    This is an ignorant, and VERY declarative statement :"The action of bottoming itself represents a guy taking the position of a female during sex."

    It sounds like some backwards sex book from the 50s. Bottoming doesn't represent anything. Maybe you want to be a women in bed. I've noticed that straight and Bi men are always bottoms with me. That they would want to feel like their wife is a straight constraint....not a gay one.

    I hate the term "man-pussy"....yeck!!! I prefer "manhole"


    ^ Deny and self-loathing. Way to go.


    You and Syd (who twisted 'distorted form of gender dysphoria') are playing psychologist and haven't a clue what you are talking about.
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    David666k said
    timmm55 said
    David666k said The action of bottoming itself represents a guy taking the position of a female during sex.

    Wow, one of the most anti-gay comments I've ever heard from a "Bi" guy.

    It has nothing to do with being a woman! It isn't fems or drag queens. There definitely are 'butch' bottoms who are quite comfortable being masculine and being receptive.

    There's nothing obvious about it. If it is to you, you are mistaken.


    1 - This is not anti-gay, at all. Men having fantasies (conscious or unconscious) to become women is very common. From 'straight' guys dressing up as girls, to gay men who do it once in a while for fun. To the ones that simply enjoy being 'treated as girls', having their partners take the 'male' rol while they take the female one in a regular basis. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    Also haven't you heard the overused term "man-pussy"? Where do you think it comes from?

    2 - Once again you're making all this about you. I clearly said not all men feel or act the same, so no need to take this as a generalization aimed at you. Also denying the obvious is a form of self-loathing from your part to your fellow gay men who do enjoy exploring that female side of them.


    This is an ignorant, and VERY declarative statement :"The action of bottoming itself represents a guy taking the position of a female during sex."

    It sounds like some backwards sex book from the 50s. Bottoming doesn't represent anything. Maybe you want to be a women in bed. I've noticed that straight and Bi men are always bottoms with me. That they would want to feel like their wife is a straight constraint....not a gay one.

    I hate the term "man-pussy"....yeck!!! I prefer "manhole"




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    Aug 07, 2015 11:10 PM GMT
    Porn industry jargon
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    Aug 07, 2015 11:22 PM GMT
    Taking "seed" is not gender dysmorphia nor does it represent being a woman.



    It's Body dysmorphic disorder and it's Gender dysphoria.


    Body dysmorphic disorder is a type of chronic mental illness in which you can't stop thinking about a flaw in your appearance — a flaw that is either minor or imagined. But to you, your appearance seems so shameful that you don't want to be seen by anyone.
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    the condition of feeling one's emotional and psychological identity as male or female to be opposite to one's biological sex.


    There terminology isn't even correct.

    The reason a man wants to take another man cum is for a variety of reason. It's the whole enchilada, 100% masculine man on man sex, cumming to completion is the sexual goal.

    If you want to fell like a woman, knock yourself out, put on panty hose and stilettos. I've got nothing against it. I don't shame, no judgement.....but when you declare dysmorphic it is an illness you (and Syd) don't know what you are talkng about.
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    Aug 07, 2015 11:34 PM GMT
    As usual, the "masc" (wink, wink nudge, nudge) crowd is offended by David666k. To be fair, I don't think that it's accurate to say gay men just want to be women. I know I don't. However, the insistence that bottoming is the most manliest masculine butch thing evar reminds me of the no-homo crowd from a few years ago. Most bottoms want to big virile top to dominate and penetrate them. And they want to please them, and in the case of the OP receive their load. That doesn't mean they want to get pregnant and have a vagina though.
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    Aug 07, 2015 11:38 PM GMT
    I agree with Joe on this one.
    I don't think because someone bottoms and wants to "be seeded"means they wanna be inseminated to get preggers.

    I think they just think it's hot when a load is dumped in their ass. They get off on knowing that a steamy, creamy load was just pumped into their ass. Hopefully, it'll be felched out and then they snowball eachother.
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    HottJoe saidAs usual, the "masc" (wink, wink nudge, nudge) crowd is offended by David666k. To be fair, I don't think that it's accurate to say gay men just want to be women. I know I don't. However, the insistence that bottoming is the most manliest masculine butch thing evar reminds me of the no-homo crowd from a few years ago. Most bottoms want to big virile top to dominate and penetrate them. And they want to please them, and in the case of the OP receive their load. That doesn't mean they want to get pregnant and have a vagina though.


    That's very different than making it an illness, as Syd did by using ' dysphoria"
    is a profound state of unease or dissatisfaction. In a psychiatric context, dysphoria may accompany depression, anxiety, or agitation. It can also mean someone that is not comfortable in their current body, particularly in cases of gender dysphoria. Common reactions to dysphoria include emotional distress or indifference. The opposite state of mind is known as euphoria.


    And combined with David's declaration "The action of bottoming itself represents a guy taking the position of a female during sex." He's talking about himself and projecting it to others.

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    Aug 07, 2015 11:49 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidAs usual, the "masc" (wink, wink nudge, nudge) crowd is offended by David666k.


    Any THINKING person should be offended by d666.
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    Aug 08, 2015 12:10 AM GMT
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    David666k said The action of bottoming itself represents a guy taking the position of a female during sex.

    Wow, one of the most anti-gay comments I've ever heard from a "Bi" guy.

    It has nothing to do with being a woman! It isn't fems or drag queens. There definitely are 'butch' bottoms who are quite comfortable being masculine and being receptive.

    There's nothing obvious about it. If it is to you, you are mistaken.


    1 - This is not anti-gay, at all. Men having fantasies (conscious or unconscious) to become women is very common. From 'straight' guys dressing up as girls, to gay men who do it once in a while for fun. To the ones that simply enjoy being 'treated as girls', having their partners take the 'male' rol while they take the female one in a regular basis. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    Also haven't you heard the overused term "man-pussy"? Where do you think it comes from?

    2 - Once again you're making all this about you. I clearly said not all men feel or act the same, so no need to take this as a generalization aimed at you. Also denying the obvious is a form of self-loathing from your part to your fellow gay men who do enjoy exploring that female side of them.


    This is an ignorant, and VERY declarative statement :"The action of bottoming itself represents a guy taking the position of a female during sex."

    It sounds like some backwards sex book from the 50s. Bottoming doesn't represent anything. Maybe you want to be a women in bed. I've noticed that straight and Bi men are always bottoms with me. That they would want to feel like their wife is a straight constraint....not a gay one.

    I hate the term "man-pussy"....yeck!!! I prefer "manhole"

    There is a big spectrum of preferences and behaviours in the gay community but you prefer to deny the existence of those who do like to explore their feminine side, rather than to reckon their existance, because that would mean that as gays you 2 would be part of the same group, and you can't accept that. You don't want to have anything to do with that kind of gays. You prefer to think "there are no such gays!", and live in denial.
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    Aug 08, 2015 12:22 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidAs usual, the "masc" (wink, wink nudge, nudge) crowd is offended by David666k. To be fair, I don't think that it's accurate to say gay men just want to be women. I know I don't. However, the insistence that bottoming is the most manliest masculine butch thing evar reminds me of the no-homo crowd from a few years ago. Most bottoms want to big virile top to dominate and penetrate them. And they want to please them, and in the case of the OP receive their load. That doesn't mean they want to get pregnant and have a vagina though.


    To say "gay men want to be woman" would be so simplistic and ridiculous as denying many do relate with what I previously said. Sexuality is not black and white, only someone in complete denial would reject the idea that some gays for one reason or another relate themselves to women. I agree with your basic description of what bottoms ussually look for, and while it doesn't necessarily mean they want to have a vagina, many times it's unconsciously (or not) related to taking the female role.

    It's funny some called me anti-gay when in fact It's them writing "no fems" in their profiles, not me.
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    Aug 08, 2015 12:35 AM GMT
    David666k said
    HottJoe saidAs usual, the "masc" (wink, wink nudge, nudge) crowd is offended by David666k. To be fair, I don't think that it's accurate to say gay men just want to be women. I know I don't. However, the insistence that bottoming is the most manliest masculine butch thing evar reminds me of the no-homo crowd from a few years ago. Most bottoms want to big virile top to dominate and penetrate them. And they want to please them, and in the case of the OP receive their load. That doesn't mean they want to get pregnant and have a vagina though.


    To say "gay men want to be woman" would be so simplistic and ridiculous like denying many do relate with what I previously said. Sexuality is not black and white, only someone in complete denial would reject the idea that some gays for one reason or another relate themselves to women.

    Also the type like Tim are the ones that discriminate fems the most. It's funny some called me anti-gay when in fact Im the opposite of what a real anti-gays is.

    You're like the Don Draper of SSA tops. (He's the quasi misogynistic studly protagonist of Mad Men.) He loves women but he is a womanizer. I realize you do appreciate fem gay men, and that's actually a breath of fresh air, but the trouble is that fem gay men are often unloved or don't love themselves, so they end up despising/distancing themselves from the whole notion that a lot of gay men are fem, even though that's the reality on the ground.
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    Aug 08, 2015 12:38 AM GMT
    ^ And that's my point. That self-loath you talk about is what makes most gay men (fem or not) to act all defensive and butthurt every time someone speaks out loud of this basic notion about the gays-female relation.
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    Aug 08, 2015 12:57 AM GMT
    And I like seeding. I'll never forget one of my "Eureka!" moments, the first time a guy swallowed my seed. Not only the greatest compliment of my life but it seemed to switch on some biological imperative to share my dna.