Secretly Taped Job Interview May Offer Disturbing Reason Why Man Didn't Get Job

  • metta

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    Aug 08, 2015 5:17 AM GMT
    Secretly Taped Job Interview May Offer Disturbing Reason Why Man Didn't Get Job

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-gay-job-interview_55c4b2d7e4b0923c12bc76c9
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    Aug 08, 2015 5:38 AM GMT
    The translation thing was totally fucking horrifying. Like, it sucks more balls than a Powerball machine when the jackpot hits 9 figures.

    However...when he mentioned his bf and him getting a new apt together and the interview gets canceled on THAT note, that totally changes the entire atmosphere of the interview.

    At first I was thinking this dude is just some loser who can't keep a job anyway. The interviewer was probably thinking the same thing. But to end the interview right after he mentions his living arrangement is HORRIBLE timing!

    Personally I would not hire this guy (based on many variables, of course); but whoever did that interview should be fired, or at least removed from the interview process.
  • jeepguySD

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    Aug 08, 2015 3:20 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidThe translation thing was totally fucking horrifying. Like, it sucks more balls than a Powerball machine when the jackpot hits 9 figures.

    However...when he mentioned his bf and him getting a new apt together and the interview gets canceled on THAT note, that totally changes the entire atmosphere of the interview.

    At first I was thinking this dude is just some loser who can't keep a job anyway. The interviewer was probably thinking the same thing. But to end the interview right after he mentions his living arrangement is HORRIBLE timing!

    Personally I would not hire this guy (based on many variables, of course); but whoever did that interview should be fired, or at least removed from the interview process.


    Actually, there were two different men being interviewed: one who was qualified and had previous experience in the same (or similar) job, but who was literally shown the door when he mentioned his boyfriend. The other who was not qualified, unemployed with no experience, who then was offered the job and told that he was the "best" who was interviewed.

    It was clearly set up to test whether a less qualified straight man would be hired instead of a more qualified gay man.
  • Buddha

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    Aug 08, 2015 4:37 PM GMT
    Yeah this is a group of people in Sweden who do social experiments. The background was that a guy e-mailed them and said that he thinks he got fired from his job once his boss found out he was gay (the guy who e-mailed, not the boss). I'll retell how I read it, since as you say, the translation isn't that good and some of the things that come accross as rude or polite don't come accross that well just with text.

    To test his theory, both of them got interviews for one job at the company. It's some kind of trucker-storage-thing job. One of them said he has no working experience, lives in his parent's basement playing FIFA, and when asked if he has a license to drive a pitch-fork, he says something that's quite rude like "well I figured you'd pay for it".

    The other guy is over-qualified, has the license, the experience, the works. I notice that a lot of English-speakers react to the fact that he says he has a boyfriend and think it's over the top.

    I just have to point something out here: the first time he says "Jag och min kille", which translated to "My guy and I". It sounds a bit weird in English, calling your boyfriend "kille" (guy), is a very casual way of referring to your partner. But is undoubtely your partner. It's like saying "My boo and I", it's casual but still implies lover-partner.

    When the interviewer hears this, he says "W... what did you say?", and THEN the guy clarifies by saying "Ja jag och min pojkvän", translating to "My boyfriend and I". Because pojkvän is the exact translation of boyfriend, and it is a bit more "heavy", it has a bit more weight to it.

    I don't know how it is in other countries, but in Sweden it's very common for people to talk about things that they do with their partners or families at work, even at interviews. Like if I were straight, no one in Sweden would react to if I said "My girlfriend and I just bought a cat" or "My girlfriend and I just bought an apartment" at work. They'd be happy for us, but they wouldn't think about the pronouns.

    Honestly, personally I've often casually mentioned that I have boyfriend in similiar ways at work, and I've never had any problems with it. Homophobia exists in Sweden but not to that big of a degree, but it is growing along with extreme right-wing-parties getting more popular.
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    Aug 08, 2015 5:55 PM GMT
    17K...is that Krona or Euros or USD? Yearly or monthly?

    A 1 bedroom is 2000 a month...icon_rolleyes.gif
  • stratavos

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    Aug 08, 2015 7:16 PM GMT
    That's pretty despicable. Hire the best candidate for the job.
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    Aug 08, 2015 7:48 PM GMT
    The world is just unfair. I mean, I don't think the hiring manager will just come out to say *I didn't hire this guy because of XYZ**. Furthermore, it's more like a hs contest, people kiss ass and get hired based on their *personality or whatever too. SOmetimes, too much experience is a negative trait.
  • highforthis

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    Aug 08, 2015 8:13 PM GMT
    Clearly too much experience has no bearing on the guy's decision
  • Buddha

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    Aug 08, 2015 8:52 PM GMT
    LAXWill10 saidThe world is just unfair. I mean, I don't think the hiring manager will just come out to say *I didn't hire this guy because of XYZ**. Furthermore, it's more like a hs contest, people kiss ass and get hired based on their *personality or whatever too. SOmetimes, too much experience is a negative trait.


    He didn't in the phonecall, but ever since the video went viral, he said that after seeing it he realized that he did wrong (he was completely anonymous but I guess he has some consciousness). The guy who was fired has been offered his job back, and he said he wants to start working on this issue in his company.
  • ASHDOD

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    Aug 08, 2015 9:47 PM GMT


    they really tried to send the best loser to the interview hahaha, i play FIFA,i stay a lot at home,and they took him! i guess he breathes ,.that's enough, apart from not being gay his ''only'' quality.......
  • waccamatt

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    Aug 09, 2015 1:07 AM GMT
    It's a sobering thought that, even in a liberal country like Sweden, blatant discrimination is still a fact of life.
  • conservativej...

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    Aug 09, 2015 4:45 PM GMT
    Personal preference is something that rarely if ever changes, even in Sweden. That preference may be for gay men, straight men, or even bull dyke lesbians, but it exists when interviewing in all parts of the world. There is rarely any action taken in any European nation when an employer exerts its preference. After all in a free nation one can sometimes express one's preference when hiring.

    Sad -- and bad -- but true.
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    Aug 09, 2015 5:39 PM GMT
    Buddha said
    LAXWill10 saidThe world is just unfair. I mean, I don't think the hiring manager will just come out to say *I didn't hire this guy because of XYZ**. Furthermore, it's more like a hs contest, people kiss ass and get hired based on their *personality or whatever too. SOmetimes, too much experience is a negative trait.


    He didn't in the phonecall, but ever since the video went viral, he said that after seeing it he realized that he did wrong (he was completely anonymous but I guess he has some consciousness). The guy who was fired has been offered his job back, and he said he wants to start working on this issue in his company.

    "he was completely anonymous but I guess he has some conciousness."
    It could also be that the manager afraid the employees and other managers would got wind about this issue and think negatively about this manager. So the damage control that he did, could be because he was afraid of the repercussion of being known publicly as a homophobe.

    "he said he wants to start working on this issue in his company."
    by "he", I assume the manager? not the higher up directors? Then the issue probably is not the company, it's him, he's the homophobe, he's the issue.