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    Aug 10, 2015 10:02 AM GMT
    Is it possible that Trump is a left wing plant sent here to disrupt the Republican Primaries?

    http://thehill.com/opinion/brent-budowsky/250445-brent-budowsky-is-trump-a-clinton-plant

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    "Tongues are wagging throughout the world of political insiders with news that former president and potential future first gentleman Bill Clinton had a great chat with Donald Trump shortly before the real estate magnate announced his candidacy for president. Could it be possible that Trump is a plant for Bill and Hillary Clinton in the presidential campaign, encouraged to run in the GOP primary in order to wreak havoc on the Republicans?

    Trump has a history. He has donated substantial money, to his credit, to the Clinton Foundation. He was an important supporter of Hillary Clinton for president in 2008, and was a notable donor to her campaign that year. In the past Trump has offered very high praise for the former secretary of State — especially when he was supporting and helping to fund her presidential campaign in 2008.

    To his great credit, Trump has long been a supporter of single-payer healthcare, and at various times has raved about the excellent healthcare provided by single-payer plans in two nations at the forefront of this cause. He has offered high praise for the Canadian system, and earlier this year offered similarly high praise for the single-payer system in Scotland.

    The Wall Street Journal recently ran a story naming a number of Democrats in Congress to whom Trump has donated campaign money in support, most notably the next Senate Democratic leader, New York Sen. Charles Schumer. Democrats were also delighted when Trump made campaign donations in support of Nevada Sen. Harry Reid, the current Senate Democratic leader, and Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.), a stalwart in the House of Representatives.

    I would be remiss in not including two other names on The Wall Street Journal list of Democrats who were beneficiaries of campaign donations from Trump: The late and great Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), and former Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.).

    This is the context for the widely discussed conversation between Bill Clinton and Donald Trump shortly before Trump announced his candidacy. What could Trump do in the campaign that would help the Clintons the most? First, he would personally attack leading GOP candidates in 2016, using derisive language that would almost surely find its way into Hillary Clinton campaign ads if she were to become the Democratic nominee. Check that box, right? Next, Trump could deeply offend Hispanic voters who widely respect Hillary Clinton already. Check that box, too!

    Similarly, if Trump tied the GOP in knots by prolonging the Republican nominating process, and prolonged the process of Republicans attacking Republicans, that would be a huge benefit for Hillary Clinton. Check that box. And to the degree that newer faces in the Republican Party who could become the strongest challengers to the Democratic nominee in November, such as Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), found their message drowned out by Trump, the big winner would be Hillary Clinton! Check that box, too.

    Of course the grand slam for Hillary Clinton would be if Donald Trump were to run as a third-party candidate in 2016. Remember how H. Ross Perot running in 1992 was vital to the election of Bill Clinton and set the stage for his highly successful and fondly remembered two-term presidency? It would be highly unlikely that this box will ultimately be checked by Team Clinton, but stranger things have happened.

    Does this suggest that Donald Trump is a Clinton plant in the current campaign? Of course not, but my tongue is only halfway planted in my cheek by raising this thought, which is delightful for Democrats and deep down must be scary for Republicans.

    Whatever Trump’s motivations for entering the 2016 campaign, had Bill Clinton been planting sweet thoughts in his ear before he decided to run, they would have been thoughts about what Trump should do that would help Hillary Clinton the most — the exact things that Trump has indeed been doing!

    As for Trump’s long-term praise of single-payer healthcare and his words of praise and donations of support to the Clinton Foundation, Hillary Clinton in 2008, Schumer, Reid, Kennedy, Rangel and Weiner, among others, I would respectfully suggest this: The most interesting presidential debates are not between Trump and the other GOP candidates, but between what Trump says today and what this candidate who claims to “tell it like it is” has said and done over the last three decades!"
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    Aug 10, 2015 10:04 AM GMT
    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ed-klein-bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/2015/08/09/id/669253/
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    Aug 10, 2015 10:56 AM GMT
    If Trump somehow became the nominee and somehow got elected, he would have to divest himself from his businesses and holdings. He's far too much of a control freak to do something like that.

    Sumthin up.
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    Aug 10, 2015 1:03 PM GMT
    There's no shortage of highly imaginative minds in the political arena.
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    Aug 10, 2015 1:08 PM GMT
    Probably "the Donald" has a quiet, gradual plan to bring the GOP to the center by purging it of all the narrow minded bible thumping screwballs which would be a very welcome development.icon_idea.gif
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    Aug 10, 2015 2:47 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidProbably "the Donald" has a quiet, gradual plan to bring the GOP to the center by purging it of all the narrow minded bible thumping screwballs which would be a very welcome development.icon_idea.gif


    Can't believe you use the word "the Donald" and "quiet" in the same paragraph.
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    Aug 10, 2015 3:06 PM GMT
    Donald Trump, or "Mr.President" to you, sounds just like Ted Cruz without the fake religiosity.

    He's very consistent with the opinions held by the majority of Republicans.

    He may embarrass certain Republicans who'd like to believe their party is more refined than it actually is.
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    Aug 10, 2015 3:12 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidThere's no shortage of highly imaginative minds in the political arena.


    This one 'The Donald' is far far from that.

    This is closer

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422298/Trump-the-teenage-bully
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    Aug 10, 2015 3:31 PM GMT
    The same Republicans who were so proud of Sarah Palin are now embarrassed by Donald Trump.

    To paraphrase Rumsfeld:

    You go into an election with the party you have, not the one you'd wish to have.

    FOX has given you the naive voters you now have. Deal With It.
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    Aug 10, 2015 5:12 PM GMT
    What was that conservative complaint we sometimes read on this forum about liberals denying freedom of speech?

    Oh, that's right, it was hypocritical bullshit.

    Allow me to remedy:

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4094673

    theantijock saidNo need. Everyone could already see that your clown car was full.

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    Aug 10, 2015 5:15 PM GMT
    more from the thread

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4094673

    now with a mere period for a title instead of its original title, the same as this thread (how fucking lame! lolol)

    theantijock said
    freedomisntfree said

    who's that, your fox moderator?

    Yeah, right, like anyone needed to put forth effort to place a plant. If so it's a hanging plant. Takes no effort at all. We just let out enough rope.
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    The Republican Party tends the seeds it's sown
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    Aug 10, 2015 5:25 PM GMT
    A Republican Plant
    http://io9.com/5795114/the-most-disgusting-flower-in-the-world-is-about-to-bloom
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    Look! Another Republican Plant
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    Aug 10, 2015 6:42 PM GMT
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    Aug 11, 2015 2:25 AM GMT
    theantijock saidA Republican Plant
    http://io9.com/5795114/the-most-disgusting-flower-in-the-world-is-about-to-bloom
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    Look! Another Republican Plant
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