Three More Black Trans Women Reported Murdered

  • metta

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    Aug 17, 2015 4:02 AM GMT
    Three More Black Trans Women Reported Murdered

    This brings the sad total to 16 transgender Americans reported murdered this year.


    http://www.advocate.com/transgender/2015/08/16/three-more-black-trans-women-reported-murdered


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    Aug 17, 2015 2:25 PM GMT
    Where are Jesse and Al on this one?
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    Aug 17, 2015 2:34 PM GMT
    The ones I know of that get beaten up are the ones who try and trick straight men into fucking them. Once they find out they were tricked, they can understandably turn violent. Not sure if that's what happened in these cases but it's very common where I live.
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    Aug 17, 2015 2:45 PM GMT
    Radd saidThe ones I know of that get beaten up are the ones who try and trick straight men into fucking them. Once they find out they were tricked, they can understandably turn violent. Not sure if that's what happened in these cases but it's very common where I live.


    I suppose it's all of a pattern. Horny, promiscuous guys go out looking to get laid, get in bed w/ someone they barely know, and then get pissed off and violent when they don't get their way. Mindless, low-life actions across the board. Maybe that's why adultery is among the Ten Commandments.
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    Aug 17, 2015 4:30 PM GMT
    If your trick has an Adam's apple she's probably has Adam's dick too.
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    Aug 17, 2015 5:47 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidIf your trick has an Adam's apple she's probably has Adam's dick too.


    Prominent Adam's Apples are more common in men, but women also have them and some are prominent.
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    Aug 17, 2015 6:30 PM GMT
    Radd saidThe ones I know of that get beaten up are the ones who try and trick straight men into fucking them. Once they find out they were tricked, they can understandably turn violent. Not sure if that's what happened in these cases but it's very common where I live.


    Of course such trickery is unacceptable, but obviously murder is far worse and being tricked cannot be used to excuse murder.
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    Aug 17, 2015 6:33 PM GMT
    FRE0 said
    Radd saidThe ones I know of that get beaten up are the ones who try and trick straight men into fucking them. Once they find out they were tricked, they can understandably turn violent. Not sure if that's what happened in these cases but it's very common where I live.


    Of course such trickery is unacceptable, but obviously murder is far worse and being tricked cannot be used to excuse murder.


    +1
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    Aug 17, 2015 6:39 PM GMT
    FRE0 said
    Radd saidThe ones I know of that get beaten up are the ones who try and trick straight men into fucking them. Once they find out they were tricked, they can understandably turn violent. Not sure if that's what happened in these cases but it's very common where I live.


    Of course such trickery is unacceptable, but obviously murder is far worse and being tricked cannot be used to excuse murder.



    Of course. But you have to use some common sense. If you're out there tricking straight guys and fucking with their heads, you're eventually going to come across one that's going to beat your ass (or worse) when they find out they just had sex with a dude. I know if somehow a woman were to trick me into thinking I was having sex with a guy, I'd fuck the bitch up. It's just wrong to trick someone into having engaging in sex in a way that is unnatural to them.
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    Aug 17, 2015 7:11 PM GMT
    I haven't seen any study that has shown that these people are being killed because they did not tell the other person that they are transgender. I don't think it is fair to assume that without data to back that up.

    "A transgender woman was killed and no one knows why."

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/15/phoenix-woman-kandis-capri-transgender-murder


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    This is no different than the 'gay panic' defense.
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    Aug 17, 2015 7:13 PM GMT
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    UndercoverMan saidIf your trick has an Adam's apple she's probably has Adam's dick too.


    Prominent Adam's Apples are more common in men, but women also have them and some are prominent.


    That's why the use of the word PROBABLY. Besides, who wants a woman with a larger Adam's Apple as their own. Ann Colter's Adam's Apple is gross.
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    Aug 17, 2015 7:16 PM GMT
    metta8 said
    FRE0 said
    Radd saidThe ones I know of that get beaten up are the ones who try and trick straight men into fucking them. Once they find out they were tricked, they can understandably turn violent. Not sure if that's what happened in these cases but it's very common where I live.


    Of course such trickery is unacceptable, but obviously murder is far worse and being tricked cannot be used to excuse murder.


    +1


    I don't think anyone here said murder was OK.
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    Aug 17, 2015 7:31 PM GMT
    FRE0 said
    Radd saidThe ones I know of that get beaten up are the ones who try and trick straight men into fucking them. Once they find out they were tricked, they can understandably turn violent. Not sure if that's what happened in these cases but it's very common where I live.

    Of course such trickery is unacceptable, but obviously murder is far worse and being tricked cannot be used to excuse murder.

    Which brings us to the "gay panic" defense. Which was used successfully for years to exonerate killers of drag queens and trannies, or just to excuse beating-up gay men. Less effective in US courts today, but still attempted by defense attorneys.
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    Aug 18, 2015 4:35 AM GMT
    MGINSD saidWhere are Jesse and Al on this one?


    Where are you? What do you do besides complain?

    I've seen some hateful threads on this site before, but this takes the cake.
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    Aug 18, 2015 9:09 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    roddenshaw said
    UndercoverMan saidIf your trick has an Adam's apple she's probably has Adam's dick too.


    Prominent Adam's Apples are more common in men, but women also have them and some are prominent.


    That's why the use of the word PROBABLY. Besides, who wants a woman with a larger Adam's Apple as their own. Ann Colter's Adam's Apple is gross.


    You used the word PROBABLY, but not the word PROMINENT.

    I have no problem with women having prominent Adam's apples. I find them quite sexy on men.

  • metta

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    Aug 18, 2015 2:47 PM GMT
    Transgender Woman Murdered Near Church Parking Lot – Attacker Drove Over Her Body Multiple Times


    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/ericrosswood/transgender_woman_murdered_in_church_parking_lot_attacker_drove_over_her_body_numerous_times
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    Aug 18, 2015 3:05 PM GMT
    waccamatt said
    MGINSD saidWhere are Jesse and Al on this one?

    Where are you? What do you do besides complain?

    I've seen some hateful threads on this site before, but this takes the cake.

    +1

    Obviously someone with no sympathy for the LGBT victims and more with the likely gay-hatred killer(s), before all the facts are known.
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    Aug 18, 2015 3:06 PM GMT
    It is very sad that these women were murdered. But it is even sadder that we are blaming them. Even if they misled these men these women did not deserve to be murdered. But it is unknown why they were murdered.
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    Aug 18, 2015 3:21 PM GMT
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    waccamatt said
    MGINSD saidWhere are Jesse and Al on this one?

    Where are you? What do you do besides complain?

    I've seen some hateful threads on this site before, but this takes the cake.

    +1

    Obviously someone with no sympathy for the LGBT victims and more with the likely gay-hatred killer(s), before all the facts are known.



    Don't be stupid. No one here is in favor of violence against transexuals. And true, we don't know the motive of why this person was attacked. Some of us were simply commenting on a very well known tactic many (not necessarily this one) trannies use to get sex....deception. I'd be willing to bet I have met more transexuals than anyone on this site. And I can tell you I've rarely met one who didn't brag about how they trick straight men into having sex with them. Maybe it's a power thing or just a way to assure themselves they're passable, but whatever the reason it's a very well known tactic they use. It's like poking lions with a stick. Eventually one of the lions is going to kill you.
  • metta

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    Aug 18, 2015 5:41 PM GMT
    Why Transgender People Are Being Murdered at a Historic Rate


    "Like the majority of the other victims, Elisha was not just transgender but a young transgender woman of color.

    “These are all characteristics of people in the United States who are more susceptible to violence,” says the Center’s Mara Keisling, “of people who are more marginalized economically and educationally, people who end up having a bullseye on their back.”



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    "heightened visibility has also put more people at risk of being harassed or hurt."


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    "Transgender people are four times more likely than the general population to report living in extreme poverty, making less than $10,000 per year, a standing that sometimes pushes them to enter the dangerous trade of sex work. Nearly 80% of transgender people report experiencing harassment at school when they were young. As adults, some report being physically assaulted trains and buses, in retail stores and restaurants. Greater awareness has not yet translated into broad acceptance, says Kris Hayashi, executive director of the Transgender Law Center: “The majority of society does not understand who transgender people are in ways that lead to the violence and the murder and the harassment that we’re seeing.”


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    “We all have a responsibility to stop this violence,” he says, “and that means if you see a transgender person being harassed, we all have an obligation to speak up, to do something.”

    http://time.com/3999348/transgender-murders-2015/
  • metta

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    Aug 19, 2015 7:51 AM GMT
    "A State of Emergency": At Least 17 Transgender Women Have Been Murdered This Year


    http://www.democracynow.org/2015/8/18/a_state_of_emergency_at_least
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    Aug 19, 2015 8:00 AM GMT
    This is real sad. Its not just the transgenders. It's also guys that look like me, the queens and guys who identify as male, but look like girls too.
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    Aug 21, 2015 2:09 PM GMT
    Trans Deaths, White Privilege"

    - an important new op-ed about the crisis of violence against trans people of color by Jennifer Finney Boylan. Please take a few minutes to read and share this:

    "My mother told me that love would prevail, and for me it has, as it often does for people of privilege in this country, people who can find themselves insulated from injustice by dint of race or class or education or accident of birth. For many trans women, though, especially those of color, something other than love prevails: loss."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/opinion/trans-deaths-white-privilege.html?smid=tw-share
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    Aug 21, 2015 2:33 PM GMT
    The Loud Silence When Trans Women of Color Are Killed

    "Eyricka Morgan, 26, was a black transgender woman. She was a student at Rutgers University in New Jersey. She was an activist. She was fatally stabbed in September 2013. She was my friend."


    http://mic.com/articles/124132/the-loud-silence-when-trans-women-of-color-are-killed
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    Aug 21, 2015 2:44 PM GMT
    Trans Women Of Color Collective

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    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trans-Women-of-Color-Collective/260157457481326


    Dear Trans Women of Color,

    Goddess Queen Sisters, revolutionary freedom fighters; I acknowledge you, I am here for you, I love you and I lift you up. We can no longer wait for anyone to save us. We gotta do it for ourselves. We gotta invest in ourselves, we gotta build for ourselves. PROTECT yourselves and your sisters. DEFEND yourselves and your sisters. Hold each other close today and everyday. Reach out to your sisters and let them know that you love them and you got their backs. Let them know that our life has tremendous value, that our life matters. 5 of our sisters were brutally murdered this week. They cannot and will not kill us all, but they will try. We will not let them!

    Lourdes Ashley Hunter