Why is there so much drug use in the gay scene, and what are you limits on what you'll accept from others?

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    Aug 19, 2015 6:10 PM GMT
    Before I start, I'm not being judgemental (almost got into a fight with a friend's friend on this subject). But I am just not feeling this at all. And in Denver, it doesn't help that this place is already a meth lab PLUS the added benefit of legalized pot (the couple friends I know who do pot are so lazy and boring. Can't even have a decent conversation or get thru a movie and they go falling alseep). Most every gay guy here has their head in some bullshit, which explains why everyone here is so fucked up and nobody can keep a decent relationship going. A guy I was seeing went from saying he's in control of meth, to stopping cold turkey, to doubling up on weed, to going right back to it. He's been din denial from day 1 about it. And all my friends say it'd be a deal breaker for them.

    It never fails, you get around a gaggle of gays, someone somewhere is going to be snorting up cocaine. Or Ive come across guys, and their way to relax is to get stoned or smoke a meth pipe. I personally don't do any of it, and what's sad is these aren't just guys my age. People in their 40s are still out here doing heavy street drugs. Then got the nerve to ask if I PNP. No bitch, but They'll need an EMT if they OD, and I shove that pipe up their fucking ass.

    But jokes aside, I've seen it throughout the gay scene, but I've also met people who have stopped and become successful...but seems they were only able to stop when they completely abandoned the gay scene.

    I don't really have an issue with anyone doing it, but I do have an issue with the sketchy behavior when they do. And pot is pretty mellow, like alcohol...which is all I do, But, I hear there's certain parameters on how much, and what you use, and how often. What would they be for you?
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    Aug 19, 2015 6:11 PM GMT
    generalisations generalisations .......
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    Aug 19, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
    Responsible marijuana and alcohol use is the only thing I'll tolerate around me. No exceptions. It's my personal boundaries. Everyone is free to make their own without apologies.
  • HottJoe

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    Aug 19, 2015 6:28 PM GMT
    I can accept everything, except for meth and fast food. I draw the line at cholesterol.

    (I'm actually contemplating going vegan since I eat so little meat, eggs and dairy anymore.)
  • NyRuinz

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    Aug 19, 2015 6:31 PM GMT
    I think a lot of gay men are dealing with Trauma. I'm sure they were terrorized and bullied as youth, but have yet to deal with those issues.
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    Aug 19, 2015 6:32 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI can accept everything, except for meth and fast food. I draw the line at cholesterol.

    (I'm actually contemplating going vegan since I eat so little meat, eggs and dairy anymore.)


    your body needs cholesterol to survive icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 19, 2015 6:35 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidResponsible marijuana and alcohol use is the only thing I'll tolerate around me. No exceptions. It's my personal boundaries. Everyone is free to make their own without apologies.


    I'm glad you said "responsible". Alcohol is the other one. And I find, it usually starts with not being responsible with alcohol then they go to other stuff, and say "I don't keep alcohol in the house" as if they're some holy St. Mary catholic temple. But then, you find out there's other stuff that is being kept in the house, and it's all over the walls too lol. Then the HazMat crew has to come in and de-meth the place lol.
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    Aug 19, 2015 6:37 PM GMT
    bonaparts said
    HottJoe saidI can accept everything, except for meth and fast food. I draw the line at cholesterol.

    (I'm actually contemplating going vegan since I eat so little meat, eggs and dairy anymore.)


    your body needs cholesterol to survive icon_rolleyes.gif

    People who consume animal products don't live as long and are more prone to heart disease, cancer, and all other age related diseases caused by inflammation.
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    Aug 19, 2015 6:39 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    bonaparts said
    HottJoe saidI can accept everything, except for meth and fast food. I draw the line at cholesterol.

    (I'm actually contemplating going vegan since I eat so little meat, eggs and dairy anymore.)


    your body needs cholesterol to survive icon_rolleyes.gif

    People who consume animal products don't live as long and are more prone to heart disease, cancer, and all other age related diseases caused by inflammation.


    and all the longest living people on earth are meat, dairy, egg eaters, many of them smokers as well icon_lol.gif You act like vegans live that long and do not have cancer or disease, you couldn't be more wrong
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    Aug 19, 2015 6:47 PM GMT
    bonaparts said
    HottJoe said
    bonaparts said
    HottJoe saidI can accept everything, except for meth and fast food. I draw the line at cholesterol.

    (I'm actually contemplating going vegan since I eat so little meat, eggs and dairy anymore.)


    your body needs cholesterol to survive icon_rolleyes.gif

    People who consume animal products don't live as long and are more prone to heart disease, cancer, and all other age related diseases caused by inflammation.


    and all the longest living people on earth are meat, dairy, egg eaters, many of them smokers as well icon_lol.gif You act like vegans live that long and do not have cancer or disease, you couldn't be more wrong

    Countries that eat a western diet have the highest early mortality rates, and they've traced it to too much meat and dairy.

    Any decent doctor will tell you to lower bad cholesterol by eating more vegetables and less meat/dairy.
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    Aug 19, 2015 6:51 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    bonaparts said
    HottJoe said
    bonaparts said
    HottJoe saidI can accept everything, except for meth and fast food. I draw the line at cholesterol.

    (I'm actually contemplating going vegan since I eat so little meat, eggs and dairy anymore.)


    your body needs cholesterol to survive icon_rolleyes.gif

    People who consume animal products don't live as long and are more prone to heart disease, cancer, and all other age related diseases caused by inflammation.


    and all the longest living people on earth are meat, dairy, egg eaters, many of them smokers as well icon_lol.gif You act like vegans live that long and do not have cancer or disease, you couldn't be more wrong

    Countries that eat a western diet have the highest early mortality rates, and they've traced it to too much meat and dairy.

    Any decent doctor will tell you to lower bad cholesterol by eating more vegetables and less meat/dairy.


    true true
    anyway, you can be vegan it's not like I care
    just vegan hype is overrated
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    Aug 19, 2015 7:38 PM GMT
    op "I don't really have an issue with anyone doing it, but I do have an issue with the sketchy behavior when they do. And pot is pretty mellow, like alcohol...which is all I do, But, I hear there's certain parameters on how much, and what you use, and how often. What would they be for you?"

    I do drink. I smoke a little pot every now and then. I DO NOT PnP, no Tina, crystal, meth.....whatever the name in vogue.

    It's a litmus test of sorts. By eliminating meth users I don't run into the sketchy ones so much: the lying, thievery, mentally self induced handicapped, paranoid, drug obsessed, more prone to STDs. They can't find the time to take necessary prescription drugs but are always chasing and finding Tina though.


    Why are there so many drugs in the Gay community? We have always been a disenfranchised group, also on the edge of art, style and living. It's like hippies doing Acid. It's almost expected.
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    Aug 19, 2015 7:38 PM GMT
    Chulo thinks you are a very sad man.

    Chulo no think you will find happiness anywhere.
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    Aug 19, 2015 8:19 PM GMT
    I think that many gay men are dealing with issues with their sexuality, their past, bullying, in the closet, being denied by family or can't find love, or feeling super lonely. Most guys turn to drugs to make them feel better. I, personally, have never done any drugs. The only thing close to it I was at a rave in 2001 and my friend wanted me to do some E, lol, I was a little drunk and hyper though. But yeah I dated a guy in LA back in 2006 for about 3 months, he was very cute, handsome and all-together until he pulled out package of cocaine and ask me to do it with him. From that point on, I noticed his mood swings and he became more angry and bitchy with me every time we see each other. I don't know he was becoming more of a mess, eventually I just couldn't take it anymore and left him alone.
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    Aug 19, 2015 9:06 PM GMT
    in my case, I'm a lightweight when it comes to alcohol and hypersensitive when it comes to herbal intoxicants so, none of that for me...
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    Aug 19, 2015 9:10 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI can accept everything, except for meth and fast food. I draw the line at cholesterol.

    (I'm actually contemplating going vegan since I eat so little meat, eggs and dairy anymore.)
    I eat a few vegan meals every week. It goes great with Paleo. If you've already got enough nutritional knowledge to tweak your diet the way you want to, then the transition to vegan will be very easy.
  • ThatSwimmerGu...

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    Aug 19, 2015 9:26 PM GMT
    At this point I only drink about 2-3 times per month. I do not use any drugs. I struggle at finding a guy who is drug free and does not want to get trashed every weekend.
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    Aug 19, 2015 9:38 PM GMT
    There's acceptance of drug use by gays because most gays are Liberal.

    It's the liberalism that's the problem.

    Most liberal movies and TV shows depict gays as either feminine, alhohol/drug abusers, drama queens or victims.

    Heterosexual Liberals want gays to fit a stereotype so they easily know who is gay without asking.

  • Crisistunity

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    Aug 19, 2015 9:39 PM GMT
    Among the few drug users I've known there were only two gay guys who smoked pot, most of them were straight women and some were straight guys.

    However, there are scientific papers, like this one, concluding that «the odds of substance use for LGB youth were, on average, 190% higher than for heterosexual youth and substantially higher within some subpopulations of LGB youth (340% higher for bisexual youth, 400% higher for females)»

    About my limits: only responsible alcohol use.
  • conservativej...

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    Aug 19, 2015 9:56 PM GMT
    Who has time for meth heads and pot heads? Let them find their own way along whatever path they are walking.

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    Aug 19, 2015 10:04 PM GMT
    I do not need any drugs because I am my own drug. lol. To each his own.
  • tj85016

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    Aug 19, 2015 10:08 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidThere's acceptance of drug use by gays because most gays are Liberal.

    It's the liberalism that's the problem.

    Most liberal movies and TV shows depict gays as either feminine, alhohol/drug abusers, drama queens or victims.

    Heterosexual Liberals want gays to fit a stereotype so they easily know who is gay without asking.



    lol, oh right, that makes sense

    is that why conservatives are alcoholics? icon_lol.gif
  • waccamatt

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    Aug 19, 2015 10:16 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidThere's acceptance of drug use by gays because most gays are Liberal.

    It's the liberalism that's the problem.

    Most liberal movies and TV shows depict gays as either feminine, alhohol/drug abusers, drama queens or victims.

    Heterosexual Liberals want gays to fit a stereotype so they easily know who is gay without asking.



    You've been brainwashed by Rush "Oxycontin" Limbaugh.
  • tazzari

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    Aug 19, 2015 10:56 PM GMT
    Depends on the company you keep and where you go. among my dozen or so gay friends - all professionals - there is no drug use. No smoking, either. Alcohol at parties. Too busy, to health-minded, I guess.
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    Aug 19, 2015 11:08 PM GMT
    OP, u ever think that u just tend to gravitate toward shitty people? U ever think that u give out a vibe that draws drug addicts, co-dependent basketcases toward you? That maybe u tend to run with a shit crowd? Cuz you're a shit person?

    Maybe look inside yourself and see what the problem is. I've noticed a consistent pattern with you .... u come on here, bitch about somebody or some scenario that has somehow wronged you... or done something to you that u cannot tolerate..., like I remember u talking about some bullshit about a fuckbuddy/roommate situation...and then about some druggie friends you have and then about some bullshit that went down at a gay bar u went to. U sound like a fucking moron and i guarantee you it's 100% you. You run with the wrong people, dumbass.

    I never encounter these things that u do. I never have these issues that u have with gays. You, fuckface... need to surround urself with better people.