Malaysia will not protect LGBT people because of Islam, says Prime Minister

  • metta

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    Aug 20, 2015 3:40 PM GMT
    Malaysia will not protect LGBT people because of Islam, says Prime Minister


    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/08/20/malaysia-will-not-protect-lgbt-people-because-of-islam-says-prime-minister/
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    Aug 20, 2015 10:24 PM GMT
    This is from the same guy who had a `donation' of Malaysian 2.6 billion ringgit deposited into his bank account. He claims it was a donation from a friendly middle eastern country to back his political party. I guess personal donations of this amount to a Prime Ministers personal bank account are acceptable under Islamic law, regardless of the donor's intentions.
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    Aug 21, 2015 3:12 AM GMT
    Indonesia, the neighboring country, which also the biggest nation with Muslim population, do not prosecute gay people. Though I heard they're still conservative as in sometimes gay people will be given "counseling". It's still very much hetero normative and conservative. But the Muslim leaders, the biggest Muslim organizations in Indonesia, has unsuccessfully tried to lobby the lawmaker and release a statement to propose sharia law, as in put the gays in jail, and or punish them with lashes or stoning, to which the parliament (I think?) said that would be impossible, because it's against human rights. And I think Indonesia, while only acknowledge Islam, Christian, Buddha, Hindu, and some others as religion, is actually a secular country. Their motto is "Unity in Diversity".
    At least that's what I heard from a friend of mine.
  • HottJoe

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    Aug 21, 2015 3:17 AM GMT
    Religions should not govern countries. They're too cruel.
  • mar0302

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    Aug 22, 2015 7:51 AM GMT
    Malaysia is a political mess.. they already discriminate against Malaysian-born people of foreign ancestry.. Chinese-Malaysians, Indian-Malaysians, etc.. all are second class citizens in housing, finance and education rights.. I'm not surprised they'd be homophobic as well.. and remember, their ex-prime minister was imprisoned for having anal sex..
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    Aug 22, 2015 9:26 PM GMT
    Well what do we have here:

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    Too bad Hitler isn't around to play with Barack.
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    Aug 22, 2015 9:48 PM GMT
    Ronar2 saidIndonesia, the neighboring country, which also the biggest nation with Muslim population, do not prosecute gay people. Though I heard they're still conservative as in sometimes gay people will be given "counseling". It's still very much hetero normative and conservative. But the Muslim leaders, the biggest Muslim organizations in Indonesia, has unsuccessfully tried to lobby the lawmaker and release a statement to propose sharia law, as in put the gays in jail, and or punish them with lashes or stoning, to which the parliament (I think?) said that would be impossible, because it's against human rights. And I think Indonesia, while only acknowledge Islam, Christian, Buddha, Hindu, and some others as religion, is actually a secular country. Their motto is "Unity in Diversity".
    At least that's what I heard from a friend of mine.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Indonesia
    Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people in Indonesia will face legal challenges and prejudices not experienced by non-LGBT residents. Traditional mores disapprove of homosexuality and cross-dressing, which impacts public policy. For example, Indonesian same-sex couples and households headed by same-sex couples are not eligible for any of the legal protections available to opposite-sex married couples. The importance in Indonesia for social harmony leads to duties rather than rights to be emphasized, which means that human rights along with homosexual rights are very fragile.[1] Yet, the LGBT community in Indonesia has steadily become more visible and politically active...

    The national criminal code does not prohibit private, non-commercial homosexual relations between consenting adults. A national bill to criminalize homosexuality, along with cohabitation, adultery and the practice of witchcraft, failed to be enacted in 2003 and no subsequent bill has been reintroduced.[2]

    Indonesia allows its provincial governments to establish certain Islamic based laws, such as criminal sanctions for homosexuality . These local penalties exist in the Aceh province and Palembang city, where provincial bylaws against LGBT rights was passed in September 2014.[3] The bylaws extend sharia (Islamic law) to non-Muslims, criminalizing consensual same-sex sexual acts as well as all zina (sexual relations outside of marriage). This sharia-based criminal code permits as punishment up to 100 lashes and up to 100 months in prison for consensual same-sex sex acts, while zina violations carry a penalty of 100 lashes.[3]

    In Jakarta, lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people are legally labeled as "cacat" or mentally handicapped and are therefore not protected under the law...
  • Sam_mas

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    Aug 23, 2015 10:42 AM GMT
    Indonesia is more like Turkey in this case. Muslim in majority but secular in practice (for sure). And I heard Indonesia is the only country to ever establish a Religious Affairs Ministry?

    Its weird how Indonesia is way more secular than Malaysia, which basically was colonized by the Dutch and not taken care after then (?), unlike Malaysia who was colonized and still is under the watch of the Biritish. In a way, if Indonesia was also colonized by the Brits they could sure be way more secular and prosper than they are right now. Just a couple miles tho...
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    Aug 24, 2015 7:31 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidWell what do we have here:

    pg13986900083.jpg

    obama-malaysia-pm-selfie-twitter.jpg

    naypyidaw-myanmar-12th-nov-2014-us-presi

    obamaasia.jpg

    d02788d8dd6b16070ae023.jpg

    Too bad Hitler isn't around to play with Barack.



    How about a Republican with Hitler?

    herbert-hoover-meeting-with-adolf-hitler
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    Aug 24, 2015 7:37 PM GMT
    timmm55 said
    mx5braincellsleft said...Too bad Hitler isn't around....

    How about a Republican with Hitler?
    herbert-hoover-meeting-with-adolf-hitler


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