Leftism is a pathology of dishonesty and deceit

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    Aug 21, 2015 3:14 PM GMT
    [Sanders being a rare exception]
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    A Willing Suspension of Disbelief By Bruce Walker

    Leftism is a pathology of mendacity. When Obama told us that his grandfather liberated Auschwitz, that was a gratuitous fabrication – he could have honestly stated that his grandfather was part of the army that helped liberate concentration camps in western Germany, but truth means so little to him that inventing the Auschwitz fable pinged no conscience at all. In the same way, when Mrs. William Jefferson Clinton told America that she was named “Hillary” in honor of Sir Edmond Hillary climbing Mt. Everest, even though that happened years after Mrs. Clinton was born, that also was an effortless deception, because to her, truth has value only when it is helpful.

    We see in leftism this casual prevarication over and over again. Lois Lerner tells us – and expects us to believe – that her emails were erased with no intent to cover up wrongdoing, just as Mrs. Clinton tells us that the vast number of government records (State Department emails) were destroyed because all the records destroyed had to do with personal matters. Ironically, Mrs. Clinton herself coined a phrase that conservatives should repeat again and again as long as she remains the Democrat frontrunner and she used that phrase in her interrogation of General Petraeus at the end of the Bush presidency, when she told the general that his statements to the Senate committee required “a willing suspension of disbelief.”

    Isn’t that the perfect expression of what the spoiled and lazy minds of leftist politicians in America today demand of us? When listening to Obama’s press secretary, how many times in a single answer does he simply lie to us? When the former Senate majority leader on the floor of the Senate stated that Mitt Romney paid no taxes at all, did Reid show any contrition at all? No, none. When Bill Clinton angrily stared into the television camera and explicitly denied any sexual relations with Monica, did that grotesque lie drive him out of public life? Hardly – his wife, who blamed the “Vast Right Wing Conspiracy,” was, until recently, considered a lock on the Democrat nomination.

    Who will be the nominee if not her? No one believes that Bernie Sanders can be the nominee. (His honest embrace of Marxist silliness is too...well, honest.) Joe Biden, the man whose presidential bid imploded when he was caught plagiarizing a British Labor Party leader? Elizabeth Warren, who claimed to be Native America to get into Ivy League colleges? John Kerry, who recalled his 1968 Christmas in Cambodia, when Nixon was president (arrogantly ignorant in his lies to the fact that his Swift Boat comrades said that they were never in Cambodia and the fact that Nixon was not president in 1968 )?

    The grim reality is that dishonesty is so fundamental to leftism today that while all politicians connive with the facts a bit if they think that there is no chance of getting caught, the pathological liars of establishment leftism more and more resemble the Stalinist Lillian Hellman, about whom Mary McCarthy famously wrote: “Every word [she] writes is a lie, including ‘and’ and ‘the.’”

    The establishment media, like entrenched government bureaucracies and corrupt academia, long since stopped caring about intellectual integrity. All of these organs care only about either advancing an ideological agenda or protecting their comfortable perches and perks. Over the last fifty years or so, there has been virtually no governor or check upon the most outrageous frauds.

    Most of us as children are caught fibbing and punished. We learn, in the real world, that deceit has costs. This is simply not true for leftists. Why in the world should we be surprised that Hillary, who has never in her adult life faced the consequences of fibbing and faking and fabricating, finds herself today caught in a spiral of endless lies upon lies? Why would a woman married to a serial philanderer and a brutal stalker of helpless women, who today portrays herself as a champion of women, be even able to rise above the sort of Orwellian doublethink that passes as serious leftist policy pronouncements?

    So when we hear the latest ridiculous explanation from Hillary Clinton or Lois Lerner or some other debris of leftist corruption, we ought to have, always, a “willing suspension of disbelief.” These broken souls and dead consciences are addicted to falsehoods. They live on lies.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/08/a_willing_suspension_of_disbelief.html
  • tj85016

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    Aug 21, 2015 3:29 PM GMT
    the biggest fraud over the past few years has been the dual simultaneous bubbles in stocks and bonds

    which is almost impossible to engineer without gigantic amounts of debt and a huge Fed balance sheet (the Fed buys stocks and bonds and other assets - the balance sheet is currently $4-5 trillion)

    Obama may actually leave the country worse off than he found it - we'll see what happens (but prices of oil, copper, aluminum, nickel are cratering - which means recession)
  • bobbobbob

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    Aug 21, 2015 3:41 PM GMT


    That was very worth reading. It sums up everything about liberals since Arkansas trailer trash went to the white house.
  • Hypertrophile

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    Aug 21, 2015 9:18 PM GMT
    The first paragraph in the OP is part falsehood and part exaggeration. First, Obama said it was his great-uncle, not his grandfather, who liberated Auschwitz. Second, the president did err, but only on the name of the camp that the uncle's unit liberated. That being the Ohrdruf work camp, and not Auschwitz. The story is mostly true, and not a "fable" as the author in the OP puts it.
  • Hypertrophile

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    Aug 21, 2015 9:28 PM GMT
    The irony here is how many posts I've made just like the above, pointing out erroneous information in the sources you guys use.

    I agree that Sanders is exceptional in his honesty and transparency, but don't think for a minute that you wouldn't also have to search very hard for a similarly honest politician on the right.
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    Aug 21, 2015 9:55 PM GMT
    Physiqueflex saidThe first paragraph in the OP is part falsehood and part exaggeration. First, Obama said it was his great-uncle, not his grandfather, who liberated Auschwitz. Second, the president did err, but only on the name of the camp that the uncle's unit liberated. That being the Ohrdruf work camp, and not Auschwitz. The story is mostly true, and not a "fable" as the author in the OP puts it.

    So the Obama story, mostly true, is OK. But the author's story, also mostly true, is grossly inaccurate in your eyes. I would've thought the blatant double standard would be obvious even to you.
  • MarvinMartian

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    Aug 21, 2015 10:13 PM GMT
    bobbobbob said

    That was very worth reading. It sums up everything about liberals since Arkansas trailer trash went to the white house.

    You're an idiot.
  • MarvinMartian

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    Aug 21, 2015 10:14 PM GMT
    The OP loves to pretend that his view is the common one. In fact, as far as I can tell, your views are extreme and they verge on crazy.
  • Hypertrophile

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    Aug 21, 2015 10:22 PM GMT
    An exaggerated story as part of a broader story of the heroes that we honor on Memorial Day

    vs.

    A dishonest story as part of a broader story on the use of dishonesty by the opposition.

    Total
    double-standard icon_rolleyes.gif

    Right out of the gate in an attempt to prove "the left's" dishonesty the author stumbles over his own. No point in reading further.
  • Hypertrophile

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    Aug 21, 2015 10:26 PM GMT
    Oh, I get it. The title of the article is an instruction, as in "You must have..." to believe what you're about to read. Well, then. That's very different. Nevermind.
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    Aug 21, 2015 10:33 PM GMT
    Focusing on the minutia and avoiding major items even though they weren't part of the author's piece: If you like your plan you can keep your plan. I don't have the authority to change deportation policy 29 times till I change my mind. I didn't send or receive any classified messages. Oh wait, I didn't send or receive any messages marked as classified. I had an account just for convenience. On and on.
  • Hypertrophile

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    Aug 21, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
    And what is the point here? We should all listen to you because you don't lie as much as the other guy? Strong sales technique. You should try that approach with cars and see where it gets you. "Yes, Mister Customer, this Maverick is the car for you! At least it's not a Pinto!"
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    Aug 21, 2015 10:40 PM GMT
    How about Hillary under fire in Bosnia? The difference is isolated areas of an inaccuracy versus a pervasive pattern of dishonesty.
  • Hypertrophile

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    Aug 21, 2015 10:42 PM GMT
    I can see that pattern on both sides. Why can't you?
  • Hypertrophile

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    Aug 21, 2015 10:50 PM GMT
    Something else I find interesting is how you were the first to jump on my case for making a broad generalization about conservatives and their sense of humor, or more accurately their lack there of, yet here you are making similarly broad strokes.
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    Aug 21, 2015 11:30 PM GMT
    Physiqueflex saidSomething else I find interesting is how you were the first to jump on my case for making a broad generalization about conservatives and their sense of humor, or more accurately their lack there of, yet here you are making similarly broad strokes.

    I understand the seeming paradox. The difference, however, is that some generalizations are without basis, and some are true.
  • Hypertrophile

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    Aug 21, 2015 11:37 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Physiqueflex saidSomething else I find interesting is how you were the first to jump on my case for making a broad generalization about conservatives and their sense of humor, or more accurately their lack there of, yet here you are making similarly broad strokes.

    I understand the seeming paradox. The difference, however, is that some generalizations are without basis, and some are true.


    And you've shown that you're not the best judge of what is true.

    Prove me wrong about the other thing. Post something funny.
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    Aug 21, 2015 11:42 PM GMT
    OK.....

    hillary-clinton.jpg
  • Hypertrophile

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    Aug 21, 2015 11:50 PM GMT
    That's a great picture of her! Seriously. She's losing that bad plastic surgery look she had and looking more like she should at her age. Maybe not the most dignified of expressions, but full of whimsy and humor.

    Glad you recognized that.
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    Aug 21, 2015 11:53 PM GMT
    Glad you enjoyed it. I'm sure many leftists would be highly offended and feel righteous indignation.
  • bobbobbob

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    Aug 22, 2015 12:36 AM GMT
    Physiqueflex saidThe first paragraph in the OP is part falsehood and part exaggeration. First, Obama said it was his great-uncle, not his grandfather, who liberated Auschwitz. Second, the president did err, but only on the name of the camp that the uncle's unit liberated. That being the Ohrdruf work camp, and not Auschwitz. The story is mostly true, and not a "fable" as the author in the OP puts it.


    WHAT???

    Phyllisfex you stuck your foot up your ass this time.
    Exactly how the hell do you figure "mostly true"?
    What about mostly pregnant?
    Mostly wealthy?
    Mostly tall?
    Mostly alive?

    Fuck the concept of relative truth.

    Think of truth as clear spring water. Think of untruth as pig shit. Go fill a bucket with spring water and I'll fill a bucket with pig shit. We bump and they mix from bucket to bucket. You drink first and tell me how mostly true tastes.

    In the case of dealing with reality evading liberaggots it's obvious the they perceive truth as coming in two sizes: Big or Ugly. Therefore they seek to ameliorate the truth to fit within their fluffy cloud rhetoric of consistently unbroken promises and unachievable utopian goals.

    His uncle was not at Auschwitz. There's no mostly to that.
    The Auschwitz bucket is tainted with pig shit. Drink it if you want but don't expect people with more brains than partisan idiocy to do as you do.

    The Current Resident Of the Whitehouse could have fact checked himself with a phone call to his own cousin as easily as reporters did less than 8 hours after C.R.O.W. spoke/ lied/ embellished the truth. He would have done himself a greater favor by saying his uncle was part of the US army forces who liberated Ohdruf, the first concentration camp encountered by allied forces. He could have referenced the famous letters written by Eisenhower, Patton, and Bradley after they saw with their own eyes the inhumanity of National Socialism.

    But, no. The Liar in Chief had to throw in a nationally known brand name for concentration camps.

  • Hypertrophile

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    Aug 22, 2015 12:52 AM GMT
    Wow. Bobo just went completely off the rails.

    I'm not sure if he's talking to me, or Socal. If he believes there is no such thing as relative truth, then he has to dismiss the OP as false. Then again, he has to dismiss many of his own posts as false, as I've shown several times in the past.
  • bobbobbob

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    Aug 22, 2015 12:52 AM GMT
    Physiqueflex saidThe irony here is how many posts I've made just like the above, pointing out erroneous information in the sources you guys use.

    I agree that Sanders is exceptional in his honesty and transparency, but don't think for a minute that you wouldn't also have to search very hard for a similarly honest politician on the right.


    There a Catch 22 to 'Honest Abe' Sanders making it to the debates. Sooner or later someone is going to pop him the zinger question:

    "Commisar Sanders, can you cite one example of the socialist programs you will implement that have led to anything other than more widespread poverty and oppression of civil liberties anywhere in the history of Socialism?"

    And at that point he will either have to be consistently honest and say no... or turn into Bernie Clinton and start lying his ass off.

    I just found out from a friend in Finland there's a 5 year waiting list just to apply for H1-B visas to the USA for PhD in botany 7 other sciences. Meantime our southern border is open to anyone with a 4th grade education and a back strong enough to carry 40 kilos of cocaine.