Gay Vester Flanagan kills 2 newspeople, injures 1

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    Aug 27, 2015 12:36 AM GMT
    Claiming so far unsubstantiated homophobia and racism:

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-alleged-gunman-details-grievances-suicide-notes/story?id=33336339

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    Aug 27, 2015 1:19 AM GMT
    He went about it the wrong way, but I applaud his efforts. It's about time gay men fight back. icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 27, 2015 1:23 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidHe went about it the wrong way, but I applaud his efforts. It's about time gay men fight back. icon_wink.gif


    you're so funny Paul icon_wink.gif

  • Aug 27, 2015 1:29 AM GMT
    Sorry for the novel in advance...but this made me really think about the result of isolation and the lack of caring within the gay community in 2015:

    In NO WAY am I defending what happened, but it seems as if people are searching for answers...I think I can add a few things. It's a great time to be gay - if you have money, graduate degrees, have a perfect body, are under 30 and live in a highly populated gay city. But that's a single digit percentage of gay men who get to have that luxury. The rest of us - marriage?! - yeah right! Most of us haven't even MET anyone in over ten years. What urban folks call progress the rest of us call going back to hiding in our basements with our devices, desperately trying to meet somoene that we haven't seen over and over and over again since it's always the same 10 people and thanks to location based technology you can't jump over to another city and try your luck in a different chat room. Not to mention most of us can't afford to leave the towns we are in, or we are obligated to care for our aging parents. It's not as easy to 'pick up and move' as you think.

    The root cause of this is a feeling of being ripped off. We came out under the guise of 'no more lies; living my truth and surrounding myself with like minded people'. This sounds great in theory, but once you arrive to the big gay city without the money, $1000 suits, half a million dollar lofts, brand new cars, etc - you might as well not even exist. These guys won't even look in your direction unless YOU have something for them. This is very painful for gay men who gave up a lot to come out: many have lost their families over this; their friends have abandoned them and returning to their hometowns is no longer an option. When they arrive to the big city and are treated even worse by this community called gay men, despair sets in. I personally don't give a crap about gay marriage. I've yet to see a substantial number of gay relationships that last longer than 6-18 months. I care about gay men who are alone and on the brink of homelessness, or addicts, or who are very, very lost and angry. My guess is this man, despite how evil his actions were, was one of these men. We are gay - but we are still men - that hot button that is rejection shows up as sheer pain in our eyes and on our faces. It's humiliating and it's the reason why our community is drowning in alcohol and opiate addiction. But nobody at these fancy gay magazines wants to talk about gay men living on the streets or stealing to get their next percocet. And with this new generation of young gay men being the first who never knew life before digital devices and texts, it's going to get much worse because we will soon have a whole society that can't even keep up a conversation with another person because they've never had to develop any social skills. And the bottom line is...most gay men don't care if other gay men live or die. There is NO community in 2015. It's every man for himself.
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    Aug 27, 2015 1:33 AM GMT
    America is headed towards a BLOODY revolution. Hopefully I won't be here when it hits.
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    Aug 27, 2015 1:37 AM GMT
    Mulignan saidAmerica is headed towards a BLOODY revolution. Hopefully I won't be here when it hits.
    +1
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    Aug 27, 2015 1:39 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidHe went about it the wrong way, but I applaud his efforts. It's about time gay men fight back. icon_wink.gif


    I hope you are joking.icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 27, 2015 1:52 AM GMT
    Chulo said
    paulflexes saidHe went about it the wrong way, but I applaud his efforts. It's about time gay men fight back. icon_wink.gif


    I hope you are joking.icon_eek.gif

    Paul never jokes.icon_mad.gif
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    Aug 27, 2015 1:53 AM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Chulo said
    paulflexes saidHe went about it the wrong way, but I applaud his efforts. It's about time gay men fight back. icon_wink.gif


    I hope you are joking.icon_eek.gif

    Paul never jokes.icon_mad.gif
    I said "he went about it the wrong way" because this is the kind of person he should have targeted.
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4103486/
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    Aug 27, 2015 1:54 AM GMT
    I'm a dog.
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    Aug 27, 2015 1:55 AM GMT
    I'm not a fire hydrant.
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    Aug 27, 2015 1:58 AM GMT
    He had been fired from other jobs before in different states. When he was fired from the last job, he had to be escorted out by security. This was a deeply disturbed individual who was probably more paranoid than oppressed.
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    Aug 27, 2015 2:07 AM GMT
    James_Thunder_Early saidHe had been fired from other jobs before in different states. When he was fired from the last job, he had to be escorted out by security. This was a deeply disturbed individual who was probably more paranoid than oppressed.
    I was escorted out by security at a job I'd been with for 6.5 years...even after they paid my college tuition.

    Sounds horrible, but it was actually company policy, even after giving a two week notice because I got a job in Miami (that was my transition from factory worker to pilot). On a person's last day they required the person to be escorted out. Stupid policy, yes, but it looks horrible on a resume.
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    Aug 27, 2015 3:48 AM GMT
    I don't know why when people do revenge kills, it's never the person who gave them shit, it's some random ass innocent people. Smh.
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    Aug 27, 2015 3:54 AM GMT
    James_Thunder_Early saidHe had been fired from other jobs before in different states. When he was fired from the last job, he had to be escorted out by security. This was a deeply disturbed individual who was probably more paranoid than oppressed.



    Maybe if the right wing would just 'let it go' already icon_rolleyes.gif


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    Aug 27, 2015 4:03 AM GMT
    Black Gay Men WITH GUNS will make Wayne LaPierre of the NRA rethink his support of gun rights for all.
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    Aug 27, 2015 4:05 AM GMT
    Boaxy saidI don't know why when people do revenge kills, it's never the person who gave them shit, it's some random ass innocent people. Smh.
    That's exactly the point I've been trying to make.
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    Aug 27, 2015 4:07 AM GMT
    FitnessWorker saidBlack Gay Men WITH GUNS will make Wayne LaPierre of the NRA rethink his support of gun rights for all.
    All because one black gay man shot some random dude. Yeah right. He'll just turn it into a race war and blame blacks.

    I admire the murderer's efforts, but he really shoulda killed some homophobic political leader instead. At least he woulda went down in a blaze of glory, instead of in flames.
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    Aug 29, 2015 10:41 AM GMT
    I stand corrected.

    In my previous post I said he killed two random people. It seems the girl took his position after he was fired, and the guy snitched on him to hr to get him fired.
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    Aug 29, 2015 12:40 PM GMT
    Boaxy saidI stand corrected.

    In my previous post I said he killed two random people. It seems the girl took his position after he was fired, and the guy snitched on him to hr to get him fired.


    It didn't exactly happen like that I don't think. Bryce (or whatever alias the shooter went by...) had a known history for attacking his coworkers & angry outbursts & projecting blame onto others, along with being VERY paranoid. This particular newstation he got fired from - that he sought 'revenge' after (that he names the Carolina racism shootings from couple months back being the tipping point for him) - he became so enraged at that news station one day because he saw a watermelon in the backroom & became convinced it was meant to racial slur against him. icon_rolleyes.gif He was basically a ticking time bomb regardless...
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    Aug 30, 2015 7:48 AM GMT
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    Boaxy saidI stand corrected.

    In my previous post I said he killed two random people. It seems the girl took his position after he was fired, and the guy snitched on him to hr to get him fired.


    It didn't exactly happen like that I don't think. Bryce (or whatever alias the shooter went by...) had a known history for attacking his coworkers & angry outbursts & projecting blame onto others, along with being VERY paranoid. This particular newstation he got fired from - that he sought 'revenge' after (that he names the Carolina racism shootings from couple months back being the tipping point for him) - he became so enraged at that news station one day because he saw a watermelon in the backroom & became convinced it was meant to racial slur against him. icon_rolleyes.gif He was basically a ticking time bomb regardless...


    I'm not doubting this guy was sick and crazy, I'm just saying I can kinda relate more as to why he acted the way he did. He just finally snapped and this was the straw that broke the camels back.
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    Aug 30, 2015 12:35 PM GMT
    The guy is a murderer. Nothing about his psyche can explain his actions.