Rainy Florida

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    Aug 30, 2015 3:28 PM GMT
    Skip Florida this week, unless your flight's already booked. Gonna be cloudy & rainy a great deal, in the aftermath of Erika.

    Of course it never was a strong threat, but it breaking up into little more than a low pressure system so suddenly was a bit unusual. Naturally we're not complaining, and the rain will be welcome, we've been having a drought this year. And I saw almost no one stocking up in the supermarket, nor did we.

    Nevertheless people are still waiting for the "Big One", sorta like they say in California, since we haven't had a devastating hurricane for a number of years now. By coincidence this is the 80th anniversary of the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 that struck the Upper Florida Keys, killing between 500-600 people, the exact number never to be known. Thought to be the strongest hurricane in terms of force ever to strike the 48 States, or if not then among the top 3.

    Many victims were out-of-work Depression-era laborers brought in to convert the Flagler railroad into a roadway to Key West, a great number of them homeless WWI veterans, their names & numbers not reliably documented. The category 5 winds, over 185 mph, and 20-foot storm surge swept the Keys clean. Ernest Hemingway, himself a WWI vet, wrote articles blasting the government for the deaths of these veterans.

    It also destroyed the old railroad, ironically accelerating efforts to build the road replacement to the lower Keys that resulted in so many deaths, a highway that remained in place for another 50 years and that I rode myself. Decaying remnants of it can still be seen today. (As can decaying remnants of ME also be seen today icon_redface.gif )

    Anyway, so endeth the history lesson, And repeating the caution to skip vacationing in Florida for at least the next week.
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    Aug 30, 2015 5:20 PM GMT
    Well count your blessings because Erika wasn't a category 4 or 5 hurricane which would have been very deadly.
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    Aug 30, 2015 6:56 PM GMT
    Besides waiting for the "Big One," are floridians also waiting for the gradual inundation of the state? Unless there is a sudden melt-off of the Greenland ice sheet, we won't be around to see it, but, with most of Dade county to be underwater with a 6 foot rise in sea level, there should be a lot less land, and a lot more islands and seafront property in Florida. Anyone concerned down there?
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    Aug 30, 2015 7:17 PM GMT
    I think what's worse than a hurricane is the skunk vine. Sad how an invasive vine has killed so many trees.
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    Aug 30, 2015 7:20 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWell count your blessings because Erika wasn't a category 4 or 5 hurricane which would have been very deadly.

    Yeah, I just missed Andrew in 1992, another record cat 5, which flattened Holmstead, Florida, and forced the permanent closure of an active duty USAF base there. The partially rebuilt remnants are now used by the USAF Reserve.

    I had been there 2 weeks earlier, to take my oldest son to the USAF hospital (now closed) for an ear infection, while we were on vacation. Two weeks later it no longer existed.

    Andrew also ravaged the Miami Zoo, destroying the aviary and releasing hundreds of exotic birds. Many of the parrots found sanctuary in my sister's backyard tree, in Hollywood, which was not affected by the hurricane (it was a very compact storm).

    Ornithologists came and tried unsuccessfully to capture them. They still roost there to this day (the birds, not the ornithologists), and their offspring have populated a large part of South Florida. You can sit by my sister's swimming pool, and see these most wonderful, colorful birds.
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    Aug 30, 2015 7:23 PM GMT
    HikerSkier saidBesides waiting for the "Big One," are floridians also waiting for the gradual inundation of the state? Unless there is a sudden melt-off of the Greenland ice sheet, we won't be around to see it, but, with most of Dade county to be underwater with a 6 foot rise in sea level, there should be a lot less land, and a lot more islands and seafront property in Florida. Anyone concerned down there?

    No one discusses it. And the Republican Governor has ordered all State agencies not to acknowledge nor talk about it. Officially, global warming and sea level rise do not exist. And Florida is doing nothing about it.
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    Aug 30, 2015 9:12 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    HikerSkier saidBesides waiting for the "Big One," are floridians also waiting for the gradual inundation of the state? Unless there is a sudden melt-off of the Greenland ice sheet, we won't be around to see it, but, with most of Dade county to be underwater with a 6 foot rise in sea level, there should be a lot less land, and a lot more islands and seafront property in Florida. Anyone concerned down there?

    No one discusses it. And the Republican Governor has ordered all State agencies not to acknowledge nor talk about it. Officially, global warming and sea level rise do not exist. And Florida is doing nothing about it.
    Neither is Louisiana which is even lower laying for the most part. Horribly sadicon_sad.gif
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    Aug 30, 2015 9:30 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Art_Deco said
    HikerSkier saidBesides waiting for the "Big One," are floridians also waiting for the gradual inundation of the state? Unless there is a sudden melt-off of the Greenland ice sheet, we won't be around to see it, but, with most of Dade county to be underwater with a 6 foot rise in sea level, there should be a lot less land, and a lot more islands and seafront property in Florida. Anyone concerned down there?

    No one discusses it. And the Republican Governor has ordered all State agencies not to acknowledge nor talk about it. Officially, global warming and sea level rise do not exist. And Florida is doing nothing about it.
    Neither is Louisiana which is even lower laying for the most part. Horribly sadicon_sad.gif

    This is what happens when Republican ideology supersedes science.
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    Aug 30, 2015 10:23 PM GMT
    Just wait till hurricane Fred hits in a couple weeks. icon_eek.gif

    It's supposed to dissipate by Friday, but that's a long way off to forecast accurately.
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    Aug 31, 2015 1:56 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidJust wait till hurricane Fred hits in a couple weeks. icon_eek.gif

    It's supposed to dissipate by Friday, but that's a long way off to forecast accurately.

    We shall see...

    You're off in California at present, so kinda detached from this.
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    Aug 31, 2015 2:40 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    paulflexes saidJust wait till hurricane Fred hits in a couple weeks. icon_eek.gif

    It's supposed to dissipate by Friday, but that's a long way off to forecast accurately.

    We shall see...

    You're off in California at present, so kinda detached from this.
    I'm coming back in 3.5 weeks and still have my place there, so I'm actually quite attached. I'd hate to lose stuff just before getting back.
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    Aug 31, 2015 2:46 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    HikerSkier saidBesides waiting for the "Big One," are floridians also waiting for the gradual inundation of the state? Unless there is a sudden melt-off of the Greenland ice sheet, we won't be around to see it, but, with most of Dade county to be underwater with a 6 foot rise in sea level, there should be a lot less land, and a lot more islands and seafront property in Florida. Anyone concerned down there?

    No one discusses it. And the Republican Governor has ordered all State agencies not to acknowledge nor talk about it. Officially, global warming and sea level rise do not exist. And Florida is doing nothing about it.
    Neither is Louisiana which is even lower laying for the most part. Horribly sadicon_sad.gif


    Things are being done but it's like putting a band aid on a severed artery.
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    Aug 31, 2015 3:25 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Art_Deco said
    paulflexes saidJust wait till hurricane Fred hits in a couple weeks. icon_eek.gif

    It's supposed to dissipate by Friday, but that's a long way off to forecast accurately.

    We shall see...

    You're off in California at present, so kinda detached from this.
    I'm coming back in 3.5 weeks and still have my place there, so I'm actually quite attached. I'd hate to lose stuff just before getting back.

    In rereading this my words did come across as a bit sharp. I meant to express the thought that at least you don't have to worry about these storms at present, being on a contract elsewhere. Not that California doesn't have enough environmental problems of its own.

    And you've also corrected me on your continued investment here. I guess I'd forgotten your arrangements, or just assumed you didn't keep your last property here.

    Being away from your place when a hurricane hits can be more stressful than being on site. Where you can confirm all the preparations have been properly made, to either sit through the storm or evacuate.

    We discussed it briefly for this Erika, and decided we'd sit it out, not thinking it would amount to much. Had plans to move the car, and strip the patio of all his herbs, but little else. C***** had new hurricane windows & doors installed in the entire complex 2 years ago, good to about 170 mph. Anything above that and the buildings themselves would tear apart. That's why we pay a fortune for hurricane insurance.

    And I'm not doing Hurricane Committee this year. I refuse to deal with the witch we have as our President (C**** is VP this year), She didn't ask me and I didn't volunteer. One less burden for me to worry about.

    But I look forward to your return in about a month. We must all get together. And maybe join you at the Hollywood beach. One of my favorites I've enjoyed for over 40 years.
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    Aug 31, 2015 5:51 PM GMT
    HikerSkier saidBesides waiting for the "Big One," are floridians also waiting for the gradual inundation of the state? Unless there is a sudden melt-off of the Greenland ice sheet, we won't be around to see it, but, with most of Dade county to be underwater with a 6 foot rise in sea level, there should be a lot less land, and a lot more islands and seafront property in Florida. Anyone concerned down there?

    My parent's house is in fancy Pinecrest, in "high pine country," 6 feet, 11 inches above sea level. An acre of eventual oceanfront! I'm telling them to hold onto it.
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    Sep 02, 2015 3:18 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said A talent like yours shouldn't be wasted.

    And what talents do YOU have? Other than stalking me, derailing threads, spamming political propaganda, and otherwise creating an unwelcome nuisance of yourself here?