Supreme Court Rules Against Kentucky County Clerk in Gay Marriage Case

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    Sep 01, 2015 12:35 AM GMT
    [Associate] Justice Elena Kagan, who oversees the 6th district, referred Davis' request to the full court, which denied the stay without comment. Kagan joined the majority in June when the court legalized gay marriage across the nation.

    Well, I don't see what the options are now. I'm surprised Kagan referred it to the full Court, since she could have acted on her own. But this seals it. There's no where else to appeal.

    It now reverts to the 6th District to resolve, that has already ruled against this clerk, possibly now imposing fines, jail, or both.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/reckoning-nears-clerk-resisting-sex-marriage-ruling-33439188
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    Sep 01, 2015 12:37 AM GMT
    The [entire] U.S. Supreme Court on Monday rejected a Kentucky county clerk's request to deny gay marriage licenses on the basis of religious objections.

    The court issued the one-line order without explanation.


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    Sep 01, 2015 1:20 AM GMT
    "Dan Canon, an attorney representing the couples, said he hopes Davis will simply hand his clients licenses on Tuesday, and the controversy will end. Davis behind bars is not an outcome they are hoping for, he said.

    "But if she continues to defy the court's order, we cannot let that continue unaddressed," he said Monday night. "It all depends on what happens tomorrow."

    Meanwhile, a couple that had been turned away went to Rowan County Attorney Cecil Watkins to ask that she be charged with official misconduct, a misdemeanor defined by state law as a public official who "refrains from performing a duty imposed upon him by law or clearly inherent in the nature of his office." The crime is punishable by up to a year in jail.

    Watkins cited a conflict of interest and forwarded the complaint to Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway, whose office will decide whether to appoint a special prosecutor, generally a county attorney from a surrounding jurisdiction, who would decide whether to file charges."
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    Sep 01, 2015 3:09 AM GMT
    Well, tomorrow (Tue, Sept 1), may be the turning point. LGBT couples are gonna appear at the county office, and if they don't get issued marriage licenses, the US 6th Court is likely to come down on this woman like a ton of bricks.

    She's exhausted all her options, the ENTIRE US Supreme Court rejecting her final appeal. This should be amusing to watch.
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    Sep 01, 2015 3:17 AM GMT
    She should have prayed harder.
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    Sep 01, 2015 3:24 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidShe should have prayed harder.

    Reports are that she's praying hard tonight. We'll see the results.
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    Sep 01, 2015 3:36 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    paulflexes saidShe should have prayed harder.

    Reports are that she's praying hard tonight. We'll see the results.
    Lying in bed and screaming "oh god!" at her dildo isn't exactly "praying hard." icon_razz.gif
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    Sep 01, 2015 10:45 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Art_Deco said
    paulflexes saidShe should have prayed harder.

    Reports are that she's praying hard tonight. We'll see the results.
    Lying in bed and screaming "oh god!" at her dildo isn't exactly "praying hard." icon_razz.gif
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    And I can hardly wait to see what happens today. I almost hope she refuses to issue licenses again. icon_twisted.gif
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    Sep 01, 2015 11:30 AM GMT
    Flrunner said
    And I can hardly wait to see what happens today. I almost hope she refuses to issue licenses again. icon_twisted.gif

    She'll also be defying the Governor of Kentucky. However, the Republican State Senate leader has been supporting her position (what would you expect). Meaning that legislative impeachment & removal from her elected position may not be likely.

    Which will put this back in the US 6th Circuit Court's hands, or back to the District Court where the case originated. Even if fined and jailed she would not necessarily lose her job as County Clerk. She also appears to have continued strong support from County voters. This could get even more interesting, now that her legal appeals have been exhausted.

    When the entire US Supreme Court turns you down it should be a signal to fold your cards, you've lost the game. Maybe she thinks she can spark a citizens' revolt or something. Christian preachers have been calling for armed conflict over same-sex marriage, perhaps she imagines this will be the spark.

    "Onward Christian soldiers..."
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    Sep 01, 2015 12:55 PM GMT
    Flrunner said
    paulflexes said
    Art_Deco said
    paulflexes saidShe should have prayed harder.

    Reports are that she's praying hard tonight. We'll see the results.
    Lying in bed and screaming "oh god!" at her dildo isn't exactly "praying hard." icon_razz.gif
    icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
    And I can hardly wait to see what happens today. I almost hope she refuses to issue licenses again. icon_twisted.gif


    She did. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 01, 2015 1:01 PM GMT
    An individual who is civil servant and who MUST follow the state madated policy and practice as prescribed by legislation. On all accounts she should be fired for insubordination, not performiing her wieghted JOB description responsibilites AND/ or any UNION she belongs too. Civil Servants are should resign from thier position due to confilct of interest / OR and at the very least, be remanded to another position with similar pay. Case in point; as a counselor if one feels they can not help an individual whom is seeking help from a state employee. The employee must inform his or her superior. I dont understand fundementally how she is able to stay iin her position? When the clerk took the position, she took an oath to uphold the State and US constitution.and empowered by her vested authority as prescribed by State AND US Legislation (law) . I dont recall anything in the oath to uphold personal religous statue in performing her vested duties? (I could be wrong, but dont recall such a thing)?

    If interested ,you can look at the oath online at the kentucky state employee oath.

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    Sep 01, 2015 2:04 PM GMT
    kscott6671 said
    Flrunner said
    paulflexes said
    Art_Deco said
    paulflexes saidShe should have prayed harder.

    Reports are that she's praying hard tonight. We'll see the results.
    Lying in bed and screaming "oh god!" at her dildo isn't exactly "praying hard." icon_razz.gif
    icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
    And I can hardly wait to see what happens today. I almost hope she refuses to issue licenses again. icon_twisted.gif

    She did. icon_rolleyes.gif

    As her supporters in the Clerk's Office shouted "Praise the Lord!" when she refused to issue same-sex marriage licenses once again. Defying the US Supreme's Court's denial of her appeal yesterday (Monday, 8-31).

    Apparently Kentucky is a Christian theocracy, not subject to the secular laws of the United States.
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    Sep 01, 2015 2:04 PM GMT
    kscott6671 said
    Flrunner said
    paulflexes said
    Art_Deco said
    paulflexes saidShe should have prayed harder.

    Reports are that she's praying hard tonight. We'll see the results.
    Lying in bed and screaming "oh god!" at her dildo isn't exactly "praying hard." icon_razz.gif
    icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
    And I can hardly wait to see what happens today. I almost hope she refuses to issue licenses again. icon_twisted.gif


    She did. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yes she just refused two more couples a marriage license. Its getting good now!
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    Sep 01, 2015 2:44 PM GMT
    My money is on jail. Saint Kim needs that to prove her martyrdom. She doubtless sees herself following MLK, Gandhi &al. Christian martyr!

    Really, watch: they'll have to handcuff her and haul her off. She'll sit in jail until it blows over, get bailed by a televangelist, and become one of his stars, raking in the money. Not a bad retirement plan. Carpe diem.
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    Sep 01, 2015 3:23 PM GMT
    Imagine how she would have reacted had she been denied a marriage license for her 4th marriage?
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    KyMaverick saidAn individual who is civil servant and who MUST follow the state madated policy and practice as prescribed by legislation. On all accounts she should be fired for insubordination, not performiing her wieghted JOB description responsibilites AND/ or any UNION she belongs too. Civil Servants are should resign from thier position due to confilct of interest / OR and at the very least, be remanded to another position with similar pay. Case in point; as a counselor if one feels they can not help an individual whom is seeking help from a state employee. The employee must inform his or her superior. I dont understand fundementally how she is able to stay iin her position? When the clerk took the position, she took an oath to uphold the State and US constitution.and empowered by her vested authority as prescribed by State AND US Legislation (law) . I dont recall anything in the oath to uphold personal religous statue in performing her vested duties? (I could be wrong, but dont recall such a thing)?

    If interested ,you can look at the oath online at the kentucky state employee oath.



    County clerk is an elective office, so she can't simply be fired. There are processes for removal from office, and those have been initiated.

    Part of the problem is that the people doing the investigation are also elected officials and will be fearful of consequences at the next election.

    If she's held in contempt, I suspect that she'll end up resigning. When the federal judge lowers the boom on her, it won't be pretty. She may go to jail and the county may be facing pretty severe fines.
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    Sep 01, 2015 3:50 PM GMT
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    If she's held in contempt, I suspect that she'll end up resigning. When the federal judge lowers the boom on her, it won't be pretty. She may go to jail and the county may be facing pretty severe fines.

    No, I think she's got Right Wing and Fundamentalistic backers who'd like to see her be made a martyr. And she'll never have to pay any fines personally, someone else will pick up the tab.

    I'm not sure if the County can be held responsible for her actions, and fined. But I wouldn't be surprised if she requests the County to pay for her legal bills, and it agrees. The residents there still largely support her. Praise the Lord!
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    If she's held in contempt, I suspect that she'll end up resigning. When the federal judge lowers the boom on her, it won't be pretty. She may go to jail and the county may be facing pretty severe fines.

    No, I think she's got Right Wing and Fundamentalistic backers who'd like to see her be made a martyr. And she'll never have to pay any fines personally, someone else will pick up the tab.

    I'm not sure if the County can be held responsible for her actions, and fined. But I wouldn't be surprised if she requests the County to pay for her legal bills, and it agrees. The residents there still largely support her. Praise the Lord!


    She's an officer of the county, so would have some immunity under normal circumstances. If the county decides to support her, it could be on the hook for contempt charges and fines.

    That she and her entire office staff have been summoned in to federal court on Thursday doesn't bode well for any of them. Hopefully the Judge will give the lot of them the choice of either agreeing to comply with the order or proceed directly to jail.

    They really need to be made an example of.
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    Sep 01, 2015 5:23 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    kscott6671 said
    Flrunner said
    paulflexes said
    Art_Deco said
    paulflexes saidShe should have prayed harder.

    Reports are that she's praying hard tonight. We'll see the results.
    Lying in bed and screaming "oh god!" at her dildo isn't exactly "praying hard." icon_razz.gif
    icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
    And I can hardly wait to see what happens today. I almost hope she refuses to issue licenses again. icon_twisted.gif

    She did. icon_rolleyes.gif

    As her supporters in the Clerk's Office shouted "Praise the Lord!" when she refused to issue same-sex marriage licenses once again. Defying the US Supreme's Court's denial of her appeal yesterday (Monday, 8-31).

    Apparently Kentucky is a Christian theocracy, not subject to the secular laws of the United States.




    As Examples, Right Wing Tea Turd Sham icon_rolleyes.gif




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    Sep 01, 2015 5:28 PM GMT
    rkyjockdn said
    Art_Deco said
    rkyjockdn said
    If she's held in contempt, I suspect that she'll end up resigning. When the federal judge lowers the boom on her, it won't be pretty. She may go to jail and the county may be facing pretty severe fines.

    No, I think she's got Right Wing and Fundamentalistic backers who'd like to see her be made a martyr. And she'll never have to pay any fines personally, someone else will pick up the tab.

    I'm not sure if the County can be held responsible for her actions, and fined. But I wouldn't be surprised if she requests the County to pay for her legal bills, and it agrees. The residents there still largely support her. Praise the Lord!


    She's an officer of the county, so would have some immunity under normal circumstances. If the county decides to support her, it could be on the hook for contempt charges and fines.

    That she and her entire office staff have been summoned in to federal court on Thursday doesn't bode well for any of them. Hopefully the Judge will give the lot of them the choice of either agreeing to comply with the order or proceed directly to jail.

    They really need to be made an example of.

    I can hardly wait. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 01, 2015 5:36 PM GMT
    rkyjockdn said
    Art_Deco said
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    If she's held in contempt, I suspect that she'll end up resigning. When the federal judge lowers the boom on her, it won't be pretty. She may go to jail and the county may be facing pretty severe fines.

    No, I think she's got Right Wing and Fundamentalistic backers who'd like to see her be made a martyr. And she'll never have to pay any fines personally, someone else will pick up the tab.

    I'm not sure if the County can be held responsible for her actions, and fined. But I wouldn't be surprised if she requests the County to pay for her legal bills, and it agrees. The residents there still largely support her. Praise the Lord!


    She's an officer of the county, so would have some immunity under normal circumstances. If the county decides to support her, it could be on the hook for contempt charges and fines.

    That she and her entire office staff have been summoned in to federal court on Thursday doesn't bode well for any of them. Hopefully the Judge will give the lot of them the choice of either agreeing to comply with the order or proceed directly to jail.

    They really need to be made an example of.




    That is quite unique, to summon the entire staff to court. Lord of her house rules, they are just following Kim's Godly orders. Just as asked by the people, "who gave you authority to dismiss the court orders"? She tells the judge and court, "I have Gods authority".

    BuZZZZZZZZ, wrong answer......."I find you in contempt and sentence you to one year in county jail", "Your staff will issue licenses in your absence", any objections"? Nope, court dismissed, "bailiff, please escort Mrs Davis for processing"


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    Sep 01, 2015 6:38 PM GMT
    So now we have to wait till Thursday. icon_sad.gifThe Judge summoned her and her entire office to Court Thursday morning. Lets hope this will be the end of the road for her. Now I have to go get more popcorn.
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    Flrunner saidSo now we have to wait till Thursday. icon_sad.gifThe Judge summoned her and her entire office to Court Thursday morning. Lets hope this will be the end of the road for her. Now I have to go get more popcorn.

    It may result in these LGBT couples finally getting their marriage licences. Which will be good.

    But the end of the road for the County Clerk? Not likely. If the Federal Court assigns any penalities, fines or imprisonment or both. She'll be enshrined as a martyr of the Religious Right, standing strong against the evil perverted gays, and the Librul courts. She'll become a poster child for the Right, and begin a new career as one of their heroes.
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    Sep 01, 2015 7:27 PM GMT
    Kim Davis probably envisions herself as a current day Rosa Parks, a simple woman standing up for justice. Rosa Parks risked her life and went to jail where she was no doubt mistreated. Kim continues to receive a publicly financed paycheck while her frump ass sits in a publicly financed comfortably air conditioned well furnished office. She's no Rosa Parks. She's Theophilus Eugene "Bull" Connor blocking the courthouse door to people who have peacefully and successfully gained rights that others were granted by birth.
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    Sep 01, 2015 7:44 PM GMT
    I read about this on Yahoo News and don't know why I read the comments. If the woman doesn't want to the job citing religious objections, she needs to quit and let someone else do it. She can't argue her religious convictions when it comes to denying someone else their civil rights. How many people walk in to the clerk's office who were divorced? That was expressly forbidden by Jesus in the Bible.