Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Defies US Supreme Court, Turns Down Gay Couples Yet Again

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    Sep 01, 2015 1:37 PM GMT
    Despite yesterday's (Mon, 8-31) US Supreme Court denial of her final appeal, a Kentucky County Clerk again refused to issue marriage licenses to gay couples, citing "God's authority".

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/same-sex-marriage-kentucky-clerk-defies-supreme-court-turns-down-n419351
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    Sep 01, 2015 1:41 PM GMT
    Kentucky Clerk Still Won't Issue Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    On Tuesday morning, Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis' office denied the licenses to at least two couples. At first, Davis was in her office with the door closed and blinds drawn. But she emerged a few minutes later, telling the couples and the activists gathered there that her office is continuing to deny the licenses "under God's authority."

    The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday declined to intervene in the case, leaving Davis no legal grounds to refuse to grant the licenses. A district judge could now hold her in contempt of court, which can carry steep fines or jail time. As an elected official, Davis can't be fired.

    Davis asked David Moore and David Ermold to leave her office after they were denied a license Tuesday morning — the couple's fourth rejection. They refused, surrounded by reporters and cameras.

    "We're not leaving until we have a license," Ermold said.

    "Then you're going to have a long day," Davis told him.

    From the back of the room, Davis' supporters said: "Praise the Lord! ... Stand your ground."

    Other activists shouted that Davis is a bigot and told her: "Do your job."

    Davis has said her deeply held Christian beliefs don't let her endorse gay marriages.


    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/clerk-issue-gay-marriage-licenses-court-ruling-33447383
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    Sep 01, 2015 2:18 PM GMT
    To me this is somewhat similar to what we had in the US military. You joined voluntarily (even during the Draft era you could claim Consciouous Objector status, to avoid service, as apparently our Commander-in-Chief wannabe Bernie Sanders did, or serve in some non-combat capacity. Or contrive countless bogus draft exemptions, as tough-talking rich boy Donald Trump did).

    You accepted all the consequences that military service entailed, including killing people. If you didn't wanna do that, then you didn't join. If you did join, your oath of office said you agreed to do all that. Not only did I take that oath myself, but I administered it to many soldiers, so I know what it says.

    This Kentucky County Clerk voluntarily ran for office, and swore to uphold the laws & Constitution of her State and the US. She can't now claim an exemption, knowing full well what she had agreed to do. And for a rather nice salary in Kentucky, I might note.
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    Sep 01, 2015 4:08 PM GMT
    Now this County Clerk, and all her deputies, must appear in a US Federal Court on Thursday morning. This should be interesting.

    "The Kentucky clerk who won't issue marriage licenses and all her deputy clerks have been called for a federal court hearing Thursday morning, her attorney said.

    Rowan County Attorney Cecil Watkins says the federal court alerted him that a hearing is scheduled for 11 a.m. Thursday in Ashland [Kentucky]."

    "The clerk's husband, Joe Davis, came by to check on his wife. He said she has received death threats but remains committed to her faith and is "standing for God'."

    Joe Davis said he believes in the Second Amendment [right to bear arms] and is not afraid: 'I'm an old redneck hillbilly, that's all I've got to say. Don't come knocking on my door.'

    He pointed to the gay rights protesters gathered on the courthouse lawn and said: 'They want us to accept their beliefs and their ways. But they won't accept our beliefs and our ways'."


    Now I think we know what we're dealing with in this situation. Perhaps a Federal judge can educate them, or at least make their bigotry less enjoyable.

    http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/national-international/Kentucky-Clerk-Denies-Gay-Marriage-Licenses-Supreme-Court-323581391.html
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    Sep 01, 2015 4:20 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidTo me this is somewhat similar to what we had in the US military. You joined voluntarily (even during the Draft era you could claim Consciouous Objector status, to avoid service, as apparently our Commander-in-Chief wannabe Bernie Sanders did, or serve in some non-combat capacity. Or contrive countless bogus draft exemptions, as tough-talking rich boy Donald Trump did).

    You accepted all the consequences that military service entailed, including killing people. If you didn't wanna do that, then you didn't join. If you did join, your oath of office said you agreed to do all that. Not only did I take that oath myself, but I administered it to many soldiers, so I know what it says.

    This Kentucky County Clerk voluntarily ran for office, and swore to uphold the laws & Constitution of her State and the US. She can't now claim an exemption, knowing full well what she had agreed to do. And for a rather nice salary in Kentucky, I might note.
    You are quick to criticize Bernie Sanders for conciouous objector status but you overlook the fact that Bill Clinton technically pulled the same shot by attending a university in Great Britain during the Vietnam War era. Many Vietnam Vets consider Bill Clinton a draft dodger. But you don't want to hear the truth about the ethically challenged Clintons because you want the most corrupt, deciteful, and incompetent democratic candidate for President, the hapless Hillary ho. You definitely do not have this great country's best interests at heart by supporting this power hungry whore for President. You of all people should know better but unfortunately the total opposite is the truth.
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    Sep 01, 2015 4:41 PM GMT

    For all right wing ADULTS, such display of emotional immaturity, Is she pushing for a movie deal? icon_rolleyes.gif

    A Right Wing Norma Rae? icon_redface.gif




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    Sep 01, 2015 4:53 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidYou are quick to criticize Bernie Sanders for conciouous objector status but you overlook the fact that Bill Clinton technically pulled the same shot by attending a university in Great Britain during the Vietnam War era. Many Vietnam Vets consider Bill Clinton a draft dodger. But you don't want to hear the truth about the ethically challenged Clintons because you want the most corrupt, deciteful, and incompetent democratic candidate for President, the hapless Hillary ho. You definitely do not have this great country's best interests at heart by supporting this power hungry whore for President. You of all people should know better but unfortunately the total opposite is the truth.

    Let's get a few things clear. I had a college "2S" draft deferment myself in the 1960s. Millions of us did. That was a decision made by Congress, not by us.

    I would have gone to college anyway, as did Clinton. Conscientious Objector status is a different category for which you must specifically plead your case, not automatic. It means you refuse to fight for your country, and claim a rare special exemption for yourself, not that you are protected by a regular category that Congress has designated, that they having been determined to be for the greater public good.

    Within weeks of my deferment ending in 1969 I voluntarily enlisted, as a lowly Army Private. Bill Clinton is 3 years older than me, and shortly after I enlisted the draft was modified, and then stopped. It never applied to Clinton when he wasn't in a deferred category.

    And your incessant use of the words "ho" and "whore" regarding Hillary Clinton negates your arguments about her. Now if you wanna be taken seriously in discussions about Hillary you can drop the childish terms, and discuss political substance.

    BTW, I met her, and Bill, a number of times. She was a very nice & gracious lady. I must say, however, I always thought Bill had rather shifty eyes. But then I'm just an insignificant person, and hardly qualified to judge the great & powerful. As I assume you to be, as well, no more important than me. Drop the "ho" slander - your comments may get more attention & respect.

    Now let's return to the point of this thread, the bizarre behavior of this County Clerk in Kentucky.
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    Sep 02, 2015 1:14 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    roadbikeRob saidYou are quick to criticize Bernie Sanders for conciouous objector status but you overlook the fact that Bill Clinton technically pulled the same shot by attending a university in Great Britain during the Vietnam War era. Many Vietnam Vets consider Bill Clinton a draft dodger. But you don't want to hear the truth about the ethically challenged Clintons because you want the most corrupt, deciteful, and incompetent democratic candidate for President, the hapless Hillary ho. You definitely do not have this great country's best interests at heart by supporting this power hungry whore for President. You of all people should know better but unfortunately the total opposite is the truth.

    Let's get a few things clear. I had a college "2S" draft deferment myself in the 1960s. Millions of us did. That was a decision made by Congress, not by us.

    I would have gone to college anyway, as did Clinton. Conscientious Objector status is a different category for which you must specifically plead your case, not automatic. It means you refuse to fight for your country, and claim a rare special exemption for yourself, not that you are protected by a regular category that Congress has designated, that they having been determined to be for the greater public good.

    Within weeks of my deferment ending in 1969 I voluntarily enlisted, as a lowly Army Private. Bill Clinton is 3 years older than me, and shortly after I enlisted the draft was modified, and then stopped. It never applied to Clinton when he wasn't in a deferred category.

    And your incessant use of the words "ho" and "whore" regarding Hillary Clinton negates your arguments about her. Now if you wanna be taken seriously in discussions about Hillary you can drop the childish terms, and discuss political substance.

    BTW, I met her, and Bill, a number of times. She was a very nice & gracious lady. I must say, however, I always thought Bill had rather shifty eyes. But then I'm just an insignificant person, and hardly qualified to judge the great & powerful. As I assume you to be, as well, no more important than me. Drop the "ho" slander - your comments may get more attention & respect.

    Now let's return to the point of this thread, the bizarre behavior of this County Clerk in Kentucky.
    The "ho" slander is something that power hungry whore earned as far as I am concerned. Nothing childish about it. She is a hapless, power hungry, incompetent women that cannot be trusted and she has had everything handed to her on a silver platter. Other female politicians earned their stature and respect, Hillary never did. If anything lacks substance on here, it is all you guys blind support of this clearly incompetent, deciteful bitch. God help the Democratic Party if it's members are stupid enough to nominate this glorified trailer trash. God help the U.S. if a large percentage of registered voters are both blind enough and stupid enough to elect her crooked, untrustworthy ass President. You need to get out of your fantasyland on how great Hillary is and support a more qualified, trustworthy, and electable candidate like Bernie Sanders or Martin O'Malley.