“Why can’t people just use condoms?”

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    Sep 02, 2015 12:59 AM GMT
    "I began volunteering for an organization that was running a “100%” campaign, handing out condoms, lube, pins, and pamphlets, on street corners and in bars, that said “100%”. The intention of this marketing tool was to let people know that if everyone used condoms 100% of the time—everyone who is HIV-positive, everyone who is HIV-negative, everyone who is having sex at all—then we would eradicate this epidemic by the year 2000. We had people wear the shirts and pins as a sign of their commitment to 100% condom use. It made perfect sense."





    http://positivelyaware.com/articles/what-about-condoms



    The hard truth: we need a new approach and relying on trust whether in online profiles or in personal dialogue is a proven failure.

    So let’s make it a goal of promoting what we know and engage in the benefits.

    1. PrEP works. Its implementation is challening. Guys, who are at risk, need to understand they are at risk and to take preventative stets. We need to make access to doctors and medication easy and affordable.

    2. Treatment as Prevention (TasP) is based on science and documented studies that conclusively show that HIV+ individuals on meds with an undetectable viral load have close to a 0 percent chance of transmitting HIV. The challenge here, as documented in a recent conference in an article by David Fawcett, is we have a very leaky cascade of care and only 28 percent of HIV+ individuals reach and maintain an undetectable viral load. We need to fix this.

    3. And condoms work — as long as one uses them 100 percent of the time.

    The good news: all these work right now.

    The bad news: in 2015, we still do not have a cure for HIV/AIDS.


    http://lgbtv.co.uk/2015/09/01/who-do-you-trust/
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    Sep 02, 2015 2:00 AM GMT
    timmm55 said"I began volunteering for an organization that was running a “100%” campaign, handing out condoms, lube, pins, and pamphlets, on street corners and in bars, that said “100%”. The intention of this marketing tool was to let people know that if everyone used condoms 100% of the time—everyone who is HIV-positive, everyone who is HIV-negative, everyone who is having sex at all—then we would eradicate this epidemic by the year 2000. We had people wear the shirts and pins as a sign of their commitment to 100% condom use. It made perfect sense."

    http://positivelyaware.com/articles/what-about-condoms
    The hard truth: we need a new approach and relying on trust whether in online profiles or in personal dialogue is a proven failure.

    So let’s make it a goal of promoting what we know and engage in the benefits.

    1. PrEP works. Its implementation is challening. Guys, who are at risk, need to understand they are at risk and to take preventative stets. We need to make access to doctors and medication easy and affordable.

    2. Treatment as Prevention (TasP) is based on science and documented studies that conclusively show that HIV+ individuals on meds with an undetectable viral load have close to a 0 percent chance of transmitting HIV. The challenge here, as documented in a recent conference in an article by David Fawcett, is we have a very leaky cascade of care and only 28 percent of HIV+ individuals reach and maintain an undetectable viral load. We need to fix this.

    3. And condoms work — as long as one uses them 100 percent of the time.

    The good news: all these work right now.

    The bad news: in 2015, we still do not have a cure for HIV/AIDS.

    http://lgbtv.co.uk/2015/09/01/who-do-you-trust/


    Why do you bring down condoms to push PrEP? You might do the same without speaking negatively of condoms which are a GREAT practical solution for people who wear them.

    Also, people promoting condoms dont expect "everyone to wear condoms every time they have sex" like you say. Obviously neg people in monogamous relationships dont need to do it.

    You should also stop suggesting to use PrEP as a substitution for condoms as PrEP don't protect against many other STDs! So condoms are still necessary.

    Your bareback agenda is transparent.
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    Sep 02, 2015 2:06 AM GMT
    David666k said
    timmm55 said"I began volunteering for an organization that was running a “100%” campaign, handing out condoms, lube, pins, and pamphlets, on street corners and in bars, that said “100%”. The intention of this marketing tool was to let people know that if everyone used condoms 100% of the time—everyone who is HIV-positive, everyone who is HIV-negative, everyone who is having sex at all—then we would eradicate this epidemic by the year 2000. We had people wear the shirts and pins as a sign of their commitment to 100% condom use. It made perfect sense."

    http://positivelyaware.com/articles/what-about-condoms
    The hard truth: we need a new approach and relying on trust whether in online profiles or in personal dialogue is a proven failure.

    So let’s make it a goal of promoting what we know and engage in the benefits.

    1. PrEP works. Its implementation is challening. Guys, who are at risk, need to understand they are at risk and to take preventative stets. We need to make access to doctors and medication easy and affordable.

    2. Treatment as Prevention (TasP) is based on science and documented studies that conclusively show that HIV+ individuals on meds with an undetectable viral load have close to a 0 percent chance of transmitting HIV. The challenge here, as documented in a recent conference in an article by David Fawcett, is we have a very leaky cascade of care and only 28 percent of HIV+ individuals reach and maintain an undetectable viral load. We need to fix this.

    3. And condoms work — as long as one uses them 100 percent of the time.

    The good news: all these work right now.

    The bad news: in 2015, we still do not have a cure for HIV/AIDS.

    http://lgbtv.co.uk/2015/09/01/who-do-you-trust/


    Why do you bring down condoms to push PrEP? You might do the same without speaking negatively of condoms which are a GREAT practical solution for people who wear them.

    Also, people promoting condoms dont expect "everyone to wear condoms every time they have sex" like you say. Obviously neg people in monogamous relationships dont need to do it.

    You should also stop suggesting to use PrEP as a substitution for condoms as PrEP don't protect against many other STDs! So condoms are still necessary.

    Your bareback agenda is transparent.


    The two articles make it clear.

    Did you not read them, and just post your usual comments out of habit?
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    Sep 02, 2015 2:25 AM GMT
    ^ Oh, it says inside the article. It's unfortunate that it didn't occur to you to mention that tiny little detail about STD's in your anti-condom thread right? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 02, 2015 5:05 PM GMT
    "3. And condoms work — as long as one uses them 100 percent of the time."

    The article isn't anti-condoms.

    The subject is “Why can’t people just use condoms?” not “Why people should use condoms?”

    It doesn't discuss pregnancy either. Or serosorting, or abstinence or a hundred other issues.

    I noticed in the thread on BJs you didn't mention STDs either.

    Also if the discussion *IS* STDs and condoms there need to be mention of STDs condoms don't prevent.

    "People generally think if they use a condom they won’t catch anything and this is very wrong. When used properly a condom is quite effective in stopping the spread of certain STDs such as Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, HIV/AIDS, and most strains of Hepatitis, But is not very effective at all against diseases like the Herpes Simplex Virus strains 1 and 2, HPV the cause of Genital Warts and Cervical Cancer, Genital Crabs or Pubic Lice, as well as Body Lice otherwise known as Scabies."


    http://yourstdhelp.com/condoms_and_stds.html