My 1st travel has been fucked up..thanks to my str8 freind..any advice??

  • meezo

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    Sep 05, 2015 12:05 AM GMT
    Hey All,
    I don,t know if it is bad luck or what???!!!
    I have planned to travel to Budapest and everything is ready just waiting for my travel date nearly after 3 weeks,my travel is gay oriented(I booked at a gay guest house,decided and prepared myself to visit all the gay places there,so my travel will be 99.9999% gay travel) what happened today is really a disaster..
    I am in the closet,and I told my best friend(we r really more than this,u can say brothers or more) that I am travelling,I didn't expect his response:Ah ,Ok I am coming with u..icon_redface.gificon_redface.gificon_exclaim.gificon_exclaim.gificon_cry.gificon_cry.gificon_cry.gificon_cry.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif
    Me:u r welcome icon_smile.gif but do u think u will make it and u will prepare everything? and yes he can ,I didn't expect this to happen especially we had always planned to travel together and never make it coz usually he is not serious.
    Now I have to cancel my booking with the gay guesthouse after my special requests for them and after my arrangements with them and to cancel all my plans.
    plz guys any help how to solve it?
    he is really amazing person I love him,but it is not allowed to be gay in our country and no way I will let him suspect that I am gay.
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    Sep 05, 2015 1:14 AM GMT
    What? I thought Israel was pro-gay. In fact one of my favorite flight instructors (and long-time friend) is from Israel, and even flew fighter jets for the Israeli Air Force back in the day...and he's openly bi (and really fucking sexy).
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    Sep 05, 2015 3:01 AM GMT
    Duh - Paul, Israel may be pro gay, but the OP is Palestinian or Arab.

    @OP You have a choice - either tell your friend that you really want to travel alone this time - (you want to experience what it is like to be totally on your own??), or you change your plans, and travel with him (maybe a shorter trip) with no gay venues involved.

    Weren't you trying to get to the USA or France to live? Worth pursuing, as it seems you may have no future love-wise in the mid-east. Have you explored getting asylum in a Scandinavian country? (Being an Israeli citizen - if you are - may get in the way, but it's worth exploring)
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    Sep 05, 2015 5:46 AM GMT
    blah blah blah
    cry in a pillow
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    Sep 05, 2015 6:33 AM GMT
    I do not know why you cancelled all your bookings and ruined your plans. As best friends, there should be no secrets between the two of you. If he is your best friend and as you say, you are like brothers and love each other. Then he should not be opposed to your sexual preferences. You should have told him your travel destination and plans and then see his response. Maybe then he would not have been eager to travel with you and ruin your plans.
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    Sep 05, 2015 4:45 PM GMT
    I wouldn't change my plans , just fill him in when you are ready to arrive to the location ..
    If he is your friend , he will keep your sexual orientation as a secret ...
    He might also be attracted to you , that would be the reason he wants to go ...
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    Sep 05, 2015 4:48 PM GMT
    Domino_dancer saidI do not know why you cancelled all your bookings and ruined your plans. As best friends, there should be no secrets between the two of you. If he is your best friend and as you say, you are like brothers and love each other. Then he should not be opposed to your sexual preferences.

    Yeah, and get himself killed as a result. Maybe you can be forgiven for being totally oblivious to the plight of gay Palestinians (which he seems to be) living in Israel or Palestine. Word gets out that he is gay, and it is not unlikely that a brother, sister, father, uncle or village elders of whatever town he cones from will arrange to have him murdered for bringing shame on the family and community.
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    Sep 05, 2015 4:56 PM GMT
    bonaparts saidblah blah blah
    cry in a pillow


    Of course, the thread could not be complete without that epitome of empathy, Bonafart, chiming in on the sorry plight of another RJr.

    You and David3k should both get a life.

    Hottjoe, going to come to Bonafart's defense?
  • metta

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    Sep 05, 2015 5:02 PM GMT
    Just tell him that you are gay and you are going to a gay resort. Honesty will make it a lot easier. If he knows you as well as you say he does, he probably already knows that you are gay.

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  • meezo

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    Sep 07, 2015 6:45 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidWhat? I thought Israel was pro-gay. In fact one of my favorite flight instructors (and long-time friend) is from Israel, and even flew fighter jets for the Israeli Air Force back in the day...and he's openly bi (and really fucking sexy).

    Thanks for the reply
    I am Palestinian living in Jerusalem.
  • meezo

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    Sep 07, 2015 6:45 AM GMT
    HikerSkier saidDuh - Paul, Israel may be pro gay, but the OP is Palestinian or Arab.

    @OP You have a choice - either tell your friend that you really want to travel alone this time - (you want to experience what it is like to be totally on your own??), or you change your plans, and travel with him (maybe a shorter trip) with no gay venues involved.

    Weren't you trying to get to the USA or France to live? Worth pursuing, as it seems you may have no future love-wise in the mid-east. Have you explored getting asylum in a Scandinavian country? (Being an Israeli citizen - if you are - may get in the way, but it's worth exploring)

    Thanks man.
    Yes that is exactly the situation
  • meezo

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    Sep 07, 2015 6:46 AM GMT
    bonaparts saidblah blah blah
    cry in a pillow

    yeah that is what I am doing,thanks for making it a lot easier..icon_lol.gif
  • meezo

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    Sep 07, 2015 6:50 AM GMT
    metta saidJust tell him that you are gay and you are going to a gay resort. Honesty will make it a lot easier. If he knows you as well as you say he does, he probably already knows that you are gay.

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    well,I hope it is easy as u think,but it is not like this,I don,t know if he thinks I am gay,but I know at least his thoughts are anti-gay from previous spontaneous discussion with him,+it will be a scandal+I will put myself in a risk.
    thank you.
  • meezo

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    Sep 07, 2015 6:52 AM GMT
    Domino_dancer saidI do not know why you cancelled all your bookings and ruined your plans. As best friends, there should be no secrets between the two of you. If he is your best friend and as you say, you are like brothers and love each other. Then he should not be opposed to your sexual preferences. You should have told him your travel destination and plans and then see his response. Maybe then he would not have been eager to travel with you and ruin your plans.

    Thanks for your reply,but it is not that simple as you think,as I stated in previous response,thank you for trying to help man.
  • meezo

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    Sep 07, 2015 6:54 AM GMT
    neffa saidI wouldn't change my plans , just fill him in when you are ready to arrive to the location ..
    If he is your friend , he will keep your sexual orientation as a secret ...
    He might also be attracted to you , that would be the reason he wants to go ...

    That would be a very ideal situation,but no way I will let him know about my sexual orientation,it is not that easy as I stated before.
    Thanks man for your response.