Ian Thorpe: Then and Now

  • calipally

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    Jan 31, 2009 3:00 AM GMT
    I can't believe and Olympic athlete of his caliber would allow himself to get like this. Sad, really.

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    Jan 31, 2009 3:27 AM GMT
    he was an Olympic athlete mate, hes retired now and if he doesn't feel like maintaining some physic from when he was pro, then so be it, I think hes earnt the choice and doesn't need to be judged don't you?
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    Jan 31, 2009 3:34 AM GMT
    He still swims better than I do.
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    Jan 31, 2009 4:30 AM GMT
    lilTanker saidhe was an Olympic athlete mate, hes retired now and if he doesn't feel like maintaining some physic from when he was pro, then so be it, I think hes earnt the choice and doesn't need to be judged don't you?


    agreed.
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    Jan 31, 2009 4:54 AM GMT
    Can I judge him for trading his speedo for dork shorts, sorry, I mean board shorts?
  • silverfox

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    Jan 31, 2009 5:01 AM GMT
    I would do him before i would do carrot top.
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    Jan 31, 2009 5:32 AM GMT
    He's retired from competition. I think he can let himself go if he wants to.

    Ask Arnold..

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  • swimbikerun

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    Jan 31, 2009 5:57 AM GMT
    Kinda harsh pdxpally. Fitness comes and goes. In 2007 I did my first Ironman. In 2008 I broke my arm and wasn't able to do anything. In fact, I was so impatient, I re-broke my arm and had to have a bone graft.
    I do not know Ian Thorpe personally but I susect he's going through a lot of stuff emotionally. And even heavy, I'm sure he could kick your ass in the pool! icon_eek.gif
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    Jan 31, 2009 6:06 AM GMT
    I cannot believe Thorpe could possibly look that way - and he's not even 30! And could that picture really be Arnold? I can't believe it! You see him in slacks and a European cut shirt and he still looks okay - so how could he have gone to seed like that? Someone so into health all his life - can we really believe that pic?

    If so - it is SO wrong!
  • calipally

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    Jan 31, 2009 6:15 AM GMT
    Big difference between Arnold at 26 and Arnold at 60.

    And Thorpe is 26...Hardly an old man. My post was to illustrate how sad it is that a top level athlete would just let himself go.

    And no, he couldn't kick my ass in the pool at his weight (6'5"/250# est.). I've been swimming competitively since I was 4.
  • swimbikerun

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    Jan 31, 2009 6:31 AM GMT
    pdxpally said
    And no, he couldn't kick my ass in the pool at his weight (6'5"/250# est.). I've been swimming competitively since I was 4.

    Lol! Please, let us know how your records compare to Mr. Thorpe's:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Thorpe
    Aside from swimming since the age of four, that is. I've had guys much heavier than I, smoke me in the water.
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    Jan 31, 2009 6:47 AM GMT
    I think he's still amazingly attractive. Who are you to judge?
  • josephmovie

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    Jan 31, 2009 7:00 AM GMT
    There's no doubt he's bigger, but I think the real problem is the too small black shorts. Put him in a speedo and he'd look like like an older, and possibly sexier, version of his younger self.
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    Jan 31, 2009 7:16 AM GMT
    Sean_85 saidI think he's still amazingly attractive. Who are you to judge?


    I agree with the no need to judge thing, but "amazingly"? I mean, if I wasn't taken, I'd go on a date with him. Of course, I'd make sure I'd keep him very "active" to help get him back in shape. icon_redface.gif
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    Jan 31, 2009 7:32 AM GMT
    Sean_85 saidI think he's still amazingly attractive. Who are you to judge?


    If you saw this dude on the street and you didn't know who he was, I doubt you would do a double take and say, "Wow, he's hot!"

    And swimbikerun?, you don't know me or what I've done so save your "lol's". Do you actually READ the post or do you just spout off nonsensically? His best times were from 1999-2005 and I never said I was faster than him during his career. So if you gained 25 pounds, how well do you think you would compete in those triathlons you love so much?

    I thought so.

    AND BTW ALL THOSE WHO HAVE PROFILES ON THIS SITE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS SITE IS ABOUT? READ THE LOGO UP AT THE TOP LEFT. WHAT DOES IT SAY? NOW READ MY ORIGINAL POST KEEPING IN MIND WHAT SITE YOU'RE ON! I MADE AN OBSERVATION ABOUT A FORMER PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE.

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    Jan 31, 2009 7:51 AM GMT
    Sean_85 saidI think he's still amazingly attractive. Who are you to judge?
    I still think hes hot and I'd do him!
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    Jan 31, 2009 8:16 AM GMT
    First: Swimmers eat so much food. Its not just phelps, but almost all upper level swimmers eat and eat and eat.

    Second: It is quite common for swimmers to gain a lot of weight after they stop swimming because they don't connect the fact that the way they ate all their life was due to their sport... they think they can continue.

    As someone who's seen it with a lot of the people he used to swim with, I understand what happened. Its actually more common than not.
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    Jan 31, 2009 8:25 AM GMT
    PDX - when lose your swimmer's body and 'let youself go' be sure to post your pix here so we can deride you - non judgementally of course.
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    Jan 31, 2009 8:34 AM GMT
    Oh, come on. We deride everybody we can, and some we can't.
    What makes Ian Thorpe untouchable?

    Maybe I'm just saying that because I didn't care for him in the "before" picture, either. (:
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    Jan 31, 2009 11:58 AM GMT
    The non-judgement seems to be non-based on his athletic performance, rather non-based upon his appearance. The applicable criteria for an athletic judgement don't really work, since he isn't competing.

    If it is true that because this site is called Real Jock that the only benchmark for a post like this one is athletic performance then how are former athletes who are now sedentary (ordinary beach-goers or Governors) even relevant? What is there to talk about? (Of course we all know that the name Real Jock actually translates into Lets Bitch.)

    The OP's comment isn't about athletic performance it is about efficiency as a sexual icon (the Thorpedo isn't performing athletically in the first photo either, he is merely standing next to a swimming pool looking hot). The subtext goes formerly hot, now not.

    Hot or not is a judgement call. Athletic performance is about numbers and not appearance.

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    Jan 31, 2009 12:19 PM GMT
    Leave him alone. He is probably eating all the foods he couldnt eat while he was dieting when swimming. He is retired and he wants to relax. Im sure he will get back into some kind of decent shape. Hey....he still has his ab marks.
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    Jan 31, 2009 4:19 PM GMT
    I think it's sad too. He's had some injuries and had been sick, but I think the "letting himself go" is part of the bigger issue of figuring out what he wants in life.

    It's hard to see him walk away from so much talent while he's still in his prime (I though this was the gist of the OP's comment), but he'd be worse off if he kept pushing himself to do something so demanding if he didn't find it rewarding.

    Here's an article that came out in the Guardian when he retired in 2006.

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    Five-times Olympic champion Ian Thorpe put an end to days of speculation last night when he announced his immediate retirement from swimming.

    Thorpe, 24, has not competed for two years after taking a break after the Athens Olympics. After suffering a series of illnesses and injuries, his plan was to return for next March's World Championships, but now it seems that he lacks the motivation to compete at the top level.

    In a press conference broadcast across Australia, Thorpe kept his audience on tenterhooks for several minutes, outlining what has been on his mind in recent times before confirming his career was over. He stated that while his Los Angeles-based coach Milt Nelms had helped bring up his fitness levels, now was an appropriate time to focus on other aspects of his life.

    "As I got fit, physically fit, my mind also got fit and I started asking a lot of questions," said a surprisingly upbeat Thorpe. "I started to look at myself, not just as a swimmer but as a person. Another way of looking at it, you can swim lap after lap, staring at a black line, and all of a sudden, you look up and see what's around. That's what it feels like to me. Ask more questions, ask what the relevance of swimming is in my life now.

    "I know that it's different to what it was two years ago, five years ago and 10 years ago, and it was most definitely different to what it was 15 years ago. That begged another question - what would my life be like without swimming? It's a very dark question for me because swimming has provided a safety blanket for me, a security net for me. When I'm not certain about developing other sides of my life, I just fall back into swimming."

    Thorpe, nicknamed 'the Thorpedo' and famed for his size 17 feet, was expected to use the conference to withdraw from the Australian Championships in Brisbane next month, but rumours had been building for a few days that he may also call an end to his 10-year international career.

    "I really hoped that I wanted to swim half as much as other people wanted me to, and I also realise it would be dishonest to myself and dishonest to everyone else if I was to continue on that basis," he said. "It wouldn't be for me, it would be for everyone else. I wouldn't be fulfilling my own dreams, I would be fulfilling the dreams other people have for me."

    The last time Thorpe competed in a major international event was in 2004 when he claimed two gold, one silver and one bronze medal in the Athens Olympic Games - the haul complementing the three gold and two silver he picked up at the Sydney Games.

    When he was 14 years old, he became the youngest male to ever represent Australia and a year later became the youngest individual world champion following his victory in the 400metres freestyle at the 1998 World Championships in Perth.

    "I was catapulted into the international limelight as a kid and my swimming career started a long time before that," he said. "You guys didn't see it but I saw it. It has continued since that and I'm most certain that everyone here has seen it and I've reached all the dizzying heights of the sport, I've had a tremendous amount of success that I never thought would happen. For all of that, I'm extremely appreciative."

    Thorpe also holds the record as the only person to win six gold medals in one World Championships - 2001 at Fukuoka - and has a total of 11 world titles gold medals. He has broken 22 world records, is Australia's most decorated Olympian and currently holds world records in the 200m and 400m freestyle as well as being a member of the world record-holding 4x200m freestyle relay team.

    Thorpe swam in the Commonwealth Games trials in December last year but was unable to compete in the Melbourne Games the following March due to glandular fever, and also then broke his hand in an accident at home soon after recovering from that illness. In 2002, he won six gold medals when the Commonwealth Games came to Manchester.

    "I am more proud that I've ever been of all of those achievements now that I've stepped away from the sport and I'm not prioritising it," he said. "I'm also very proud of the decision I've made today.

    "It's a decision that has been difficult, it would have been easier for me to follow the status quo, but I realise that there are things in my life that are more important to me and I have to pursue them now. They are the things that are going to make me a better person and allow me to continue to contribute to this country and to what I want to do in the future."

    © Guardian News & Media 2008
    Published: 11/21/2006
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    Jan 31, 2009 4:21 PM GMT
    Did you see the article on his boyfriend?
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    Jan 31, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
    http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,24973901-5013560,00.html

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    Although he insists "I'm not gay". They've been living together for 2 years.
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    Jan 31, 2009 5:01 PM GMT
    lilTanker said
    Sean_85 saidI think he's still amazingly attractive. Who are you to judge?
    I still think hes hot and I'd do him!


    Me two... three! icon_razz.gif