Religious Freedom: a Physicists Point of View

  • jeepguySD

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    Sep 11, 2015 11:34 PM GMT
    I'm not sure that belongs in "All Things Gay," but I don't think it quite fits into "Science and Technology" either. The ideas in the article are well articulated.

    ...what is sacred to one person can be meaningless (or repugnant) to another. That’s one of the reasons why a modern secular society generally legislates against actions, not ideas. No idea or belief should be illegal; conversely, no idea should be so sacred that it legally justifies actions that would otherwise be illegal. (emphasis added)
  • Wendigo9

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    Sep 13, 2015 3:39 AM GMT
    Interesting . . . downfalls to religon in society: the current date is focused on the years after Jesus, most cultural practices are handed down by bloodlines, and any/every country with british relate to them may have had other views before hit by the union jack.
  • HottJoe

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    Sep 13, 2015 2:42 PM GMT
    Nice article. It pretty much sums up what seems self-evident to me. When scientists conduct lab experiments, they do so with the understanding that capricious mystical forces, such as God, aren't going to interfere with the outcome, yet when people pray they are praying for said mystical forces to intervene in their lives on their behalf, but they might as well be talking to a brick wall. Religion is just superstition. This isn't even debatable. Religious people are just choosing myth over science, plus they're willing to cause harm to others and the planet based on their false beliefs, which makes their ignorance a danger to society. Moreover, history supports that they've been a menace to society for thousands of years, as they are based on delusions and falsehoods that if left unchecked result in two outcomes: cultural imperialism and genocide. It's happening in the US right now with Christians who are trying to enforce medieval biblical laws. Right now, they're attacking gays and women's rights and of course opposing all other batshit religions. It really needs to be seen as a mental disorder.
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    Sep 13, 2015 3:22 PM GMT
    The author makes some good points but misses a shitload.

    With regard to religious freedom over laws, that one predates hobby lobby. I still remember when animal sacrifice was on the front pages...

    and I'd imagine there was a lot more than that.

    As to questioning being taboo, religion is not beyond questioning itself. In fact and just as example, debate is inherent to both Judaism and Buddhism.

    So from a scientist/author, I'd rather have read something less generalizing, rather something more specific to the task.

    From scholarly debate in Judaism about Torah comes Talmud. Jews don't question? Say what?

    And debate in Buddhism is nearly violent, purposely so.

    And certainly, there's a few minor examples of Jews in science, just not yet Jews in Space

    And certainly as well, Buddhism does not deny science. In fact, the Dalai Lama has helped set up an institute to study consciousness as science, (here's that not merely some pseudo science as might be proposed by a fundie, but serious study...

    So to this physicist writing as a scientist, I'd have put more faith in what he said had he not avoided the obvious which seems a bit biased and that is not good science.
  • HottJoe

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    Sep 13, 2015 3:32 PM GMT
    I think debating religion is like debating Batman. Do you like Nolan, Burton, do you believe Robin should play a role?

    We can discuss it endlessly, but it will always be fiction.
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    Sep 13, 2015 4:43 PM GMT
    @2:19 "I often am telling Buddhists (that) once we've fixed (fixated upon) some goal and try to prove that...

    ... it is actually biased."~~The Dalai Lama