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    Sep 12, 2015 4:05 PM GMT
    So one of my good friends told me to watch this video and ask for my input. However after finishing the video I was deeply disturbed by what this girl (Nicole Arbour) has said in her weekly youtube video.

    Growing up I was deeply discriminated due to being overweight, and I can still see that it hasn't changed for kids going into their middle and high school years. I also feel like the ones who feels the back lash of this whip the hardest would be women, as they have so much pressure from not only men to look good, but from social media. And I know this probably reaches closer to home in the gay community as well. Where all men feel the need to have absolutely perfect bodies to feel accepted by other men.

    I just wanted to know where people stand on this issue and what your thoughts on this video.

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    Sep 12, 2015 4:11 PM GMT
    well you've certainly come a very long way
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    Sep 13, 2015 1:04 AM GMT
    I agree with her completely, she is cool
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    Sep 13, 2015 1:25 AM GMT
    I like this guy's response.
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    Sep 13, 2015 1:35 AM GMT
    bonaparts saidI agree with her completely, she is cool
    That's because you've never been fat. If you had, you'd understand the negative mindset that gets developed from being constantly shamed.

    Of course I'm not innocent. Now that I've lost my fatness and kept it off, I do sometimes say some fairly hurtful things; but those hurtful things are actually the motivators I used to shame myself into losing weight to stop my own shame.

    However, to successfully win the minds of fat people, the first and most important step is teaching them to love themselves regardless of their size. Sometimes a little bit of shame followed by friendly, helpful, and correct advice can help with that; but constant shaming just makes them want a triple cheeseburger with a large fries and diet soda...super sized.
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    Sep 13, 2015 1:42 AM GMT
    i don't care about fat people but that fat guy made some lame and stupid points


    all I am saying fat people should be forbidden from airplanes or public transport or anywhere where they get into MY PERSONAL SPACE
    of course I will think of you as shit if I am jammed in an airplane by your fat or you will receive priviledges or I will have to pay from my own pocket just because of your poor lifestyle choices
    that should not even be put under discussion
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    Sep 13, 2015 1:46 AM GMT
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    bonaparts saidI agree with her completely, she is cool
    That's because you've never been fat. If you had, you'd understand the negative mindset that gets developed from being constantly shamed.

    Of course I'm not innocent. Now that I've lost my fatness and kept it off, I do sometimes say some fairly hurtful things; but those hurtful things are actually the motivators I used to shame myself into losing weight to stop my own shame.

    However, to successfully win the minds of fat people, the first and most important step is teaching them to love themselves regardless of their size. Sometimes a little bit of shame followed by friendly, helpful, and correct advice can help with that; but constant shaming just makes them want a triple cheeseburger with a large fries and diet soda...super sized.


    well great, maybe they will stay at home then and not bother others and not go to the doctor to spend taxpayers money
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    Sep 13, 2015 1:52 AM GMT
    bonaparts said
    paulflexes said
    bonaparts saidI agree with her completely, she is cool
    That's because you've never been fat. If you had, you'd understand the negative mindset that gets developed from being constantly shamed.

    Of course I'm not innocent. Now that I've lost my fatness and kept it off, I do sometimes say some fairly hurtful things; but those hurtful things are actually the motivators I used to shame myself into losing weight to stop my own shame.

    However, to successfully win the minds of fat people, the first and most important step is teaching them to love themselves regardless of their size. Sometimes a little bit of shame followed by friendly, helpful, and correct advice can help with that; but constant shaming just makes them want a triple cheeseburger with a large fries and diet soda...super sized.


    well great, maybe they will stay at home then and not bother others and not go to the doctor to spend taxpayers money
    Why are you worried about it anyway? Lithuania doesn't have free healthcare.
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    Sep 13, 2015 1:59 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    bonaparts said
    paulflexes said
    bonaparts saidI agree with her completely, she is cool
    That's because you've never been fat. If you had, you'd understand the negative mindset that gets developed from being constantly shamed.

    Of course I'm not innocent. Now that I've lost my fatness and kept it off, I do sometimes say some fairly hurtful things; but those hurtful things are actually the motivators I used to shame myself into losing weight to stop my own shame.

    However, to successfully win the minds of fat people, the first and most important step is teaching them to love themselves regardless of their size. Sometimes a little bit of shame followed by friendly, helpful, and correct advice can help with that; but constant shaming just makes them want a triple cheeseburger with a large fries and diet soda...super sized.


    well great, maybe they will stay at home then and not bother others and not go to the doctor to spend taxpayers money
    Why are you worried about it anyway? Lithuania doesn't have free healthcare.


    yeah right, you think healthcare is financed by fairies and not tax payers icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:04 AM GMT
    I was fat. A few times.

    Granted, I had an atypical fat person reaction when I got a job giving me access to very sedentary work and unlimited food - I realized that instead of weighing 250 lbs I'd be 300 within a year and I took immediate action, weighing in within 5 months at a very jacked 171 lbs at 8% body fat.

    Several years later after severe unrelated medical issues I was fat again but this time, diagnosed with Type II diabetes. I took immediate action with similar results. Diabetes gone, health practically perfect.

    Then, an injury and prednisone weight gain. Fat again, but three years later currently in better shape than ever.

    Yes, advising fat people to diet and exercise - stating the obvious - probably isn't the wake up call they need and might be counterproductive, hence the legit arguments against the comic's otherwise valid video, which I assume the OP finds discriminatory because she implies that obesity is not a disability.

    But I disagree with the excuses that most fat people make.

    I've also been the victim of "reverse discrimination" - I've actually been body shamed by fat people who contend, though they should know better, that the only reason I'm thin is that I'm vain and have time to work out. One of whom has an easy job, short commute, and various cosmetic surgeries under her belt.
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:14 AM GMT
    Bitch has no shame! lol
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:19 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidBut I disagree with the excuses that most fat people make.

    Two most common excuses that I've both used and still hear from others:
    1. I'm happy with my body the way it is and others can just fuck off.
    2. Food tastes awesome!
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:27 AM GMT
    I've sincerely validated my fat cousin's (gorge-and-party) lifestyle by telling her AFTER she criticizes my weight that maybe she and her husband have the right idea in that it's better to enjoy life (ergo, food) in that maintaining my condition isn't easy.
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:31 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidI've sincerely validated my fat cousin's (gorge-and-party) lifestyle by telling her AFTER she criticizes my weight that maybe she and her husband have the right idea in that it's better to enjoy life (ergo, food) in that maintaining my condition isn't easy.
    How about finding a balance? I don't have all my abs anymore (maybe 2-4 abs actually show now), but the balance comes from moderation. I still do the Paleo thing cause there's lots of really healthy stuff I enjoy eating. Then when I'm out with friends and they wanna hit up the local pizza place, there's no guilt in pigging out with them on some artery-clogging goodness. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:34 AM GMT
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    What a dumb bish.
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:36 AM GMT
    It's easier to lose weight than it is to change an ugly mind.

    I'd wager she has some personal problems of her own.
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:36 AM GMT
    Balance is maintenance phase. Cutting is deprivation.

    But not entirely.

    Labor Day Sunday I had FIVE slices of the excellent pizza margherita I discovered last year that I've been dreaming of for several months. (It's nearly impossible to find good pizza, even in Italian Long Island, and this was damned good pizza.)

    Labor Day Monday I barbecued myself not one but TWO Peter Luger burgers. You can get them from my local butcher, he gets them from that famous steakhouse. They're marbled to perfection with the highest quality beef and just the right amount of cheese as to render them foolproof on the grill. Here's a closeup of the cooked patty plus picture I took of that meal, but look how I ate it:

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    But notice how I prepared it - on thin whole wheat flaxseed buns served up with steamed flat beans and fresh tomatoes from the farmer's market, with the pickle straight from the barrel from a "brinery" from Orient Point, Long Island's east end.

    And I didn't miss a training session, otherwise ate clean and those two cheat meals went right through me.

    Labor Day Tuesday I'd lost a pound and a half.

    It's good to cheat now and then. I'm not a monk!
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:41 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidBalance is maintenance phase. Cutting is deprivation.

    But not entirely.

    Labor Day Sunday I had FIVE slices of the excellent pizza margherita I discovered last year that I've been dreaming of for several months. (It's nearly impossible to find good pizza, even in Italian Long Island, and this was damned good pizza.)

    Labor Day Monday I barbecued myself not one but TWO Peter Luger burgers. You can get them from my local butcher, he gets them from that famous steakhouse. They're marbled to perfection with the highest quality beef and just the right amount of cheese as to render them foolproof.

    But I didn't miss a training session, otherwise ate clean and those two cheat meals went right through me.

    Labor Day Tuesday I'd lost a pound and a half.

    It's good to cheat now and then. I'm not a monk!
    I actually lost my balance a couple night ago. After our TNR (look it up on YouTube), I was riding out of the skatepark and it was really dark...no lights on my bike. I saw a long thin shadow and decided to "ride the shadow" just for fun. Turned out that "shadow" was a skateboard rail painted black. I fuckin slammed right into it and endo'd over the bars. I, along with everyone else, laughed our asses off! icon_lol.gif

    Oh and I still have the brand new scars/cuts/bruises/scrapes/laughs to prove it.
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:46 AM GMT
    You're the man. I can't take those chances anymore! I'm a fragile flower. Another reason I took initiative to take good care of myself.
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:47 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidYou're the man. I can't take those chances anymore! I'm a fragile flower. Another reason I took initiative to take good care of myself.
    One of the guys who rides with us is 58 years old and still rides pro downhill/enduro on the national circuit...and wins most of the time.

    You have no excuse! icon_cool.gif
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:51 AM GMT
    James_Thunder_Early saidIt's easier to lose weight than it is to change an ugly mind.

    I'd wager she has some personal problems of her own.


    Oh but she does. She lost her boyfriend after the video went viral and he publicly made an announcement that he no longer has anything to do with her. And to top it all off the bitch was working on a movie (she was some side character) but the movie basically promoted body positive ideas, but when the casting director saw the video she emailed the her and told her she was out of the job. icon_lol.gif

    Talk about karma.
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    Sep 13, 2015 2:53 AM GMT
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    eagermuscle saidYou're the man. I can't take those chances anymore! I'm a fragile flower. Another reason I took initiative to take good care of myself.
    One of the guys who rides with us is 58 years old and still rides pro downhill/enduro on the national circuit...and wins most of the time.

    You have no excuse! icon_cool.gif

    Good point!

    But unlike most fat people, I have a neurologist's note. icon_sad.gif

    I seriously don't get the issue the OP has with the video. Even if the comic is NOT well intentioned she's not deriding the appearance of any obese person but questioning the validity of their receipt of special treatment for what is often a treatable condition. If he wants to argue that fat people deserve getting to the front of the line and preferential seating and having their obesity related illnesses underwritten by the rest of us because it's only fair given a lifetime of teasing and unfair treatment like unpopularity and not being hired then that would take this discussion into a far livelier and focused direction.
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    Sep 13, 2015 3:07 AM GMT
    eagermuscle said
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    eagermuscle saidYou're the man. I can't take those chances anymore! I'm a fragile flower. Another reason I took initiative to take good care of myself.
    One of the guys who rides with us is 58 years old and still rides pro downhill/enduro on the national circuit...and wins most of the time.

    You have no excuse! icon_cool.gif

    Good point!

    But unlike most fat people, I have a neurologist's note. icon_sad.gif

    I seriously don't get the issue the OP has with the video. Even if the comic is NOT well intentioned she's not deriding the appearance of any obese person but questioning the validity of their receipt of special treatment for what is often a treatable condition. If he wants to argue that fat people deserve getting to the front of the line and preferential seating and having their obesity related illnesses underwritten by the rest of us because it's only fair given a lifetime of teasing and unfair treatment like unpopularity and not being hired then that would take this discussion into a far livelier and focused direction.
    My neurologist told me I needed surgery (2 herniated disks, L4 and 5), and that I'd never be able to participate in high impact sports again. Yet somehow I still do. Fuck him. My chiropractor has more knowledge of the spinal column than the neurologist. I'm now up to 4 herniated disks and going strong. icon_cool.gif

    The only thing she's doing wrong in the video is omitting any valid advice on how to make fat people accept themselves as they are. Most of us who've been there understand that even if we're happy with our weight, we weren't happy with the way we were treated as a result; and that leads to binge (err, comfort) eating to sooth the subconscious pain.

    The only thing she did was hammer in the subconscious pain even deeper.
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    Sep 13, 2015 3:49 AM GMT
    I was never into high impact sports to begin with so no problem there. But just as every fat person responds differently to diet and exercise, and ADVICE regarding diet and exercise, the response of lumbar and cervical herniations, and the way the muscles spasm in response to herniations, differ with everybody.

    My excuse is my decision that high impact sports is not worth the risk for me, just as a fat person decides that a lifetime of moderate deprivation is not worth the aggravation for them. The difference between us is that my decision has less of an (ouch) impact to society at (ouchier) large.

    As for the comic's only mistake, it's a little late for me and I'm not getting it…isn't her point that fat people SHOULDN'T accept themselves for who they are because doing so may shorten their lives (as well as her polarizing observation that it inconveniences others)?

    Maybe I need to rematch it when I'm lucid.

    Perhaps the big objection is her "comic" assertion that there is no such thing as fat shaming. Obviously there is, and she knows it, she was just trying to make a point in a way she thought funny…no?

    I still don't understand the OP's specific problem unless it's that the video puts additional media pressure on fat people, and if so, it's such a drop in the bucket in that how could this one vid possibly equate to the myriad images of thin attractive actor-model-y people thrust upon us daily? I wish Talon would clarify.

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    Sep 13, 2015 3:51 AM GMT
    A Woman Stood In Public Blindfolded In A Bikini To Promote Self-Love


    http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/downtime/a-woman-stood-in-public-blindfolded-in-a-bikini-to-promote-self-love/vi-AAe9IBk