I don't think I fit into this "gay" culture club no more.

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    Sep 15, 2015 3:07 AM GMT
    I'm coming to the conclusion that the problem IS me. Yes, and I admit the problem is I am starting to feel the whole gay culture (mainly the bars) doesn't fit for me. I don't feel I fit in.

    I've gone throughout the country at different bars, but this weekend I did Fort Lauderdale's Hunters. I was by myself, don't really know anyone.

    I met a handful of people, but only one person seemed genuine. Everybody else seemed flighty. It almost seems like when i introduce myself to someone that i don't know, there's shade right from the start.

    One thing I've noticed, gay guys seem to get so fucking offended over every little thing. And way too many bipolar split personalities. One minute they're all in your face, next minute they on some bullshit. I'm not the type to tell jokes, but when I drink I tend to be a little facetious here and there, but def not obnoxious. I generally mind my business and keep it moving, and I'll admit, sometimes I'm awkward in situations because I'm not like everyone else my age or the stereotype.

    But, if I sit or stand and don't talk to anyone...I'll be waiting all night looking stupid for someone to talk to. But when I put myself out there to approach someone, they half ass interested or their friend wants to cock block.

    And BTW, the south Florida scene I'm not into that too much. Bunch of quasi-racists and the Black dudes so busy trying to be superstars, but really on that porn star shit.

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    Sep 15, 2015 3:13 AM GMT
    FuzzyPecs27 saidI'm coming to the conclusion that the problem IS me. Yes, and I admit the problem is I am starting to feel the whole gay culture (mainly the bars) doesn't fit for me. I don't feel I fit in.
    Who fucking cares?
    I don't hang out in the gay meccas either, even though I live near them.

    Fuck the crowd. Follow my lead, and
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:13 AM GMT
    I don't think I fit into this "gay" culture club no more.

    Good-bye and good luck.
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:19 AM GMT
    And this is why women go to gay bars to have a good time without being harassed and gay guys who are supposedly above the gay scene go to regular bars. Men in general are the problem.
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:21 AM GMT
    I like gay people and enjoy going to a few drag performances. I don't feel the need to submerse myself into it. I don't feel the need to leave it. I can come and go when I want.
    Clubs are out to sell alcohol and that can cause a few issues.
    Jocks or fit guys are always looked at and treated differently. It's the intimidation factor. So be yourself, who cares.

    I love to go to a few nightclubs in WEHO, LA, SF or SD & PHX. I go and then go home!!
    Be happy, Don't worry.
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:22 AM GMT
    You just had to throw race in there didn't you? I got news for you.....the gay scene is shit no matter what race you are. Pretentious queens will still be pretentious queens regardless of your skin color. This is why I avoid gay bars too. I have a lot better luck in regular bars.
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:23 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    FuzzyPecs27 saidI'm coming to the conclusion that the problem IS me. Yes, and I admit the problem is I am starting to feel the whole gay culture (mainly the bars) doesn't fit for me. I don't feel I fit in.
    Who fucking cares?
    I don't hang out in the gay meccas either, even though I live near them.

    Fuck the crowd. Follow my lead, and
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    Lol, I know and you're our resident fort bottomdalian lol. So you're not into that scene either?
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:27 AM GMT
    BP201 saidAnd this is why women go to gay bars to have a good time without being harassed and gay guys who are supposedly above the gay scene go to regular bars. Men in general are the problem.
    No, men are not the problem. The problem is the old school mindset of superior vs inferior (referring to masc vs fem).

    And I must admit, this is exactly why I stopped frequenting gay-dominate environments...aside from the fact that I developed a new hobby that simply doesn't have a large "out" crowd (lots of closeted mountain bikers and BMXers, though).
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:28 AM GMT
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    paulflexes said
    FuzzyPecs27 saidI'm coming to the conclusion that the problem IS me. Yes, and I admit the problem is I am starting to feel the whole gay culture (mainly the bars) doesn't fit for me. I don't feel I fit in.
    Who fucking cares?
    I don't hang out in the gay meccas either, even though I live near them.

    Fuck the crowd. Follow my lead, and
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    Lol, I know and you're our resident fort bottomdalian lol. So you're not into that scene either?
    I can count the times I've been to a gay bar this year and have 3 fingers left. And I'm staying in the Bay Area...the international mecca of gaydom.
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:32 AM GMT
    Oh, but to the rest of this site's defense, I'm the ONLY guy out of my entire BMX crowd who did not go to SF Pride. All the other guys went with their girlfriends, cause apparently it's a huge kickass party for everyone. icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:32 AM GMT
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    BP201 saidAnd this is why women go to gay bars to have a good time without being harassed and gay guys who are supposedly above the gay scene go to regular bars. Men in general are the problem.
    No, men are not the problem. The problem is the old school mindset of superior vs inferior (referring to masc vs fem).

    And I must admit, this is exactly why I stopped frequenting gay-dominate environments...aside from the fact that I developed a new hobby that simply doesn't have a large "out" crowd (lots of closeted mountain bikers and BMXers, though).



    Political correctness aside, let's be real for a moment. You're always bragging about your straight BMX friends and the "bromance" you share with them. Your attracted to them because they act like men, am I right? Sounds like you're talking out of both sides of your mouth when you say talk about masc vs fem. icon_confused.gif
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:38 AM GMT
    FuzzyPecs27 said
    I'm coming to the conclusion that the problem IS me. Yes, and I admit the problem is I am starting to feel the whole gay culture (mainly the bars) doesn't fit for me. I don't feel I fit in.

    Yea, me either. Or the straight culture/bars either. I'm just fucking awkward. Luckily I managed to find enough other misfits to hang out with, but when I'm off my turf it can suck.

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    Sep 15, 2015 3:39 AM GMT
    2Bnaked said
    I love to go to a few nightclubs in WEHO, LA, SF or SD & PHX. I go and then go home!!
    Be happy, Don't worry.


    I honestly have had good experiences in SF and WeHo. Phoenix as well I've had good experiences going out.

    There some cities (usually the cities with the most younger guys or guys my age) with themost attitude. It's like guys, drop the stank attitude.
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:40 AM GMT
    Where exactly do you feel you fit in? Find it and be content.
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:47 AM GMT
    Radd saidYou just had to throw race in there didn't you? I got news for you.....the gay scene is shit no matter what race you are. Pretentious queens will still be pretentious queens regardless of your skin color. This is why I avoid gay bars too. I have a lot better luck in regular bars.


    Yes, I had to throw in the race card. Yall already know, the reason why is because the gay culture is always gonna be a little partial. It's the approach factor. It's the camaraderie and inclusion factor also. An attractive black dude has to work much harder to be included than a similar white or Latin guy. that's why most try so hard and people sense it and don't want to be around it.

    But I agree with what everyone has assessed thus far. It's the club/bar/gay Mecca issue. I look on Facebook, and when these guys in their 30s and 40s dressing and partying like they're 20, I'm just like bitch...sit your ass down. Those same guys are just as immature and childish as fuck. Just like the passive aggressive thread I have not gotten to respond to yet.
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    Sep 15, 2015 3:57 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidWhere exactly do you feel you fit in? Find it and be content.


    Good point. Thank you. I realize My current situation is that, I'm not necessarily having the hottest guys all the time, I don't have many loyal friends, I don't have a boyfriend even though I find myself in quasi relationships all the time.

    But, I just had an all expenses paid trip to key largo, and I just got a place in Nashville...and have one in Denver, and non of it was sponsored by guys dancing around in a nightclub with their shirt off at goddamn 2 am. These guys you would never see out.

    Im not saying at to brag, but Its just an example of why the gay scene sucks. They don't do shit for me. I wish the scene was more conducive. Not necessarily money wise, but connection wise. For meeting real people and having meaningful conversations. I wasted my Sunday night bullshitting in a bar, when I could have spent time alone in a hotel and caught up on some sleep lol.
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    Sep 15, 2015 4:07 AM GMT
    FuzzyPecs27 said
    UndercoverMan saidWhere exactly do you feel you fit in? Find it and be content.


    Good point. Thank you. I realize My current situation is that, I'm not necessarily having the hottest guys all the time, I don't have many loyal friends, I don't have a boyfriend even though I find myself in quasi relationships all the time.

    But, I just had an all expenses paid trip to key largo, and I just got a place in Nashville...and have one in Denver, and non of it was sponsored by guys dancing around in a nightclub with their shirt off at goddamn 2 am. These guys you would never see out.

    Im not saying at to brag, but Its just an example of why the gay scene sucks. They don't do shit for me. I wish the scene was more conducive. Not necessarily money wise, but connection wise. For meeting real people and having meaningful conversations. I wasted my Sunday night bullshitting in a bar, when I could have spent time alone in a hotel and caught up on some sleep lol.


    Perhaps your travels and hook up adventures are getting you down. Maybe you should calm down and or settle down. Rentboy.com has collapsed! Time to retire? I am not judging here.....what ever you do is fine, but you seem depressed.
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    Sep 15, 2015 4:10 AM GMT
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    BP201 saidAnd this is why women go to gay bars to have a good time without being harassed and gay guys who are supposedly above the gay scene go to regular bars. Men in general are the problem.
    No, men are not the problem. The problem is the old school mindset of superior vs inferior (referring to masc vs fem).

    And I must admit, this is exactly why I stopped frequenting gay-dominate environments...aside from the fact that I developed a new hobby that simply doesn't have a large "out" crowd (lots of closeted mountain bikers and BMXers, though).


    Well you obviously know how I feel about masc vs fem so you're right on that. I was just highlighting the bar experience for straight women. Sexual assaults are mostly committed by men under the influence point blank period.
    Now I know this topic isn't about sexual assaults but that's what Im talking about to make a point. The gay scene is just full of self hatred. RJ praises straight men and knocks gay men as if they're not the ones knocking us the most. Yall ain't making the "tragic" gay scene any better by doing that, you're just a part of the tragedy. Masculinity has just become so fragile it's IRONIC like shit, I'm more masculine because I man up and embrace my feminine qualities. Yall just being pussies about it (not directed at u)

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    Sep 15, 2015 4:32 AM GMT
    2Bnaked saidI like gay people and enjoy going to a few drag performances. I don't feel the need to submerse myself into it. I don't feel the need to leave it. I can come and go when I want.
    Clubs are out to sell alcohol and that can cause a few issues.
    Jocks or fit guys are always looked at and treated differently. It's the intimidation factor.
    So be yourself, who cares.

    I love to go to a few nightclubs in WEHO, LA, SF or SD & PHX. I go and then go home!!
    Be happy, Don't worry.

    I thought it was the grunting.
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    Sep 15, 2015 5:04 AM GMT
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    Perhaps your travels and hook up adventures are getting you down. Maybe you should calm down and or settle down. Rentboy.com has collapsed! Time to retire? I am not judging here.....what ever you do is fine, but you seem depressed.


    If I retire, will you be ready to step up to the plate and afford my monthly expenses, since you suggest? If so, I'll gladly accept your advice. I could settle down for a hottie like yourself, but otherwise Im good either way.

    Rentboy.com has very little bearing on anything I do. Rentboy.com was a majority New York/DC, China, Latin American website. In places like Phoenix and other isolated parts of the country,, rentboy would bring clients maybe once or twice a month, if any at all. That's like scruff collapsing. You don't think people know of other sites?

    You ARE judging. You just said I seem depressed. I'm not depressed, I just am tired of a subculture that's artificially, catty, and revolved around sex and drugs. That's not being depressed, that's just stating the reality of the situation. And from my experience and what I've SEEN, most of the guys actively in the gay culture (bars, party's, etc) are into that.
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    Sep 15, 2015 7:37 AM GMT
    ^ You say youre tired of the artificial gay night life yet you are a prostitute one of the most shallow proffesions that exists. Decent men wont get involved in a serious romantic relationship with a peostitute. Same with regular people and then you wonder why they wont invite you to their parties. Stop blaming the color of your skin and open your eyes to the reality you chose to live in.

    If you enjoy the money you get from prostitution then dont complain on the social downside of your proffesion
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    Sep 15, 2015 8:37 AM GMT
    I've never fit into so-called "gay culture" either. Or any culture for that matter. Which is why I do most things alone. I'm a lonely panda... icon_sad.gif
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    Sep 15, 2015 11:20 AM GMT
    My whole life the bar scene straight or gay has been lack luster. However going with or meeting friends out makes all the difference. If you medg someone worthwhile then bonus. If not, good times are still had and you can be insulated from the aspects of the situation that annoys you.