Transgender woman live-tweets her expulsion from Orlando airport

  • metta

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    Sep 22, 2015 6:55 PM GMT
    Transgender woman live-tweets her expulsion from Orlando airport


    http://www.vox.com/2015/9/21/9367327/transgender-shadi-petosky-twitter-orlando-airport
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    Sep 22, 2015 7:24 PM GMT
    That was a horrifying ordeal!

    Shadi had to put up with some Shady characters at the TSA.

    Apparently, American Airlines is compounding the issue with misinformation about how they handled it.
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    Sep 22, 2015 9:52 PM GMT
    Shadi Petosky (via Twitter)All the people tweeting lawsuit! and stuff are grossly overestimating reparations in world that doesn't want us to exist


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    Sep 22, 2015 9:55 PM GMT
    TSA "flagged" Ms. Petosky for what they described to her as an "anatomical anomaly."

    Shadi Petosky (via Twitter)I described what the [TSA] flagging screen looked like to an artist. This is the anomaly.


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    Sep 23, 2015 7:38 PM GMT
    Took a minute for the anti-trans Twitterhate to arrive...

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    ...but it was only a minute.

    Shadi Petosky (via Twitter)Getting called #freak but they don't understand @katebornstein taught me to LOVE this word.


    Shadi Petosky (via Twitter)Conservatives might not realize they're attacking a small business owner and employer from Montana.


    Reply from Michael Reid (on Twitter)@shadipetosky u need to be a big business owner for them to care. Try hiking up ur prices 5,000%


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    As for the whackos that claimed she needs Jeebus, and an operation, so they can sleep peacefully at night...

    Shadi Petosky (via Twitter)Maybe humans claiming they are going to transition into winged angels and live forever shouldn't be judging anyone's identity.


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    Shadi responded to the critiques (based on reports) that she explicitly refused TSA's offer to re-scan her using the male procedure (I suppose it's the blue button?)

    Shadi Petosky (via Twitter)Anyone reporting that I "refused to use the male setting"' is wrong. I ASKED to be rescanned using whatever settings(,) was told no.

    They don't rescan, they pat down. The officer who talked "male scan "!was sent away quickly. He didn't know procedures.


    And, shortly after landing back home, she dealt with the people on Twitter complaining that she is Tweeting too much (imagine that!) about her ordeal.

    Shadi PetoskyFor those thinking I'm obsessed / spending too much time tweeting. I flew in, recorded 3 VO (Voice Over) actors, and got a filing replaced today. You?


    She was eventually clued in to the odd PR tag-team of TSA and American Airlines trying to make it seem (to the public) like they've got this all under control.

    Shadi Petosky (via Twitter)Oh sh*t. The spokesperson for American Airlines was formerly the spokesperson for the TSA. Now I get it.


    She just arrived back at her original planned destination (Minneapolis) about 5 hours ago. She took Delta, on a connecting flight from Newark.

    Shadi Petosky (via Twitter)Lots of people tweeting me about wanting to be a victim. No. This story took off because I won't be a victim.


    https://twitter.com/shadipetosky
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    Sep 23, 2015 8:07 PM GMT
    What was the problemo?

    Doesn't Caitlyn fly? Why doesn't she have issues?

    I can't believe Shadi (poor name choice) is the only trans to fly. Why she the only one with a problem?

    What's the part of the story being left out? What am I missing? There's usually three sides to a story yours, theirs, and the undeniable truth. Guess which one nearly never gets told.
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    Sep 23, 2015 8:21 PM GMT
    Somebody just asked:What was the problemo?

    Doesn't Caitlyn fly? Why doesn't she have issues?

    I can't believe Shadi (poor name choice) is the only trans to fly. Why she the only one with a problem?

    What's the part of the story being left out? There's usually three sides to a story yours, theirs, and the undeniable truth. Guess which one nearly never gets told.


    Not only The One Transgender Person Many People Have Heard About, but thousands of transgender persons fly every day.

    Shadi herself is a business person who flies all the time (including on the alternative and connecting flights she had to take because THIS particular TSA crew couldn't get their sh*t together.) So she doesn't get this "problemo" every time, an indication that she shouldn't have had a "problemo" in the first place in Orlando.

    As you see in the responses she's retweeted, she's not the only one to go through this. The "story that never gets told" was already being told, on Twitter at #TravelingWhileTrans, by many travelers with similar stories like Shadi that didn't have the presence of mind (or courage) to risk putting their name and body and issues out there for our selective scrutiny.

    Thanks in large part to Shadi (and celebrities like Tig Notaro that caught onto the silliness as it was unfolding), "that part of the story" is FINALLY being "told." And that part of the story is...

    Daily Dot#TravelingWhileTrans shows that airport workers need sensitivity training: http://trib.al/0qsiPIX
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    Sep 23, 2015 8:46 PM GMT
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    From The Rest of The Story article over at The Daily Dot:

    Daily DotTraveling is already stressful—and the TSA scanners make a lot of people uncomfortable, not just the transgender community. That's why the National Center for Transgender Equality (NCTE) joined a lawsuit against the TSA alongside a consumer rights group, Competitive Enterprise Institute, and a civil liberties law organization, Rutherford Institute.

    All of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit—filed in July—argue that the scanning process is degrading and unnecessary. But for transgender people, it's beyond just humiliating—the TSA's scanning equipment is only set up to scan bodies as male or female, complete with blue and pink buttons for personnel to press when a traveler enters.

    "For years TSA relied on body scanners and prison-style pat-downs as its primary tools despite mounting evidence that they don’t work," said NCTE Policy Director Harper Jean Tobin in an email to the Daily Dot. "It’s a waste of billions and unfair to all travelers, but anyone who looks different or whose body is different is harmed the most."


    Speaking of which, did somebody in this thread mention a certain Reality TV show? Welllllll...

    The Daily DotWhile the scanning machines aren't the only problem for trans travelers, writer and actress Jen Richards (a series regular on I Am Cait) told the Daily Dot that the scanners flag her for "anomalies" about half the time she travels by air. Usually, she said, the flag is followed by a quick pat-down and she's sent along to her flight. But in 2013 at Chicago's Midway airport, she was sent through the scanner over and over again because the "anomaly" kept registering. After being made to wait with her luggage for awhile, she was then taken to a separate room...


    and... (hopefully Cait is paying attention!)

    Jen Richards (to the Daily Dot)Two female officers took me to another part of the airport into a private room. I explained to them what I thought the anomaly was, and they were surprised and said they would then get male screeners. I told them no, I was legally female and wanted female screeners, but just wanted them to know what they'd find. They were polite to me, and I was cooperative, but it was humiliating. I generally don't [identify as trans right away]. It's awkward, you're in public, security is already invasive, you just want to get to your flight. I did explain to the screener when I was detained, but she said a supervisor still had to deal with it.


    Not every transgender person (thankfully!) gets this "problemo" every time they deal with TSA. But on those occasions that they DO... oh, what a "problemo" it can be! As one RJ commenter noted above, TSA workers need a lot more than just "counseling"...

    The Daily DotAs the Daily Dot learned from talking to sources for this article, the limited gender-reading capabilities of the scanners aren't the only problem. Trans travelers also face TSA workers who lack cultural understanding of how to recognize and talk about trans travelers.

    Leo Caldwell, who writes a syndicated column about trans experience for Gannett newspapers, told the Daily Dot that he tends to over-prepare for traveling due to anxiety around facing potential discrimination: "I always shave my face in hopes this helps. I don't know why. But I do."

    Caldwell's ID retains his birth name and a female gender marker. But his presentation is very masculine, and some airport workers just don't seem to have the skills to handle that well.


    Leo Caldwell (to the Daily Dot)The one experience that sticks out in my mind is when I went through and the TSA agent looked at my ID and my boarding pass and my ID again and said, "Natasha!?" I said, "Yep, that's me." My ID photo is current. And he said, "Really? You must have had a hard childhood." And then he laughed. "Who named you?" he asked. I said, "My dad and yeah, it was hard." But I was obviously speaking to a different experience than what he was. I don't [come out as trans] with the TSA. I just keep confirming that it's me.

    Gender is so pervasive in our (culture) that it inhibits me from experiencing everyday things the way a cisgender person would. And I take the TSA thing just the same way. I wouldn't know what it was like to casually go through security. And sure, I look like a man but I guess what does that even mean? You know... that's why I keep my ID as female: to make people question what is a 'female' name, and what is a 'female' body.


    The Daily DotCaldwell also noted that he's been flagged by scanners in the past; interestingly, the flags ceased after he had top surgery. But before surgery, Caldwell would wear a chest binder: a compression top that resembles a tight tank top. If it seems odd that a common article of clothing would set off the machine's "anomaly" function, it's vital to remember that the scanners only recognize two types of bodies: male and female.

    Richards said that she's heard horror stories from friends who wear binders, and criticized the levels of humiliation endured by travelers when TSA tactics have been shown to be inefficient anyway.

    "I know a few guys who have had to remove their binders right there in screening, in public. It's mortifying," said Richards. "The system is ineffective. And what are they really preventing anyways? Have female-appearing terrorists been trying to sneak explosives onto planes by sticking them in their crotch?"


    For all you I Am Cait fans out there (as there appears to be many!), her colleague Jenny Boylan is quoted in the piece as well!
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    Sep 23, 2015 9:09 PM GMT
    Thinking there's STILL more to "the story?" You're right!

    THANKS OBAMA! lol

    Gender Queeries (on Twitter)So @TSA saying they have no #trans policy? #travelingwhiletrans "Funny" - they had one in 2012. @shadipetosky @ACLU


    https://web.archive.org/web/20150720015053/http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/transgender-travelers

    So, it begs the question... why was it scrubbed? Those Orlando TSA workers sure could have used the training!
  • Wendigo9

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    Sep 25, 2015 1:51 AM GMT
    I applaud the anti-trans kind of people, you're born male or female, that's the way your maker intended, don't be ungrateful.
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    Sep 25, 2015 2:15 AM GMT
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    Sep 25, 2015 3:29 AM GMT
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    Sep 25, 2015 5:41 AM GMT
    I smell a rat, or is that 'I smell something fishy'. It all sounds 'Shadi' to me!
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    Sep 25, 2015 1:14 PM GMT
    Shadi's story was a topic on Dr. Drew's last night. Let's just say it didn't go terribly well (or, as well as you might suspect it would)! Did snarky RJers pack the audience? icon_razz.gif

    Beth Donovan (via Twitter)@DrDrewHLN @shadipetosky Shit this is insane. Talking about you and you're not involved. It's like a Jerry Springer episode


    Shadi Petosky (via Twitter)Astounding that the @DrDrewHLN audience thinks that the TSA dedicating time to individually search (every) trans passenger is good security.

    The @TSA has a completely manual system on body scanners. Person looks, pushes a button, if they guess wrong (on perceived gender) -- person is searched.

    The @DrDrewHLN panel quickly reframed this as wanting to be treated like a woman or some bull. I don't care which button they press. ASK.


    Things turned out a little better with Dr. Drew's online "AfterShow."

    Shadi Petsoky (via Twitter)The audience comments on the show were hard. The assumption of "deception" -- but this is SO GOOD!


    Dr. Drew-HLN (via Twitter)#AfterShow: @TheLadyJessy helps us understand why @shadipetosky's experience with #TSA was so hurtful: http://on.fb.me/1OxqG5V #TSAvsTrans


    Shadi Petosky (via Twitter)Huge thank you to @SamSchacher @ArevaMartin for hearing my words without bias tonight! I've never done that before. Hard to sound (byte).



    As for the "Shadi" name? She didn't pick that herself, her mother did.

    Shadi PetoskyIt's an acronym (my Mom is nerdy) Shirley Helen And DebI. My Grandma/Ggrandma/Moms names.


    Shadi grew up an Air Force brat, where Momma Petosky worked intelligence.

    Debi Petosky@TSA @JennyBoylan You aren't taking this seriously. A penis in panties is not an explosive weapon. this is my daughter you are messing up!
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    Sep 26, 2015 12:11 AM GMT
    Seems there needs to be a few more categories for fliers: male (M), female (F), female to male pre-op (FTM PRE-OP), female to male post op (FTM PST-OP), male to female pre-op (MTF PRE-OP), and male to female post op (MTF PST-OP) and for the real deal: hemaphrodite (HD).

    That should about cover all the bases.

    Oops! And then there's that guy with the two dicks!