Is Gay Dating Racism Creating a Black HIV Crisis?

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    Sep 22, 2015 8:17 PM GMT
    http://www.advocate.com/hiv-aids/2015/9/21/gay-dating-racism-creating-black-hiv-crisis


    I'm noting this first for the BLAME WHORES "Studies show black gay and bi men are not likelier to engage in risky sex than white gay and bi men. They are actually likelier to wear condoms than other groups and less likely to use drugs before or during sex. Probability, it seems, has stacked the deck against them when it comes to HIV infection."

    "Racism is very much a reality in the gay dating world, as evidenced by the numerous articles, studies, and think pieces illustrating this sad fact. Phrases like “no blacks” are pervasive on apps like Grindr and Scruff. At other times, people of color say they're treated like an exotic novelty.

    If that's not depressing enough, these men also face a health crisis. One out of four black gay and bisexual men will be HIV-positive by the time they turn 25 years old. About six in 10 will be positive by 40."

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    Sep 23, 2015 6:13 PM GMT
    timmm55 saidIs Gay Dating Racism Creating a Black HIV Crisis? http://www.advocate.com/hiv-aids/2015/9/21/gay-dating-racism-creating-black-hiv-crisis


    Not for ME...
  • Nhlakz

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    Sep 23, 2015 6:39 PM GMT
    Its more about making personal choices....despite sexual prefrence..hiv/aids is not going anywere ppl just need to buckle up and wear a condom..and not engage in risky sexual conducts
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    Sep 23, 2015 7:29 PM GMT
    Nhlakz saidIts more about making personal choices....despite sexual prefrence..hiv/aids is not going anywere ppl just need to buckle up and wear a condom..and not engage in risky sexual conducts


    So that's the solution? Stick with 90s jargon? Ignore that young black men are the least likely to be on PrEP or TasP?

    And the most likely to die from AIDS, still? In 2015?
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    Sep 23, 2015 10:08 PM GMT
    The young guys I know say it's the other way around. High risks groups play with high risk groups. A few years ago young guys would only play with young guys to avoid HIV but their BB preference has certainly changed the demographics of infection.
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    Sep 24, 2015 12:16 AM GMT
    Alpha13 saidThe young guys I know say it's the other way around. High risks groups play with high risk groups. A few years ago young guys would only play with young guys to avoid HIV but their BB preference has certainly changed the demographics of infection.


    or the dumb morons play with the other dumb morons and the smart ones remain HIV free
  • Nhlakz

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    Sep 24, 2015 7:37 AM GMT
    timmm55 said
    Nhlakz saidIts more about making personal choices....despite sexual prefrence..hiv/aids is not going anywere ppl just need to buckle up and wear a condom..and not engage in risky sexual conducts


    So that's the solution? Stick with 90s jargon? Ignore that young black men are the least likely to be on PrEP or TasP?

    And the most likely to die from AIDS, still? In 2015?

    i live in a country with the highest number of hiv positive people in the world..and the new infections of black gay men are growing at an alarming rate.....there r ppl who've been practicing safe sex(using a condom)since their youth and are still fine..if we ignore the importance of condoms..then we are doomed to live with the virus..
    In south africa,alcohol and drug use are to blame for the ever growing hiv rate..i think we both know that a lot of gay men dont know their hiv status.
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    Sep 24, 2015 4:47 PM GMT
    Unprotected sex causes the spread of HIV. You can't even limit it to casual sex because many guys get HIV from someone they trust and are in a relationship with. Some people are luckier than others. Some people are riskier than others. Some people trust more than others. Whether someone cheated on you, lied about their status, or just plain old didn't know... you get HIV from someone. You do have control over whether you have safer sex or not. But anyone who has sex gambles to some extent because protected sex does protect you from all STD's.

    So I say my prayers, have protected sex when I hook up and I try to use my gut. But I've also been lucky.
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    Sep 24, 2015 5:53 PM GMT
    Nhlakz said
    timmm55 said
    Nhlakz saidIts more about making personal choices....despite sexual prefrence..hiv/aids is not going anywere ppl just need to buckle up and wear a condom..and not engage in risky sexual conducts


    So that's the solution? Stick with 90s jargon? Ignore that young black men are the least likely to be on PrEP or TasP?

    And the most likely to die from AIDS, still? In 2015?

    i live in a country with the highest number of hiv positive people in the world..and the new infections of black gay men are growing at an alarming rate.....there r ppl who've been practicing safe sex(using a condom)since their youth and are still fine..if we ignore the importance of condoms..then we are doomed to live with the virus..
    In south africa,alcohol and drug use are to blame for the ever growing hiv rate..i think we both know that a lot of gay men dont know their hiv status.



    According to the latest 2014 UNAIDS report, which was based on the 2012 South African National HIV
    Prevalence, Incidence & Behavior Survey, there were between 6.3 and 6.4 million HIV infected people in
    South Africa. Although the number of new infections appears to have declined in the past 5 years, 370,000
    new infections were still estimated to occur in 2013

    http://www.globalhealthaction.net/index.php/gha/article/viewFile/27450/pdf_117


    No one is saying "ignore the importance of condoms" but any ONE strategy is inadequate. "Safe sex" isn't just condoms.



    ACON

    There are now at least five strategies that reasonably constitute ‘safe sex’, provided that certain parameters are met.
    They are:
    1.The use of Condoms during casual encounters between men of unknown or discordant serostatus.
    2.HIV negative men taking effective pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP).
    3.Men living with HIV who only have sex without condoms when they have a sustained undetectable viral load (UVL) and in the absence of sexually transmissible infections (STIs).
    4.Effective use of serosorting between HIV positive men.
    5.Effective negotiated safety agreements.

    http://www.acon.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/What-is-Safe-Sex-Position-2014.pdf



  • Nhlakz

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    Sep 24, 2015 7:07 PM GMT
    timmm55 said
    Nhlakz said
    timmm55 said
    Nhlakz saidIts more about making personal choices....despite sexual prefrence..hiv/aids is not going anywere ppl just need to buckle up and wear a condom..and not engage in risky sexual conducts


    So that's the solution? Stick with 90s jargon? Ignore that young black men are the least likely to be on PrEP or TasP?

    And the most likely to die from AIDS, still? In 2015?

    i live in a country with the highest number of hiv positive people in the world..and the new infections of black gay men are growing at an alarming rate.....there r ppl who've been practicing safe sex(using a condom)since their youth and are still fine..if we ignore the importance of condoms..then we are doomed to live with the virus..
    In south africa,alcohol and drug use are to blame for the ever growing hiv rate..i think we both know that a lot of gay men dont know their hiv status.



    According to the latest 2014 UNAIDS report, which was based on the 2012 South African National HIV
    Prevalence, Incidence & Behavior Survey, there were between 6.3 and 6.4 million HIV infected people in
    South Africa. Although the number of new infections appears to have declined in the past 5 years, 370,000
    new infections were still estimated to occur in 2013

    http://www.globalhealthaction.net/index.php/gha/article/viewFile/27450/pdf_117


    No one is saying "ignore the importance of condoms" but any ONE strategy is inadequate. "Safe sex" isn't just condoms.



    ACON

    There are now at least five strategies that reasonably constitute ‘safe sex’, provided that certain parameters are met.
    They are:
    1.The use of Condoms during casual encounters between men of unknown or discordant serostatus.
    2.HIV negative men taking effective pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP).
    3.Men living with HIV who only have sex without condoms when they have a sustained undetectable viral load (UVL) and in the absence of sexually transmissible infections (STIs).
    4.Effective use of serosorting between HIV positive men.
    5.Effective negotiated safety agreements.

    http://www.acon.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/What-is-Safe-Sex-Position-2014.pdf




    thats the stats among hetro since they there large population who r living with the virus...with more men engaging in m2m sex..the stats r very sad and my hetro friends once made a comment late last year which i was offended by..their words were"most gay men dont care about their lives and r sickening one another while at it.".....in some part of africa there less education about healthy /safe sex education for men who engage in m2m sex hence the growing number of new infections....so thats y i believe that people shuold just protect themselves at all time and get tested regularly..its only fair and for our own good at the end of the day.
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    Sep 26, 2015 9:56 PM GMT
    Nhlakz said
    timmm55 said
    Nhlakz said
    timmm55 said
    Nhlakz saidIts more about making personal choices....despite sexual prefrence..hiv/aids is not going anywere ppl just need to buckle up and wear a condom..and not engage in risky sexual conducts


    So that's the solution? Stick with 90s jargon? Ignore that young black men are the least likely to be on PrEP or TasP?

    And the most likely to die from AIDS, still? In 2015?

    i live in a country with the highest number of hiv positive people in the world..and the new infections of black gay men are growing at an alarming rate.....there r ppl who've been practicing safe sex(using a condom)since their youth and are still fine..if we ignore the importance of condoms..then we are doomed to live with the virus..
    In south africa,alcohol and drug use are to blame for the ever growing hiv rate..i think we both know that a lot of gay men dont know their hiv status.



    According to the latest 2014 UNAIDS report, which was based on the 2012 South African National HIV
    Prevalence, Incidence & Behavior Survey, there were between 6.3 and 6.4 million HIV infected people in
    South Africa. Although the number of new infections appears to have declined in the past 5 years, 370,000
    new infections were still estimated to occur in 2013

    http://www.globalhealthaction.net/index.php/gha/article/viewFile/27450/pdf_117


    No one is saying "ignore the importance of condoms" but any ONE strategy is inadequate. "Safe sex" isn't just condoms.



    ACON

    There are now at least five strategies that reasonably constitute ‘safe sex’, provided that certain parameters are met.
    They are:
    1.The use of Condoms during casual encounters between men of unknown or discordant serostatus.
    2.HIV negative men taking effective pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP).
    3.Men living with HIV who only have sex without condoms when they have a sustained undetectable viral load (UVL) and in the absence of sexually transmissible infections (STIs).
    4.Effective use of serosorting between HIV positive men.
    5.Effective negotiated safety agreements.

    http://www.acon.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/What-is-Safe-Sex-Position-2014.pdf




    thats the stats among hetro since they there large population who r living with the virus...with more men engaging in m2m sex..the stats r very sad and my hetro friends once made a comment late last year which i was offended by..their words were"most gay men dont care about their lives and r sickening one another while at it.".....in some part of africa there less education about healthy /safe sex education for men who engage in m2m sex hence the growing number of new infections....so thats y i believe that people shuold just protect themselves at all time and get tested regularly..its only fair and for our own good at the end of the day.


    "most gay men dont care about their lives and r sickening one another while at it."

    That's very offensive and not true.

    2010 Indiana University National Sex Study reported that African Americans were more likely than other groups to use condoms. In fact, rates of condom use among Black teenagers were the highest of any group.

    http://www.thebody.com/content/75712/the-unending-paradox-why-are-hiv-rates-higher-in-b.html

    Yet, Young, black MSM are severely affected and now account for more new infections in the United States (4,800 in 2010) than any other subgroup by race/ethnicity, age, and sex.
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/CDC-MSM-508.pdf

    We've seen plenty of Mistrust (see thebody.com above) on RJ.

    "Mistrust of medical institutions by African Americans is well established. Many subscribe to HIV conspiracy theories and believe that HIV treatment is more toxic than the virus. .... This distrust underlines the need for every person to have access to safe and nonjudgmental HIV services."

    It's fairly simple to me: it's the pool. Even though condom use is slightly higher, PrEP and TasP use is much lower.

    Condom use among the general population (US) is around 20%. The HIV pool is very small.

    Condom use among MSM is 43% (44% for black MSM). Over twice the national average.
    The HIV pool of Hetero sex is very small (US).
    The HIV pool of MSM is large.
    The HIV pool of black MSM is HUGE.


    DC has made great strides: How Washington DC Cut Its Epidemic-Level HIV Rate by 40 Percent

    https://news.vice.com/article/how-washington-dc-cut-its-epidemic-level-hiv-rate-by-40-percent

    But it is only one city. Other than Boston, NYC and some west coast cities, Black MSM HIV rates are still going up, especially in the south.