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    Feb 01, 2009 2:47 AM GMT
    Is it a scam when they say there going to give you a deal and what is the most a PT should get paid an hour ?
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    Feb 01, 2009 5:03 AM GMT
    Mrod79 saidIs it a scam when they say there going to give you a deal and what is the most a PT should get paid an hour ?

    If by "deal," you mean that you are going to get a cheaper rate than someone else then you probably could call it a "scam." But it is a common sales technique. Everybody likes to think they are getting a deal. But, I am with you in being suspicious and ...offended.... if they offer me a "deal" and dont think I know what's going on. I prefer to see their rate schedule....usually the rate goes down as you commit to more sessions.

    In the northern Virginia area, near DC, I would expect $75/hour for a PT at a gym round here. That's what I was charged at the Golds Gym. I did get their standard introductory offer of $65/hour for my first set of sessions. Then the price was $75/hour.
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    Feb 01, 2009 3:37 PM GMT
    I never change my rate from one person to another....trust me, people talk and eventually it will get back that so and so is paying you this and I'm paying you that.

    Rates among CPT's differ....I know some guy's charging well over $100.00 an hour.....I don't charge by the hour, but by session. I typically schedule my Clients to where I have time in-between, so if I'm working with someone and we go over the hour mark, I'm more concerned @ getting a good workout in for my Client vs. stopping right on the dot. However, if my Client says...."I only have an hour"....then, I make it work.

    Before you hire a trainer, get references, find out what their certifications are (ACE & NASM are the best in my opinion)....also try to observe them from afar working with someone else.....are they paying attention to their client or are they standing over them texting on their cell phone? Make sure you know what your goals are and find out from the trainer what what they "specialize" in. I won't work with people looking to bulk up or with anyone trying to recover from injury.

    There are great trainers out there....but like everything else in life, you need to pick and choose carefully.

    Good luck!
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    Feb 01, 2009 3:45 PM GMT
    A trainer should get paid based on their experience and expertise. I don't think there should be a 'standard price'.

    I pay my trainer $900 a month. I see him 5 days a week which works out to be $45 a session, a great deal in my opinion as he comes to me, I don't have to go to a local gym.
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    Feb 01, 2009 10:28 PM GMT
    I pay my trainer $50/hr, and I work out with him in a studio that's solely for trainers and their clients. When I had a trainer at my gym, I was paying $75/hr, which was the "master trainer" rate.
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    Feb 02, 2009 12:09 AM GMT
    Wow. Those are some interesting rates. Obviously I'm working in the wrong industry. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 02, 2009 12:48 AM GMT
    Perfect timing!

    http://www.realjock.com/article/1340
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    Feb 02, 2009 1:03 AM GMT
    Off topic: That guy in the article is nice to look at. icon_biggrin.gif

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    Feb 02, 2009 1:21 AM GMT
    xrichx saidWow. Those are some interesting rates. Obviously I'm working in the wrong industry. icon_lol.gif


    just because that is what they're paying for the trainer, don't assume that's what the trainer is actually making. those $75 an hour guys probably see $35 to 40 of that. if not less. still it's not bad money.
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    Feb 02, 2009 1:24 AM GMT
    Interesting. So is it typical for gyms to take a ~40% cut? Or does it vary by region and type of gym?
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    Feb 02, 2009 2:03 AM GMT
    Don't be fooled by the numbers man! $50, 60, 70 bucks a session/hour plus sounds like a lot but out of that you have to pay your gym fees, etc. and it's only a lot of money if you work a lot of hours and getting clients is tough, especially in this economy and in a town like LA where there is TONS of competition!!!! My business is down over 50% since last June and hasn't come back. If I didn't have other sources of income I'd be hurting really bad right now.


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    Feb 02, 2009 3:50 AM GMT
    That's scary. I was thinking about doing personal training as a side job. But I don't think I could wing it with my current full time. Plus, trying to wrangle clients seems challenging.
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    Feb 02, 2009 3:52 AM GMT
    NYCguy74 said
    xrichx saidWow. Those are some interesting rates. Obviously I'm working in the wrong industry. icon_lol.gif


    just because that is what they're paying for the trainer, don't assume that's what the trainer is actually making. those $75 an hour guys probably see $35 to 40 of that. if not less. still it's not bad money.


    Most gyms pay their personal trainers 50% or less of the charge. I believe Lifetime Fitness pays their trainers strictly $12.00 an hour and that's it.

    I've been lucky so far even with the bad economy, I'm picking up Clients....I teach a Fitness Boot Camp and alot of the people who join, decide they do better outside of a group activity but like my style and hire me for one on one....thankfully, most of my clients have very nice home gyms or are willing to pay for me to come into their "boutique" gyms to train them. I also encourage as much outdoor training as possible. You really don't need a gym to be fit and its part of what I try to teach.
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    Feb 02, 2009 5:56 PM GMT
    Depends on what you think this Deal "scam" is....

    But Trainers get usually 40 to 70 dollars an hour
    The variation depeding on the city/ region you're in
    The gym you go to and the hottness of the guy icon_cool.gif
    You would assume that it would be his experience or expertise in training but I've seen it over and over again
    ... trainers who know next to nothing that are booked solid just because they are nice to look at icon_cool.gif
    Gym Prostitutes I call them icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 02, 2009 6:00 PM GMT
    i just got a gym membership at a small local gym for xmas while im at home for the winter so i don't go crazy, and it came with two free sessions. the trainer i got was the first i've ever had and he was AMAZING. he didn't show me any exercises i didn't already know... though he gave me courage to use equipment i normally wouldn't on my own... but yeah not only was he exceptionally hot (west point lacrosse player and wrestler), and thus extremely motivating lol, but he was really good at pushing me harder than i'd normally push myself in a workout, so that lifting unto 'failure' literally meant having trouble with the steering wheel on the drive home cause my arms felt like wet noodles. i was impressed- however, at $50 per hour session afterwards, i just can't afford that kind of luxury.

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    Feb 02, 2009 6:25 PM GMT
    When my trainer opened his own studio, his rates did come down a bit because there wasnt the cut taken by the gym. That allowed me to go from 2 to 3 times a week with him.

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    Feb 02, 2009 10:51 PM GMT
    I'm only bothered by the fact the trainer wants me to sign up for 6 months, but i do think i got a good deal.
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    Feb 20, 2009 5:00 PM GMT
    There is article in this weeks Dallas Voice about personal training!

    Thought I'd share it since I'm featured!icon_biggrin.gif

    http://www.dallasvoice.com/artman/publish/article_10667.php
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    Feb 20, 2009 5:20 PM GMT
    A good trainer can help you achieve goals. Trainers make from around $8.00 hour + spiffs (for pushing snake oil) at 24 Hour Fitness, to $12.00 hour at LA Fitness, to around $25.00 at Lifetime on up to around $90, or more, in some private places.

    I have two personal trainers that I work with from time to time: Sagi Kalev here in Dallas, and Jesse Leyva, of Flower Mound. Anyone who is anyone in fitness knows Sagi, because he's been on the cover of Muscle and Fitness more times than any man alive, and is regularly on the cover of a 1/2 of a dozen of other magazines. Because of my outstanding ability, Sagi offered to train me for free, but, we didn't ask him to do that. Sagi and I are friends, share similar outlooks, and I learned a lot about high-level bodybuilding from him that fast-tracked my stage presence and confidence. I've never placed lower than fourth using Sagi. Sagi owns Energy Fitness in Dallas, and, if you're in the area, feel free to stop by and say hi to Sig, Josh, and Josh, and tell them Chuck sent you. They'll know immediately who you're talking about. Jesse is a very good friend as well, and like Sagi, has a bunch of trophies, and has trained champions. Jesse helps me with choreography, and stage presence, the parts that are hardest for me. Jesse is a nice guy, and Logan (flex89) and I are helping Jesse to get ready for the Ronnie Coleman Classic here in about 10 weeks or so. Jesse is always "on" (positive mood) and is a real treat to be around. Over the years, we've become good friends. For my diet, routines, and training method, I train myself. After 33 years, I have a pretty good idea what I'm doing, although, from time to time, I'll stumble across a better idea than someone might have. Neither Jesse, nor Sagi, prescribe HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training), but, I've found it works absolute wonders for me. Sagi always hugs me at public events and "how you Chuck?" etc. Sig is from Saudi (I mean Israel) and is a lot of fun. He's one of those guys that whatever he touches he's successful in.

    Logan and I have another friend, Justin, who is so intimidated by the gym, that he WILL NOT train without a trainer. We kinda' laugh to giggle that even after being in the gym a couple of years, he won't lift without his "trainer." Justin is likely a closet case, and he has all the typical drama and baggage that those folks have. It's sad, and we'd like to see him do better, but, he's not budging.

    Trainers can bring another viewpoint to your training, but, many are CLUELESS, have no practical experience, no proven success, and paid $900 for a cert from, say, NASM, which is all about core training but doesn't teach them the skills that, say Jesse or Sagi, have.

    Some folks find the gym a scary place, and don't have a friend train with, or are to lazy to conduct their own research. Those folks clearly can benefit from a trainer, if it gets them more confidence, and know how.

    Like everything else, the money is all relative, and the "is it worth it" question is all relative. In my case, of competing at the national level, I'm convinced Sagi made a LOT of difference because he knew a lot of the tricks of the trade. For a casual lifter, or someone intimidated by athleticism, I'm not so sure the trainer makes so much difference.

    If you hire a trainer, you'd be wise to hire one near middle-aged, who has both practical experience, and book knowledge, as well as more human relations skills. I wouldn't hire a cute 18 with a cert for any serious training. They are to young to realize how little they truly know.

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    Feb 20, 2009 5:25 PM GMT
    OMFG Justin's something else... I wonder if he's still trying to do the Europa. He's gonna get spanked pretty bad because he's smaller now than when he started.

    Sagi's Israeli, Chuck icon_razz.gif
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    Feb 20, 2009 5:28 PM GMT
    Yep. Flex89 is right. "Chhuuuuuuuuuuuccckk how are you?" Says the Sagi. He's from Israel. Yes, he is.