Studies suggest that estimates of the gay populations are exaggerated.

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    Sep 28, 2015 7:57 AM GMT
    What do you guys think of this article? I know we are a minority but how much of a minority are we?

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx
  • buddycat

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    Sep 28, 2015 9:45 AM GMT
    I thought the estimates are generally low that are actually gay and lesbian but there are a lot more bisexuals, whether they admit or not.
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    Sep 28, 2015 11:24 AM GMT
    Of course the studies are exagerated. There is no Census form where they ask a persons sexual orientation. It is simply a count of married vs. single, etc.
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    Sep 28, 2015 11:49 AM GMT
    Interesting article...and with so many topics, the devil is in the details... You have a measure of "public perception" based on each individual's definition of "gay" and their personal interactions, vs "self reporting" of your orientation....
    There are a lot of people out there that lump and judge a person to be "gay" for any number of reasons...including grooming, clothing, car, location, friends, speech, politics, behaviour, a disagreement, etc....vs self reporting, which gets to "honesty" and understanding/accepting the definition of "gay/bi/etc"...are you "gay" if you don't act on it? Are you gay if you experimented with it?
    I don't think that it is possible to get high accuracy delineation on either side of this topic. I believe measuring something as fluid as orientation and perception is always risky trying to assign absolute values to...alway a more general "relative snapshot" of a moment....
    Still.....I would believe around 5% are gay.....and NOT 25%. icon_cool.gif
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    Sep 28, 2015 1:43 PM GMT
    These are informal estimates of the LGBT population, being made by ordinary citizens, not by survey experts. The point of the article is about the public's perception, not the true LGBT density as established by scientific methods.

  • Sep 28, 2015 3:05 PM GMT
    needsomebodytohold saidWhat do you guys think of this article? I know we are a minority but how much of a minority are we?

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx


    Short answer? We just don't know.

    However, this 1 in 10 thing is bullcrap - if it is indeed 1 in 10, that means 1 in 10 gay men, gay women, bi men/women, trans - not just 1 in 10 gay men that you personally find attractive and lust for. And that's where we get it wrong: chances are the amount of men who identify as gay and will admit it is probably 2-3%. The tricky thing is that with the internet it's easy to believe that we are all college-aged athletic affluent men of means, and now that most gay socializing is on social networking apps/sites, we believe the pictures and profiles we see. The reality is most gay men, and I've seen this to be true, are on average a good 20 years older and 100 pounds fatter than these photos most of you look at online. The majority of our community does not look like that. And we just can't get past that: we are so obsessed with non-gay college jocks that we don't even recognize or care about other gay men. Worse yet, we've become so accustomed to those photos that other 'everyday' gay men won't be enough to stimulate us sexually or otherwise - so we are more isolated than ever. We use the filters on these sites and apps so the only people we talk to are exactly the ones with the physical qualities we find appealing. Most of us will never get past the age of 15 emotionally. And that's why this whole marriage thing is junk - what good is gay marriage when the majority of us won't ever see a relationship that lasts longer than 3-18 months. We don't even know how to approach someone!

  • metta

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    Sep 28, 2015 3:24 PM GMT

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx



    What surprises me is that they found people that would estimate it that high. I have never seen a study done that estimates it that high.


    "Whereas 38% of Americans said gay and lesbian relations were morally acceptable in 2002, that number has risen to 63% today. And while 35% of Americans favored legalized same-sex marriage in 1999, 60% favor it today."

    That is a pretty amazing change in 13 years. Historically, I don't think that society changed that quickly which is probably why we see a few people behaving like Kim Davis.
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    Sep 28, 2015 5:34 PM GMT
    I'd say the problem lies with the self reporting more than anything else. When trying to justify ourselves to straight people we constantly ask, why would anyone choose to be gay? Why would any choose to answere yes to being lgbt on a phone survey. If you love your wife but like bottoming for a man from time to time your not gay. Should the straight guy I once tried sleeping with because he was experimenting consider himself lgbt because he's tried to sleep with multiple guys unsucessfully, but just can't get aroused by a man?

    Self reporting probably underestimates how many gay, lesbian and particularly bi sexual people there are. Bi people are rarely out of the closet unless it's beneficial for them to do so. Why would the vast majority of them answere yes to being lgbt.
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    Sep 28, 2015 9:48 PM GMT
    very difficult to determine something that is a tiny tiny percentage of the population.

    -At least we know we are not the 10% Alfred Kinsey estimated we were back in 1948. Maybe everything he said was shite totally wrong.
    - the CDC said in 2013 we are 1.6% gay, 0.7% Bisexual.


    with these numbers so less than expected makes you wonder why anyone would care.
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    Sep 28, 2015 10:16 PM GMT
    pellaz saidvery difficult to determine something that is a tiny tiny percentage of the population.

    -At least we know we are not the 10% Alfred Kinsey estimated we were back in 1948. Maybe everything he said was shite totally wrong.
    - the CDC said in 2013 we are 1.6% gay, 0.7% Bisexual.


    with these numbers so less than expected makes you wonder why anyone would care.


    I'll never believe anyone's numbers on sexual orientation because it's such a personal subject that everyone has a different definition of.
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    Sep 29, 2015 3:20 PM GMT
    Studies show that most Americans have poor grasp of percentages.
  • Apparition

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    Sep 29, 2015 10:15 PM GMT
    There are a whole host of companies that could nail down and release the numbers if they chose to.

    Google, walmart, facebook, pornhub, redtube, netflix, amazon, citibank, visa, mastercard, american express, etc.
  • waccamatt

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    Sep 30, 2015 2:49 AM GMT
    No poll is going to truly count the true percentage of LGBT people because the majority of our people are still in the closet. Look at this site and how many faceless profiles are on here. I think 7 or 8% is likely about right.
  • waccamatt

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    Sep 30, 2015 4:37 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    waccamatt saidLook at this site and how many faceless profiles are on here.


    Lots of cowards on this site.

    Either they're still in the closet or they're trolling the site under fake profiles. Either of which is rather spineless, if you ask me.



    My sentiments exactly.