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bro4bro

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Sep 29, 2015 1:46 AM GMT

Just got home from a weekend in Vegas and I thought I'd pass along some observations.

I hadn't been to Vegas for about 2 1/2 years. On this trip I noticed a LOT more male couples publicly holding hands or walking arm in arm. Interestingly enough, almost all of them were Latino, of various gay demographics (twinks, bears, jocks...). I mention this because Latino society is not known for its tolerance. In LA, outside of West Hollywood, it's very rare to see Latino guys holding hands - mostly because in a lot of Latino neighborhoods it'd be kinda dangerous.

It could be that they were all visiting Vegas from out of town and felt bolder being away from the prying eyes of family and homies, in a place known for its anything-goes attitude. Hard to tell if that was the case since I saw many of them at an outdoor music festival where lots of locals as well as tourists were in attendance. But there were also many couples holding hands while walking on the Strip; these were certainly all tourists.

At any rate, it seems that times are changing. Hopefully taking a few test runs like this under "safe" circumstances will help everyone feel more comfortable with it in everyday life.

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Sep 29, 2015 2:09 AM GMT

I miss being able to be affectionate in public. I can't wait to move back home

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Sep 29, 2015 2:12 AM GMT

I don't recall going a single day without seeing two men holding hands here in New Orleans. Today I saw at least 3 different couples holding hands. Possibly even more but it's such a non-event I tend not to even take notice.

LostSailor

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Sep 29, 2015 2:26 AM GMT

I live in Vegas. I see the tourist doing it..kinda like 'going crazy while they are on vacation' by holding hands in public.
This town tends to loosen people up.
Once you get off the strip, its as common or uncommon as any other place.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE doing it.
Mostly cuz it annoys other people.
But sometimes I really just wanna hold a guys fucking hand.
Feels NORMAL to do it with somebody you care about.
When Im 'involved' with a guy..no matter what when or where, when we see eachother there is GOING to be a kiss and a hug.

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Sep 29, 2015 2:33 AM GMT

Did you come to Vegas for the Life is Beautiful music fest?

I agree with LostSailor. It is like any other place except for the strip. People are more bold, but it has improved from many years back. Now if only my boyfriend would loosen up too and hold my hand when we walk hahaha!

bro4bro

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Sep 29, 2015 3:12 AM GMT

I came to Vegas because I needed a weekend out of LA and I had an airline voucher that was going to expire. But yeah I was at the Life Is Beautiful festival. Had a great time! Just wish that hot "str8" surfer boy from the Valley I met at the Troubador Stage (the dance music venue) hadn't chickened out and bailed on me... ;-)

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Sep 29, 2015 6:01 PM GMT

Vegas definitely loosens people up

bro4bro

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Sep 29, 2015 7:24 PM GMT

Actually there were a shitload of people holding hands as they walked down the Strip - gay and str8. Something about the place makes you want to grab the hand of whoever's next to you and hang on. I truly wished I had someone's hand to hold.

I'm not sure if it's the glamour and excitement... or the abject horror...

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Sep 29, 2015 7:42 PM GMT

bro4bro saidI truly wished I had someone's hand to hold.

Aww, cute.

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Sep 29, 2015 10:52 PM GMT

Radd saidI don't recall going a single day without seeing two men holding hands here in New Orleans. Today I saw at least 3 different couples holding hands. Possibly even more but it's such a non-event I tend not to even take notice.

As it should be everywhere some day...

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Sep 30, 2015 1:20 AM GMT

It's cute to hold hands in public, doesn't matter the race of the guy. Affection is universal.

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Sep 30, 2015 6:53 AM GMT

LostSailor saidI live in Vegas. I see the tourist doing it..kinda like 'going crazy while they are on vacation' by holding hands in public.
This town tends to loosen people up.
Once you get off the strip, its as common or uncommon as any other place.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE doing it.
Mostly cuz it annoys other people.
But sometimes I really just wanna hold a guys fucking hand.
Feels NORMAL to do it with somebody you care about.
When Im 'involved' with a guy..no matter what when or where, when we see eachother there is GOING to be a kiss and a hug.

Wow. .... you're definitely my type. .. xoxo

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Oct 05, 2015 8:34 AM GMT

I mean if it's late at night and everyone is drunk, I mean what can you do. If it is in the heart of the day and all, that's kinda not my thing but if you're a couple, it's human nature to want to show the world your affection.

I hate PDA for obscure reasons. I just get jealous as fuck because I wish that were me.

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Oct 05, 2015 5:51 PM GMT

Boaxy said
I hate PDA for obscure reasons. I just get jealous as fuck because I wish that were me.

Hmmm....thats interesting.
If u wish it was you---MAKE IT YOU!

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Oct 05, 2015 5:59 PM GMT

TheCodee saidDid you come to Vegas for the Life is Beautiful music fest?

I agree with LostSailor. It is like any other place except for the strip. People are more bold, but it has improved from many years back. Now if only my boyfriend would loosen up too and hold my hand when we walk hahaha!

My dude is the same way. Only time I can do PDA with him is around family or friends.

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Oct 05, 2015 6:00 PM GMT

bro4bro saidActually there were a shitload of people holding hands as they walked down the Strip - gay and str8. Something about the place makes you want to grab the hand of whoever's next to you and hang on. I truly wished I had someone's hand to hold.

I'm not sure if it's the glamour and excitement... or the abject horror...

The fact that you have not been snapped up is a sign of all that is wrong in the world.

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Oct 05, 2015 6:19 PM GMT

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bro4bro saidActually there were a shitload of people holding hands as they walked down the Strip - gay and str8. Something about the place makes you want to grab the hand of whoever's next to you and hang on. I truly wished I had someone's hand to hold.

I'm not sure if it's the glamour and excitement... or the abject horror...

The fact that you have not been snapped up is a sign of all that is wrong in the world.

You can't snap up the unwilling

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Oct 05, 2015 6:31 PM GMT

MrFuscle said
ShiftyJK08 said
bro4bro saidActually there were a shitload of people holding hands as they walked down the Strip - gay and str8. Something about the place makes you want to grab the hand of whoever's next to you and hang on. I truly wished I had someone's hand to hold.

I'm not sure if it's the glamour and excitement... or the abject horror...

The fact that you have not been snapped up is a sign of all that is wrong in the world.

You can't snap up the unwilling

LOL he sounds willing. @bro4bro are you playing hard to get?

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Oct 05, 2015 6:55 PM GMT

ShiftyJK08 said@bro4bro are you playing hard to get?

He sounds extremely picky in his profile, dauntingly so. That's his prerogative, though.

I think about PDAs, but then we just had a very bad bashing here a few weeks ago. A guy was jumped just off the main strip, hit in the head with a baseball bat and thrown INTO a car with 4 people. They dumped him off a short distance later and beat the crap out of him. They took his phone but not his wallet and he said they were yelling "fag" or similar. I think he's ok but I'm not sure about lasting injuries and I can only imagine the psychological trauma...

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JackBoneTX said
ShiftyJK08 said@bro4bro are you playing hard to get?

He sounds extremely picky in his profile, dauntingly so. That's his prerogative, though.

I think about PDAs, but then we just had a very bad bashing here a few weeks ago. A guy was jumped just off the main strip, hit in the head with a baseball bat and thrown INTO a car with 4 people. They dumped him off a short distance later and beat the crap out of him. They took his phone but not his wallet and he said they were yelling "fag" or similar. I think he's ok but I'm not sure about lasting injuries and I can only imagine the psychological trauma...

Wow. Thats really fucked up. Ive seen guys holding hands in coney island which is basically the ghetto next to an amusement park. There are still dickheads of course but I believe things changed for the best in NYC

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Oct 05, 2015 7:32 PM GMT

JackBoneTX said
ShiftyJK08 said@bro4bro are you playing hard to get?

He sounds extremely picky in his profile, dauntingly so. That's his prerogative, though.

The truth?

In real life I'm not so picky, because I live in a place where I very rarely meet anyone willing to go on a date. I haven't been approached by a guy here in my town in over 15 years. And I've done my share of approaching, mostly to no avail.

But on a website with thousands of hot guys from all over the globe (most of whom I'll never come within a thousand miles of), damn right I'm picky. I'm going for the dream.

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Oct 05, 2015 7:48 PM GMT

bro4bro said
JackBoneTX said
ShiftyJK08 said@bro4bro are you playing hard to get?

He sounds extremely picky in his profile, dauntingly so. That's his prerogative, though.

The truth?

In real life I'm not so picky, because I live in a place where I very rarely meet anyone willing to go on a date. I haven't been approached by a guy here in my town in over 15 years. And I've done my share of approaching, mostly to no avail.

But on a website with thousands of hot guys from all over the globe (most of whom I'll never come within a thousand miles of), damn right I'm picky. I'm going for the dream.

Are you maybe intimidating in public without meaning to be? Although if you're doing the approaching that doesn't make sense. Maybe LA is just hardcore, IDK. Wish I knew what to tell ya.

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Oct 05, 2015 7:51 PM GMT

tmac said
JackBoneTX said
ShiftyJK08 said@bro4bro are you playing hard to get?

He sounds extremely picky in his profile, dauntingly so. That's his prerogative, though.

I think about PDAs, but then we just had a very bad bashing here a few weeks ago. A guy was jumped just off the main strip, hit in the head with a baseball bat and thrown INTO a car with 4 people. They dumped him off a short distance later and beat the crap out of him. They took his phone but not his wallet and he said they were yelling "fag" or similar. I think he's ok but I'm not sure about lasting injuries and I can only imagine the psychological trauma...

Wow. Thats really fucked up. Ive seen guys holding hands in coney island which is basically the ghetto next to an amusement park. There are still dickheads of course but I believe things changed for the best in NYC

My friends were singled out, followed into the subway and one was beat up, on West 4th St in the heart of gayopolis. Countless people saw it and nobody did anything to stop the guy or help my friends. Their story made the news and the commenters, even on gay sites, derisively compared them to Cam and Mitch, etc.

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ShiftyJK08 said
tmac said
JackBoneTX said
ShiftyJK08 said@bro4bro are you playing hard to get?

He sounds extremely picky in his profile, dauntingly so. That's his prerogative, though.

I think about PDAs, but then we just had a very bad bashing here a few weeks ago. A guy was jumped just off the main strip, hit in the head with a baseball bat and thrown INTO a car with 4 people. They dumped him off a short distance later and beat the crap out of him. They took his phone but not his wallet and he said they were yelling "fag" or similar. I think he's ok but I'm not sure about lasting injuries and I can only imagine the psychological trauma...

Wow. Thats really fucked up. Ive seen guys holding hands in coney island which is basically the ghetto next to an amusement park. There are still dickheads of course but I believe things changed for the best in NYC

My friends were singled out, followed into the subway and one was beat up, on West 4th St in the heart of gayopolis. Countless people saw it and nobody did anything to stop the guy or help my friends. Their story made the news and the commenters, even on gay sites, derisively compared them to Cam and Mitch, etc.

This news is extremely discouraging and makes me fear for my own safety because I wear prosthetics and obviously can't run. Most people can't tell I'm gay anyway, but it's discouraging nonetheless.

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Oct 05, 2015 8:09 PM GMT

ShiftyJK08 said
tmac said
JackBoneTX said
ShiftyJK08 said@bro4bro are you playing hard to get?

He sounds extremely picky in his profile, dauntingly so. That's his prerogative, though.

I think about PDAs, but then we just had a very bad bashing here a few weeks ago. A guy was jumped just off the main strip, hit in the head with a baseball bat and thrown INTO a car with 4 people. They dumped him off a short distance later and beat the crap out of him. They took his phone but not his wallet and he said they were yelling "fag" or similar. I think he's ok but I'm not sure about lasting injuries and I can only imagine the psychological trauma...

Wow. Thats really fucked up. Ive seen guys holding hands in coney island which is basically the ghetto next to an amusement park. There are still dickheads of course but I believe things changed for the best in NYC

My friends were singled out, followed into the subway and one was beat up, on West 4th St in the heart of gayopolis. Countless people saw it and nobody did anything to stop the guy or help my friends. Their story made the news and the commenters, even on gay sites, derisively compared them to Cam and Mitch, etc.

The bystander effect in nyc is insane. Im not surprised no one helped. Last year a man almost got ran over by a usps van on union street. I reacted in time to prevent that but quickly noticed that no one(not even my bf) acted. Im just glad I was there when it did.

Also, internet comments are not exactly known for sympathetic people. Im sorry for what happened to your friend. I hope that is his last experience of being singled out

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