Going insane - in love with a KIND A straight dude

  • stanleyboy

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    Sep 29, 2015 9:54 PM GMT
    Hey guys!
    First of all, I'm sorry if it's too long, but I can't explain it otherwise.
    So I'm new here, got here accidentally googling.
    I'm 23.

    I've fallen for this boy, a friend of mine, with whom for the past 3 months I became very close (ever since he broke up with his girl).
    He's all macho and shit, perfect body, pretty face and IS PLAYING WITH MY GAYDAR icon_evil.gif

    He knows I'm gay (well bisexual), he knows I LOVE him.
    We call each other almost everyday, see each other all the time, even been to Greece together (sadly nothing happened), he tried to DO some girls there, to "get" at his exgirl who slept with some dude the day after they broke up.

    Now the DEAL, well he's confusing as shit, touches me too much for a straight dude who knows that the person he touches is attracted to him.
    He constantly tries to get into an orgy with me and some girl - one time almost happened, rubbed my ass for a couple of minutes while we were all close together, then the girl stopped everything and we went home..
    He also talks all the time about how in the future -everyone will be sexually fluid..

    He's all "straight" as he says, all of our friends think (rumour) we're a couple because we're too much together and never with the group - and nobody knows about me there…

    He plans for us (?!?!?) to move together somewhere or to go to the US together..
    He made EVERYONE believe that we are a couple and didn’t fucking notice…

    I really don’t want to loose him as a friend, he keeps me motivated and is really good to me, but it hurts so much I can’t just kiss him and do stuff to him.
    I’m pretty sure he’s a bisexual and is afraid to “change” his sexuality, that’s why he’s all into an idea of being together with a girl and me, but I don’t know.

    Plus, I don’t know what happened to me the past 2 years, but he’s the only guy I’ve fallen for.
    I was all sexually active while serving in the military (2-3 different partners every week - I've been serving in the city...), but lost it completely after I finished my service…
    AND - BOOM there comes Ben, my super hot and good friend who messes with my brains.

    So while I’m going to go a little bit insane here and cry a bit, you tell me what you think?
  • HottJoe

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    Sep 29, 2015 10:02 PM GMT
    Tell him how you feel. If he's gay or bi, then he might feel the same way. If he's straight then maybe at least he'll realize that he shouldn't lead you on. If doesn't take your feelings seriously, then you'd probably be better off without him.
  • SilverRRCloud

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    Sep 30, 2015 5:04 AM GMT
    The time has come for you to call your shots, and for him to do so.

    There is no point in carrying on with the business as usual, because you are just wasting your life wondering, asking yourself, waiting, and thinking that something may or may not come out of it.

    Tell him that you want to get going with him, all the nine yards. If he wants to stay str8, look for a gf, etc., he'll tell you that, and you'll have to move on.

    Otherwise, you may have just hit the jackpot.

    But waiting any longer is not an option!

    SC
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    Sep 30, 2015 6:09 AM GMT
    Go with the three way with a chick angle. He'll feel safer exploring that way. By the end of the session you'll know if he's into you.
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    Sep 30, 2015 4:50 PM GMT
    Sometimes a guy will call himself straight when what he means is that he has sex with guys but he doesn't allow himself to have feelings for guys. Good luck man.
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    Sep 30, 2015 6:54 PM GMT
    He's the 'bro' kinda guy, I don't think he has that feelings with you nor his messing up with you.
    You can go honest with him and tell him, or control yourself on not thinking about him, which is difficult to.
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    Sep 30, 2015 7:53 PM GMT
    Firebrand/Incendiary?
  • HottJoe

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    Sep 30, 2015 7:55 PM GMT
    Compaq saidFirebrand/Incendiary?

    How lame would that be? It's such a dull trolling topic.
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    Sep 30, 2015 7:59 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Compaq saidFirebrand/Incendiary?

    How lame would that be? It's such a dull trolling topic.


    Sounds like him and Ashdod, HaMerkaz, Israel.icon_lol.gif He likes to pick those unusual locations. I love when a person joins and their first post is RealJockDramatica material.
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    Sep 30, 2015 8:16 PM GMT
    I remember when, at your age, constantly trying to get my best friends to Eiffel Tower some random club chick with me in the hopes my dick would "accidentally" enter the wrong hole.
    Out of the three ridiculously handsome best buds only one took me up on it.
    The next morning I couldn't claim to be the least bit straight again.
  • stanleyboy

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    Sep 30, 2015 11:21 PM GMT
    Compaq said
    HottJoe said
    Compaq saidFirebrand/Incendiary?

    How lame would that be? It's such a dull trolling topic.


    Sounds like him and Ashdod, HaMerkaz, Israel.icon_lol.gif He likes to pick those unusual locations. I love when a person joins and their first post is RealJockDramatica material.


    That's my city, that's where I live, need a picture maybe?
    I'm also a bit of a drama queen sometimes, what can I do, I'm an emotional boy who sometimes pours his heart in a forum, like other people.
    You could've just passed this topic...
    Thank you for your concern...


    anyway, thanks everyone for answers, I decided to move on, he pretty much knows that I like him a lot, so that's his choice to make if he wants me or not.
    I think that I did some pretty stupid things because of these emotions.
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    Oct 01, 2015 1:25 AM GMT
    When I first read your main thread I was like ''it must be really hard for this guy and i really don't wanna be in the same situation someday''.
    But seriously man, I think your friend must listen to you, I think you go out together down the beach, in calm spot and just tell him how you really feel, tell him that you wanna stare at his eyes, that you wanna get closer to his face, to feel his breath and to kiss him like you never kissed a guy before.
    If I were you I would definetly do that, and I think this guy has really some interest in you, maybe he is too afraid.
    Just think about it man, he grabbed you ass, he calls you every day, you are always together, people think you guys are a couple, he is planning for you guys to move together to the US, he is bisexual....ect and your know the whole list of other signs.
    Budyy just go for it and tell him what you really feel.
    Get your Ben icon_smile.gif
  • stanleyboy

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    Oct 01, 2015 7:36 AM GMT
    calime61 saidWhen I first read your main thread I was like ''it must be really hard for this guy and i really don't wanna be in the same situation someday''.
    But seriously man, I think your friend must listen to you, I think you go out together down the beach, in calm spot and just tell him how you really feel, tell him that you wanna stare at his eyes, that you wanna get closer to his face, to feel his breath and to kiss him like you never kissed a guy before.
    If I were you I would definetly do that, and I think this guy has really some interest in you, maybe he is too afraid.
    Just think about it man, he grabbed you ass, he calls you every day, you are always together, people think you guys are a couple, he is planning for you guys to move together to the US, he is bisexual....ect and your know the whole list of other signs.
    Budyy just go for it and tell him what you really feel.
    Get your Ben icon_smile.gif


    LOL
    God, I wish I just could control myself around him, I cannot, everything I want to say disappears when he's around, dam.

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    Oct 01, 2015 8:57 AM GMT
    Well, if this bastard is flirting too much with you then you just have to flirt harder with him than he is with you. Out-flirt him.

    Oh, and avoid the L-word. And gay. And bisexual.

    But seriously - flirt with him hard. Touch his butt. Look him deep in his eyes. Beat the fucker at his own game.
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    Oct 01, 2015 3:15 PM GMT
    the OP says he is 22yr old and from "Tel Aviv, Israel" with 3 posts.

    you read it first on realjock.com so nice to think this could be true.
  • stanleyboy

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    Oct 01, 2015 6:52 PM GMT
    pellaz saidthe OP says he is 22yr old and from "Tel Aviv, Israel" with 3 posts.

    you read it first on realjock.com so nice to think this could be true.


    I changed it to Tel Aviv for privacy purpose, but my city is Ashdod, I'm 30 minutes away from TLV.
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    Anyways, he just called me couple of minutes ago to tell me that one of his friends from work asked him if he's gay, because he's constantly with me.
    He told him that he's straight and we're just friends..
    Ive never seen that guy before and he thought that we were together because some girl that worked with me told him..

    I told him that it makes me a bit mad, cause I've never told her about my sexual preferences and it's not their business... (im closeted)

    He calmed me down and said that I shouldn't care.. asked me if I want to go to the beach on Saturday...
    ...

    SO, finally he noticed that he acts in a way that people think stuff about us.
    I don't know what to do with that information..

    It opens me a couple of options that might happen
    Either, nothing... Cause that's the way he responded, that it's alright, and he worried more about me.
    Or maybe he will distance himself from me, which is less probable, but I think it's still an option, maybe it will be easier for me that way, cause it's really hard for me to do that step.

    fuck this obsession of mine icon_neutral.gificon_neutral.gificon_cry.gif

    fuck me for falling for the wrong guys all the time ALLLLLL THE TIMEEEEE
    I go for these "straights" that make me miserable, one became religious after half year with me, first guy he's been with, fuck him for trying me, fuckign broke my heart.
    the other one, ex-friend, whom I told about my feelings (high school) just hated me and was so homophobic to me, until suddenly after 2 years of this shit, he became obsessed with me and we fucked for a while, until I understood what the hell I was doing.
    and now, PERFECT guy, who's a really good friend, a really good person with ambitions and everything I was looking in a guy, and I don't get if it's just his "normal" behaviour or he just doesn't realize his feelings towards me (if there any).


    WHY CANT I JUST LOVE NORMAL GUYS????
    My self esteem is getting lower each fucking time

    I'm so confused fuck!!
    What do I doooo, what the fuck I'm sopoused to do, it's not leaving my fucking brains.

    AND SORRRY for the drama, it's the first time I'm so fucking desperate, I feel like garbage.

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    Oct 02, 2015 12:24 AM GMT
    I tell you what to do, pretty simple.
    Remembered when I mentioned you and him going to the beach?
    If so here's your chance man just tell him the TRUTH, look at him deep in the eyes and tell him how you feel buddy.
  • stanleyboy

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    Oct 02, 2015 12:33 PM GMT
    Thanks for the answers you guys!
    When I get him (or not) I'll update lol
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    Oct 02, 2015 1:36 PM GMT
    Get wasted with him. See what happens.
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    Oct 02, 2015 3:01 PM GMT
    This guy is not into you at all. He is Bi-Sexual and you are his toy, his side-dish. You mentioned that he prefers a threesome, with a girl involved. He is making out as if he loves you, but sorry to say, he prefers a 'nice pussy'. I asked this question before and will ask it again, "Do you like a Beef sausage dipped in smelly fish, then inserted between a nice pair of buns?"
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    Oct 02, 2015 5:21 PM GMT
    Two bi-guys IMHO creates more problems than a gay/straight or a straight/straight relationship.....there it's a bromance.

    That he wants a 3-way with you is telling. Most straight men fantasize about 2 women (twins, lesbians, etc.).....not another guy. The odds of a woman doing 2 guys is less common. He knows that it won't happen, it's the flirting with YOU. He loves the attention.

    That you keep "falling for the wrong guys all the time ALLLLLL THE TIMEEEEE" tells me you're not really into a relationship. You want the excitement, the thrill, the carrot that is unattainable. It's kind of like the person who only falls in love with married guys. it's hot, it's sexy, it's forbidden. But ultimately someone is going to get hurt...or worse, just bored.

    Here's what I would say "Look, I love you as a friend. As a buddy. Or more.....My head is screwed up, but if it all came down to just being friends I can do that. My heart is true, but my body wants more. If YOU are not interested in going to another level, that's cool too. But we'll need restrictions....you can't flirt with me anymore!"

    You're vulnerable. He's not. You're giving him even more power in the decision making, but at least you have some control. An end game.
  • stanleyboy

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    Oct 02, 2015 9:52 PM GMT
    timmm55 saidTwo bi-guys IMHO creates more problems than a gay/straight or a straight/straight relationship.....there it's a bromance.

    That he wants a 3-way with you is telling. Most straight men fantasize about 2 women (twins, lesbians, etc.).....not another guy. The odds of a woman doing 2 guys is less common. He knows that it won't happen, it's the flirting with YOU. He loves the attention.

    That you keep "falling for the wrong guys all the time ALLLLLL THE TIMEEEEE" tells me you're not really into a relationship. You want the excitement, the thrill, the carrot that is unattainable. It's kind of like the person who only falls in love with married guys. it's hot, it's sexy, it's forbidden. But ultimately someone is going to get hurt...or worse, just bored.

    Here's what I would say "Look, I love you as a friend. As a buddy. Or more.....My head is screwed up, but if it all came down to just being friends I can do that. My heart is true, but my body wants more. If YOU are not interested in going to another level, that's cool too. But we'll need restrictions....you can't flirt with me anymore!"

    You're vulnerable. He's not. You're giving him even more power in the decision making, but at least you have some control. An end game.


    wow
    thank you for this !!
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    Oct 02, 2015 11:00 PM GMT
    stanleyboy said
    timmm55 saidTwo bi-guys IMHO creates more problems than a gay/straight or a straight/straight relationship.....there it's a bromance.

    That he wants a 3-way with you is telling. Most straight men fantasize about 2 women (twins, lesbians, etc.).....not another guy. The odds of a woman doing 2 guys is less common. He knows that it won't happen, it's the flirting with YOU. He loves the attention.

    That you keep "falling for the wrong guys all the time ALLLLLL THE TIMEEEEE" tells me you're not really into a relationship. You want the excitement, the thrill, the carrot that is unattainable. It's kind of like the person who only falls in love with married guys. it's hot, it's sexy, it's forbidden. But ultimately someone is going to get hurt...or worse, just bored.

    Here's what I would say "Look, I love you as a friend. As a buddy. Or more.....My head is screwed up, but if it all came down to just being friends I can do that. My heart is true, but my body wants more. If YOU are not interested in going to another level, that's cool too. But we'll need restrictions....you can't flirt with me anymore!"

    You're vulnerable. He's not. You're giving him even more power in the decision making, but at least you have some control. An end game.


    wow
    thank you for this !!


    I've been there!
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    Oct 02, 2015 11:05 PM GMT
    It's considered a rite passage to fall for a straight guy when you're a homo gay boy. Lol, it's ok boo, move on from him, so many other hot gay guys out there. icon_redface.gificon_eek.gif
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    Oct 03, 2015 12:32 AM GMT
    Keep up updated icon_smile.gif