How crowd disasters happen, and how they can be avoided

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    Oct 03, 2015 5:24 PM GMT
    Mass panic? Stampedes? Nonsense, say the experts trying to stop another disaster like last week’s in Mecca: they’re failures of management, and they aren’t inevitable. So why aren’t they a thing of the past?

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/03/hajj-crush-how-crowd-disasters-happen-and-how-they-can-be-avoided
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    Oct 04, 2015 6:38 AM GMT
    At least part of the solution would be to extend the Hajj over a longer period of time to make the crowds smaller. When the Hajj was instituted, there were far fewer Muslims attending it so large crowds weren't much of a problem. Now that more Muslims attend it, the tradition should be modified accordingly to prevent crowd problems.

    In this latest case, the precipitating factor was making special provision for royal family members which resulted in constricting the crowd. If the blame must be assigned to specific people, it should be assigned to the royals who were given the special privilege which resulted in constricting the crowd. That factor has been covered by the news.
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    Oct 04, 2015 10:01 AM GMT
    I was just highlighting the crowd dynamics side of the story. The media (and a few people here) have tended to sensationalize this tragedy, using words like "stampede" and "trampled", like it was just a bunch of hysterical people almost deliberately running over one another. The truth, of course, is that most people died from suffocation.