Travelling to Dubai

  • maxferguson

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    Oct 08, 2015 5:23 AM GMT
    Boyfriend and I are looking at getting away and found dirt cheap flights to Dubai. Obviously there's not a thriving gay community there (which is fine), but wondering if anyone has ever travelled there and had problems. Are gay tourists at risk like there would be in Doha?
  • sleaver

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    Oct 15, 2015 8:49 AM GMT
    You are not at risk at all!

    I actually can recommend you so many things to do in Dubai and I would also suggest visiting Oman which is another Gulf country that's an hour away! Beautiful beaches and hiking trails (if it's your thing)!

    This is the best time for you to visit the region, the temperatures are cooling down (summer here can reach 130-135).

    No PDA because you're just two friends traveling together ;). Some hotels are strict with bed choices, so you have to get a room with two single beds. Others (high end ones) will understand and let it slide.

    It depends really, DM me if you'd like extra information.

    Best,

    A
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    Oct 15, 2015 10:22 AM GMT
    I would NEVER recommend for a gay couple to go to Dubai - from the LGBT Rights in the UAE page:

    The United Arab Emirates includes the Emirates of Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Ras al-Khaimah, Umm Al Quwain, Ajman, Fujairah and Sharjah. Sexual relations outside a traditional, heterosexual marriage are a crime. The death penalty applies for homosexuality. Punishments range from jail time, fines, deportation, and the death penalty. Adultery and fornication are also crimes, and a person convicted of homosexuality may also face charges of adultery if they have a spouse while having sexual relations with a person of the same sex. The laws, some of which were introduced by the British during the colonial period, are still vigorously enforced.
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    Oct 15, 2015 1:15 PM GMT
    If you respect the country's culture and social norms I see no reason why you will get in any trouble there. Dubai is unique and it's worth the trip.
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    Oct 15, 2015 3:19 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidIf you respect the country's culture and social norms I see no reason why you will get in any trouble there. Dubai is unique and it's worth the trip.


    OK in case you missed it - HOMOSEXUALITY IS ILLLEGAL THERE

    I don't understand why you'd want to go on holiday somewhere like that, even if you don't experience any trouble, why contribute to an economy where who you are is a crime?
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    Oct 15, 2015 3:29 PM GMT
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  • sleaver

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    Oct 15, 2015 8:59 PM GMT
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    DOMINUS saidIf you respect the country's culture and social norms I see no reason why you will get in any trouble there. Dubai is unique and it's worth the trip.


    OK in case you missed it - HOMOSEXUALITY IS ILLLEGAL THERE

    I don't understand why you'd want to go on holiday somewhere like that, even if you don't experience any trouble, why contribute to an economy where who you are is a crime?


    It's all about broadening your horizons and experiencing different cultures, not everyone is accepting of everything in the world.

    Be the bigger person and go out there and see why for yourself.

    I personally am for visiting Dubai and I have many gay friends that visit there often and even invested in properties there.

    I understand your views, however, I personally don't have to enforce my beliefs or way of life onto anyone.

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    Oct 15, 2015 9:29 PM GMT
    I have a bigger problem with this, frankly.

    http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-20/new-documentary-gives-us-peek-life-inside-labor-camps-dubai
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    Oct 16, 2015 8:47 AM GMT
    sleaver said
    I understand your views, however, I personally don't have to enforce my beliefs or way of life onto anyone.


    I don't know why you would say that because I clearly am not doing that in any way whatsoever. I'm saying I don't understand it, not forbidding anyone else from going.

    Personally I'd much rather go to many other beautiful countries where I'm not in fear for my life and the laws are not totally incompatible with my views on equality and basic human rights - but hey, I'm not enforcing those beliefs on anyone, I just reserve the right to think it's bizarre not to think the same.
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    Oct 16, 2015 7:18 PM GMT
    PulseFit said
    sleaver said
    I understand your views, however, I personally don't have to enforce my beliefs or way of life onto anyone.


    I don't know why you would say that because I clearly am not doing that in any way whatsoever. I'm saying I don't understand it, not forbidding anyone else from going.

    Personally I'd much rather go to many other beautiful countries where I'm not in fear for my life and the laws are not totally incompatible with my views on equality and basic human rights - but hey, I'm not enforcing those beliefs on anyone, I just reserve the right to think it's bizarre not to think the same.



    Then you should re-read your response to my post, particularly the first sentence, the tone of which betrays your true intentions (never mind the fact that it's condescending). I took 3 years off from my international law firm practice to travel the world, and one of the best destinations to which I had the pleasure of going was Dubai. There are clearly some of us on this site--perhaps the more traveled ones--who are able to appreciate a country's culture and attractions independent of its political or social landscape. Perhaps you should ask why people go to China.
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    Oct 16, 2015 8:24 PM GMT
    We went to Egypt despite similar issues. I was conflicted about it, but we had no issues, and -- as stated -- I guess having your head in the sand about it doesn't really change what's going on for the people there. It's not like a.) we have anything like that here, or b.) we're without our own social problems.

    But I also understand why someone would hesitate to go.

    I have a gay friend who lives and works in the UAE and AFAIK he has not had any issues. However, I also don't have any particular desire to go there... it sort of strikes as Vegas, only more so. So many other places I'd go see first.
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    Oct 17, 2015 4:16 AM GMT
    I respect the adventurousness and bravery of you guys who would willingly travel to places where homosexuality is a capital offense. But as for me, I would avoid such places like the plague.
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    Oct 17, 2015 11:38 AM GMT
    I haven't been to Dubai, but it is a very accessible (and popular) destination for Brits. My brother and sister-in-law visited there recently and said it was enjoyable, but they wouldn't be in any hurry to return. I think their impression of the place was "all bling and little substance".

    Political considerations notwithstanding, my main criteria for visiting a city are how walk-able and culturally interesting it is. I'm not a sun worshiper and prefer a mild climate, so places like London, Paris, Rome and New York are always going to top my list.
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    Oct 20, 2015 4:25 PM GMT
    DOMINUS said

    Then you should re-read your response to my post, particularly the first sentence, the tone of which betrays your true intentions


    Which you think are what, exactly? Please elaborate. My only intention is passing on information because I wouldn't like someone to go somewhere they could encounter legal problems simply for being themselves. If you think I have some other intention then that's your problem I'm afraid.
  • SwimBIkeRun94...

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    Oct 20, 2015 10:35 PM GMT
    I am not a fan of Dubai because there's really no culture there other than synthetic construction and fabricated bling. We've had that in the western world for quite some time, it's called 5th Avenue, Oxford Street, Ritz-Carlton/Four Seasons, Ginza, Champs Elysees, etc.

    It makes it easier to avoid since they hate gays; would prefer my money go elsewhere.