McCARTHY OUT: Not enough republican support... who will be the next Speaker of the House??

  • HndsmKansan

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    Oct 08, 2015 5:07 PM GMT
    So McCarthy babbled and didn't make sense at times in the way he structured his sentences... at least he made some political sense (in light of what some right wing members say...lol). Now that he wasn't able to gain enough support, what will (and who) will be the next Speaker?
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    Oct 08, 2015 5:52 PM GMT
    Dick Cheney endorsed McCarthy yesterday. What happened?
  • rnch

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    Oct 08, 2015 6:13 PM GMT
    Good to see you posting again, HK.

    I've missed your common sense, down-to-earth threads and replies.


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  • tj85016

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    Oct 08, 2015 6:29 PM GMT
    lol, this big-mouth fool McCarthy really should have kept his mouth shut for a little bit after Boehner's resignation

    but these GOP glory whores just can't help themselves, they have no tact, no sense of being subtle and clever
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    Oct 08, 2015 8:07 PM GMT
    HappyNomad saidDick Cheney endorsed McCarthy yesterday. What happened?




    THIS does not surprise me, Dick "war machine" Cheney one bit, republican Kevin McCarthy's CA district includes, Mojave Desert (secret planes including Virgin Galactic, NASA), Edwards Air Force Base and Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake
    [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California%27s_23rd_congressional_district[/url]

    Hello!

    He still holds Mitch McConnell's old job, House Majority lead?


    Interesting, McCarthy's bill expanded China Lake, hmmm

    Obama administration opposes China Lake expansion
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/29/obama-administration-opposes-china-lake-expansion/

  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 09, 2015 2:50 AM GMT
    The Republican party is a chaotic mess. They can't even govern their own party, but they expect us to believe they can govern the whole country?

    Their new litmus test for House leader is someone who will shut down the government, sending the US into default on its debt, which will have catastrophic economic consequences -- Republicans will then try to blame it all on Obama.
    Wall Street is already beginning to panic at the prospect of Republicans crashing the economy again.
    "We will not mince words—this is the political equivalent of a dumpster fire," said Chris Krueger of Guggenheim Securities. "

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/wall-street-rattled-by-house-gop-bedlam-214572#ixzz3o0PF2eFa
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    Oct 09, 2015 2:58 AM GMT
    The excessive spending continues!!
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 09, 2015 3:04 AM GMT
    The tea partiers, supply siders, and narrow minded bible thumping screwballs have literally demolished the GOP. Whether or not the GOP can ever recover and rebuild after such a long lasting, destructive thrashing remains to be seen. I have become highly doubtful that the GOP will regain any credibility on the national level. It is pretty much a lost cause. How horribly sad.icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 09, 2015 3:47 AM GMT
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    Oct 09, 2015 3:49 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThe tea partiers, supply siders, and narrow minded bible thumping screwballs have literally demolished the GOP. Whether or not the GOP can ever recover and rebuild after such a long lasting, destructive thrashing remains to be seen. I have become highly doubtful that the GOP will regain any credibility on the national level. It is pretty much a lost cause. How horribly sad.icon_sad.gif


    We showed exactly how demolished on Nov 4, 2014

    http://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/elections-results-2014/
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    Oct 09, 2015 3:51 AM GMT
    HappyNomad saidDick Cheney endorsed McCarthy yesterday. What happened?


    Well well, wonder who this is?
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    Oct 09, 2015 4:44 AM GMT
    Moderates in the Party better seize control of it before it disintegrates. I'm seeing parallels with the Social Credit party in Canada. For the Non-Canadians (and younger Canadians) on this site, the SCP was a small-c conservative party that did quite well in its time for decades, including winning elections. It eventually evaporated in large part because it became too identified with social conservatism and voters eventually migrated to leftist parties and newer, more moderate (relatively) conservative parties.

    The Party governed British Columbia as recently as 1991 before it completely collapsed, almost within a year.
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    Oct 09, 2015 7:29 AM GMT
    Interesting, coming from "liberal" Silicon Valley (Manhattan West), I guess this place isn't so liberal after all, makes sense though, follow the money, at the end, establishment republicans.

    I just cant figure it out, republicans hate "common core" higher education standards, I thought. May be its just the right wing tea baggers that are opposed? It would appear as if the progressive Dems and establishment Repubs DO have something in common, OH, MY icon_confused.gif



    Silicon Valley, California disappointed as Kevin McCarthy abandons Speaker bid
    http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_28941506/silicon-valley-california-disappointed-kevin-mccarthy-abandons-speaker


    McCarthy, R-Bakersfield, has visited Silicon Valley often since his state Assembly days, speaks a lot about its huge potential as an economic driver and political force, and has earned a reputation for being curious about new technology and responsive to the tech sector's needs. Though heir apparent to outgoing Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, McCarthy left the race Thursday amid heavy opposition from the party's right flank.

    "We've gone from an exclamation point to a question mark," Carl Guardino, president and CEO of the Silicon Valley Leadership Group, said Thursday. "He understood, appreciated, and more often than not strongly supported the innovation economy. Now we have no idea who will become Speaker and whether they will share... that willingness to support our issues."

    "There are major issues of importance to the technology industry pending before Congress right now -- from international tax reform to cybersecurity and trade," she said. "This leadership transition delays the ability to get things done. I hope that Congress can sort this out quickly so that we can get back to work."

    McCarthy "has really worked the valley moreso than almost any other Republican," said Bill Whalen, a veteran GOP strategist who is now a research fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution. Yet as a fifth-term lawmaker, he'd have been the least-experienced Speaker -- second in the line of succession to the Oval Office -- in more than a century.



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  • mstone18

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    Oct 09, 2015 8:29 AM GMT
    The Republican party is just fighting over titles now.

    The conservative elements are no more credible than fundamental exteremist groups the world over.. they just seek to usurp the Republican title for credibility sake.

    To a degree this does work for them.. people who vote party ticket don't often look below the surface lest they feel responsible for putting some of these cranks in public power.

    The more moderate however for similar reasons don't wish to give up the brand name Republican because it often leads to their re-election with minimal effort.

    But who would want to attempt to lead people who arrive at their opinion without reason? They logically cannot be reasoned with to change their opinion.. because that is not how they got there in the first place.

    Far safer to just sit in the party and remain silent while this extremist element burns itself out. Teenagers often do the same thing, they eventually sabotage their own credibility until no one wants to talk to them. Current example would be Ted Cruz.

    Either the corporations funding the government bills will grow tired of their instability and stop funding them.

    Or real people will just give up and stop voting them back into power.

    The majority of the voting public skews younger and can't relate to the extermists.. except when it comes to income disparity.. and that doesn't align with the Republican party at all.

  • tj85016

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    Oct 09, 2015 8:41 AM GMT
    and we used to poke fun at the Italians icon_lol.gif

    this is even funnier
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 09, 2015 1:08 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidand we used to poke fun at the Italians icon_lol.gif

    this is even funnier
    This isn't funny, it's disgusting. It is very goddamned sad that there is no rational political discourse in the US. Just childish rants and nonsensical mud slinging among both republicans and democrats alike. This is why it is time to evict both major parties from office and elect either independents or members of alternative political parties.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 09, 2015 3:41 PM GMT
    I'm guessing Paul Ryan will be talked into the job he doesn't want
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    Oct 09, 2015 4:05 PM GMT
    always the racial card here; can you over cook hard boiled eggs or something?
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    Oct 09, 2015 4:40 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI'm guessing Paul Ryan will be talked into the job he doesn't want


    One good reason he'd the right guy for the job. Long been my first choice though.
  • mstone18

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    Oct 10, 2015 1:07 AM GMT
    Ryan's got probably a serious shot at the big seat, if he can distance himself from this kindergarden.

    But he can't wipe the sticky mess off his sleeve without some hard feelings and negative press from his own party.

    His best option is to delay and derive a reason to abstain that looks family motivated.. but delaying as long as absolutely possible is the best tactic.

    For one thing it will drive the extreme parts into a frenzy, and the moderates into a recess.

    At worst he might propose a limited tenure with limited responsibilities. Ultimately he doesn't want to appear responsible for this quorum of quarlesome gentle people.

    By the next elections he wants it to be only a distant distasteful memory.. if that.

    His only other option to preserve his options would be to lean liberal or independent and make himself less palatable to the far right.
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    Oct 10, 2015 1:30 AM GMT
    mstone18 saidRyan's got probably a serious shot at the big seat, if he can distance himself from this kindergarden.

    But he can't wipe the sticky mess off his sleeve without some hard feelings and negative press from his own party.

    His best option is to delay and derive a reason to abstain that looks family motivated.. but delaying as long as absolutely possible is the best tactic.

    For one thing it will drive the extreme parts into a frenzy, and the moderates into a recess.

    At worst he might propose a limited tenure with limited responsibilities. Ultimately he doesn't want to appear responsible for this quorum of quarlesome gentle people.

    By the next elections he wants it to be only a distant distasteful memory.. if that.

    His only other option to preserve his options would be to lean liberal or independent and make himself less palatable to the far right.


    It's a tough job with no winning. However, he does have young kids and that should come first, he'll say. I don't totally agree with that, but if he'll go for it, he's probably the best compromise I can think of.
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    Oct 11, 2015 10:13 PM GMT
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