Serious scam issue for seniors, Straight or gay and anywhere in between.

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    Oct 11, 2015 2:50 PM GMT
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/07/us/jamaica-lottery-scam-suicide/index.html

    Very sad.

    We went nuts with this for several years before my parents passed. I have little doubt that it's the exact same scammers. Same 876 numbers. Same Jamaica origins. Same 'technique'.

    This is one big reason I couldn't much work for the four years that I was back here taking care of the parents. I had to get to the house phone first before my dad answered and fall for it.

    We had to do intercepts several times when dad would fall for it. I made frantic calls to the local western union place several time telling them not to do a transaction with my dad when I missed the call and suspected that's where he was going.

    I'd often get the phone first and keep them on the phone as long as I could. Figured I'd save another elderly for a call if I had them ties up. They had our correct address, and threatened to kill me many times, and of course I'd dare them to do it.

    As the article says, the calls would come up to 50 a day. Yep, true. A senior with severe dementia couldn't remember that they just had a call.

    Beware, I think it all started when my dad entered a Publishers Clearinghouse contest, which is close enough to a scam.
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    Oct 12, 2015 11:36 PM GMT
    It ought to be possible for telephone companies, upon request, to block all calls from certain area codes. Surely it would not require the discovery of a new law of physics for them to do that.
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    Oct 12, 2015 11:41 PM GMT
    FRE0 saidIt ought to be possible for telephone companies, upon request, to block all calls from certain area codes. Surely it would not require the discovery of a new law of physics for them to do that.

    They could. But there's no financial incentive for them to do so. They're actually making money connecting the long distance call.
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    Oct 13, 2015 3:31 AM GMT
    FRE0 saidIt ought to be possible for telephone companies, upon request, to block all calls from certain area codes. Surely it would not require the discovery of a new law of physics for them to do that.


    They spoof phone numbers so its never the same one twice. Sorta like socks here sign up with for replacement account using a different IP address each time.
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    Oct 13, 2015 3:38 AM GMT
    I watched the video.

    Heartbreaking for the family...icon_cry.gif
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    Oct 13, 2015 4:05 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    FRE0 saidIt ought to be possible for telephone companies, upon request, to block all calls from certain area codes. Surely it would not require the discovery of a new law of physics for them to do that.


    They spoof phone numbers so its never the same one twice. Sorta like socks here sign up with for replacement account using a different IP address each time.


    It's not surprising that the phone numbers are never the same twice, but aren't the area codes always the same? Can they spoof those also? I don't know all the details of how caller ID works, but I was under the impression that the phone system sent out the caller ID just before the first ring. In what format I don't know, ASCII perhaps? But one would suppose that it would be possible to design the phone system so that spoofing caller IDs would be impossible.
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    Oct 13, 2015 1:24 PM GMT
    FRE0 said
    freedomisntfree said
    FRE0 saidIt ought to be possible for telephone companies, upon request, to block all calls from certain area codes. Surely it would not require the discovery of a new law of physics for them to do that.


    They spoof phone numbers so its never the same one twice. Sorta like socks here sign up with for replacement account using a different IP address each time.


    It's not surprising that the phone numbers are never the same twice, but aren't the area codes always the same? Can they spoof those also? I don't know all the details of how caller ID works, but I was under the impression that the phone system sent out the caller ID just before the first ring. In what format I don't know, ASCII perhaps? But one would suppose that it would be possible to design the phone system so that spoofing caller IDs would be impossible.


    Of course, since the call generally isn't coming from the U.S. anyway. Now with the Jamaican version of the Nigerian 419 scam, a bunch of those calls did show the Jamaican 876 as the originating area code, but not all of them.

    They don't use the phone system to originate the calls. They use a VOIP so it becomes very difficult to figure out a way to block these on a land line.