Muscle-Ups

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    Oct 15, 2015 2:08 PM GMT
    Saw this video recently on muscle-ups and now I want to make this one of my winter goals.



    Can you do 'em? A friend of mine posted a pic of his back recently it really looks great. Turns out he trained himself to do these over the summer.
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    Oct 15, 2015 6:04 PM GMT
    I just got my first one recently. But they were on rings, which seem like they'd be quite a bit harder. I've never done them on a bar like that.

    I had to train myself to get good at kipping pullups and kipping ring dips before I could string them together into a muscle-up.

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    Oct 15, 2015 6:16 PM GMT
    David_Lauderdale saidI just got my first one recently. But they were on rings, which seem like they'd be quite a bit harder. I've never done them on a bar like that.

    I had to train myself to get good at kipping pullups and kipping ring dips before I could string them together into a muscle-up.



    Yes I would think rings would be a lot harder because they want to go in all directions. I figured the bar would be a good starting spot. I have been doing various kinds of pull-ups all summer, varying grip and handle type. Back in my stronger days I used to do them with a plate chained to my lifting belt. You make a good point that I should probably be working more on dips too.
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    Oct 16, 2015 6:50 PM GMT
    Slightly more comprehensive tutorial here:

    http://www.beastskills.com/the-muscle-up/
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    Oct 16, 2015 7:03 PM GMT
    grofte saidSlightly more comprehensive tutorial here:

    http://www.beastskills.com/the-muscle-up/


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    Oct 17, 2015 2:48 AM GMT
    I made muscle-ups my goal last year but failed miserably. I was trying to do them on the rings though. You really have to get your dips and kipping pull-ups down before even attempting them though. This is a very easy movement to tear your shoulder on so be careful! The reason I never got there is because I kept injuring myself. icon_redface.gif
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    Oct 17, 2015 5:58 PM GMT
    Radd saidI made muscle-ups my goal last year but failed miserably. I was trying to do them on the rings though. You really have to get your dips and kipping pull-ups down before even attempting them though. This is a very easy movement to tear your shoulder on so be careful! The reason I never got there is because I kept injuring myself. icon_redface.gif


    I will thanks for the warning. I plan to do exactly that. I'm trying to figure out a safe way to do dips at home, other than "seated" or using a bench.
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    Oct 17, 2015 9:49 PM GMT
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    Radd saidI made muscle-ups my goal last year but failed miserably. I was trying to do them on the rings though. You really have to get your dips and kipping pull-ups down before even attempting them though. This is a very easy movement to tear your shoulder on so be careful! The reason I never got there is because I kept injuring myself. icon_redface.gif


    I will thanks for the warning. I plan to do exactly that. I'm trying to figure out a safe way to do dips at home, other than "seated" or using a bench.




    Question: How many strict dips can you do at the present moment?
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    Oct 19, 2015 12:34 AM GMT
    Radd said
    ShiftyJK08 said
    Radd saidI made muscle-ups my goal last year but failed miserably. I was trying to do them on the rings though. You really have to get your dips and kipping pull-ups down before even attempting them though. This is a very easy movement to tear your shoulder on so be careful! The reason I never got there is because I kept injuring myself. icon_redface.gif


    I will thanks for the warning. I plan to do exactly that. I'm trying to figure out a safe way to do dips at home, other than "seated" or using a bench.




    Question: How many strict dips can you do at the present moment?


    I'll try to max out and let you know tomorrow. Have always done sets.
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    Oct 19, 2015 11:14 PM GMT
    You might be able to do them between 2 chairs if they're stable. Or you could build something if you're manly enough... *runs*
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    Oct 20, 2015 2:15 AM GMT
    JackBoneTX saidYou might be able to do them between 2 chairs if they're stable. Or you could build something if you're manly enough... *runs*


    I was thinking of buying handles and then using four 5/8" lag bolts to secure them to studs (assuming the frame lined up with the studs) but I've also been contemplating getting a used rack, which would be useful for more stuff.
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    Oct 20, 2015 2:33 AM GMT
    ShiftyJK08 said
    JackBoneTX saidYou might be able to do them between 2 chairs if they're stable. Or you could build something if you're manly enough... *runs*


    I was thinking of buying handles and then using four 5/8" lag bolts to secure them to studs (assuming the frame lined up with the studs) but I've also been contemplating getting a used rack, which would be useful for more stuff.


    I bought this combo pull-up/dip stand last year but it was about 80 bucks on Amazon. It's stable enough for me but after that I joined the gym so it goes somewhat unused now..
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    Oct 20, 2015 2:36 AM GMT
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    ShiftyJK08 said
    JackBoneTX saidYou might be able to do them between 2 chairs if they're stable. Or you could build something if you're manly enough... *runs*


    I was thinking of buying handles and then using four 5/8" lag bolts to secure them to studs (assuming the frame lined up with the studs) but I've also been contemplating getting a used rack, which would be useful for more stuff.


    I bought this combo pull-up/dip stand last year but it was about 80 bucks on Amazon. It's stable enough for me but after that I joined the gym so it goes somewhat unused now..


    Due to our Recent Loss we decided to make Their room into a gym. My hours are so @#*(@#(* that it's hard for me to hit the gym enough, especially in the winter. I want the option to do both.
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    Oct 20, 2015 2:42 AM GMT
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    JackBoneTX said
    ShiftyJK08 said
    JackBoneTX saidYou might be able to do them between 2 chairs if they're stable. Or you could build something if you're manly enough... *runs*


    I was thinking of buying handles and then using four 5/8" lag bolts to secure them to studs (assuming the frame lined up with the studs) but I've also been contemplating getting a used rack, which would be useful for more stuff.


    I bought this combo pull-up/dip stand last year but it was about 80 bucks on Amazon. It's stable enough for me but after that I joined the gym so it goes somewhat unused now..


    Due to our Recent Loss we decided to make Their room into a gym. My hours are so @#*(@#(* that it's hard for me to hit the gym enough, especially in the winter. I want the option to do both.




    Did you ever get your non-assisted dip number? It's good to know a number with no rest.
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    Oct 20, 2015 2:45 AM GMT
    Radd said
    ShiftyJK08 said
    JackBoneTX said
    ShiftyJK08 said
    JackBoneTX saidYou might be able to do them between 2 chairs if they're stable. Or you could build something if you're manly enough... *runs*


    I was thinking of buying handles and then using four 5/8" lag bolts to secure them to studs (assuming the frame lined up with the studs) but I've also been contemplating getting a used rack, which would be useful for more stuff.


    I bought this combo pull-up/dip stand last year but it was about 80 bucks on Amazon. It's stable enough for me but after that I joined the gym so it goes somewhat unused now..


    Due to our Recent Loss we decided to make Their room into a gym. My hours are so @#*(@#(* that it's hard for me to hit the gym enough, especially in the winter. I want the option to do both.




    Did you ever get your non-assisted dip number? It's good to know a number with no rest.


    I did not get to go to the gym today because we ended up having a friend over, so I have to workout here since it's now too late. Let me see if I can rig up a way to do it on the Soloflex (don't laugh... okay go ahead and laugh) without hurting myself and I'll let you know how many I can do in one shot.

    EDIT: Found the parallel grip attachment and knocked out 9. Felt like form was pretty good (wasn't kicking around or anything) but it's been a long time, definitely need to work on it.

    EDIT EDIT: Did 3 more sets of 8 after warming up a bit. LOVING this thanks Radd for giving me the nudge to find that part!
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    Oct 20, 2015 2:24 PM GMT
    Your dips don't need to be strict to get going on muscle-ups. Find a video on kipping dips. String those together with kipping pull-ups and you'll get there.

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    Oct 20, 2015 2:27 PM GMT
    David_Lauderdale saidYour dips don't need to be strict to get going on muscle-ups. Find a video on kipping dips. String those together with kipping pull-ups and you'll get there.



    I have done, thanks. This same dude talks about kipping and someone sent me another really comprehensive tutorial.
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    Oct 20, 2015 10:42 PM GMT
    ShiftyJK08 said
    Radd said
    ShiftyJK08 said
    JackBoneTX said
    ShiftyJK08 said
    JackBoneTX saidYou might be able to do them between 2 chairs if they're stable. Or you could build something if you're manly enough... *runs*


    I was thinking of buying handles and then using four 5/8" lag bolts to secure them to studs (assuming the frame lined up with the studs) but I've also been contemplating getting a used rack, which would be useful for more stuff.


    I bought this combo pull-up/dip stand last year but it was about 80 bucks on Amazon. It's stable enough for me but after that I joined the gym so it goes somewhat unused now..


    Due to our Recent Loss we decided to make Their room into a gym. My hours are so @#*(@#(* that it's hard for me to hit the gym enough, especially in the winter. I want the option to do both.




    Did you ever get your non-assisted dip number? It's good to know a number with no rest.


    I did not get to go to the gym today because we ended up having a friend over, so I have to workout here since it's now too late. Let me see if I can rig up a way to do it on the Soloflex (don't laugh... okay go ahead and laugh) without hurting myself and I'll let you know how many I can do in one shot.

    EDIT: Found the parallel grip attachment and knocked out 9. Felt like form was pretty good (wasn't kicking around or anything) but it's been a long time, definitely need to work on it.

    EDIT EDIT: Did 3 more sets of 8 after warming up a bit. LOVING this thanks Radd for giving me the nudge to find that part!



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    Okay, the reason I asked how many you can do is to know if you needed assistance or not. If you'd like to build up your reps but can only do a few by yourself, you might want to grab yourself a couple of these bands to assist you. If you can do 8 already, I'd go with the smallest band. But only use it after you've exhausted yourself from doing unassisted dips. They can also be used for assisting with pullups and stretching.

    And the guy above who says you don't have to be able to do strict dips to do a muscle up is correct. But.....I'm suggesting this for building strength AND protecting your shoulders. Strict dips and pullups should always be done along with your kipping movements. Strict movements work many stabilizer muscles that kipping ones do not.

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    Oct 20, 2015 10:57 PM GMT
    Okay that all makes sense. I want to be able to do it because I want to be bigger/stronger, not just to say I can, so avoiding injury is key. We have an assisted dip rack at my gym, but the bands look like they'd be handy anyway.

    Thanks!! I will keep you posted.